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Andrasan89 #1 Posted 25 July 2018 - 05:44 PM

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https://thedailyboun...l-premium-tank/

 

walletclosed !

*edit !

 

https://tanks.gg/com...e-7?t=t23e3~t20

 

just look at this turd...:facepalm: BETTER in ANY aspect (except mobility, but just a bit, of course) ! Especially at armor

And of course not announced.

 

So P2W CONTINUES ! No intention to stop or fix this! Confirmed !

go *edit your premiums wg ! This game is doomed


Edited by xxTANK_Uxx, 25 July 2018 - 06:20 PM.
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SovietBias #2 Posted 25 July 2018 - 05:47 PM

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Hellraiser0201 #3 Posted 25 July 2018 - 05:48 PM

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You don't know the secret soft stats yet, so you cant really be sure if it would be OP or not. :trollface:

Andrasan89 #4 Posted 25 July 2018 - 05:49 PM

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View PostHellraiser0201, on 25 July 2018 - 05:48 PM, said:

You don't know the secret soft stats yet, so you cant really be sure if it would be OP or not. :trollface:

 

and what i showed you in TANKS.GG link??

did yo uever checked it?

 

better pen, better reload, WAY better armor, better dispersions, track traverse with average 2 degree worse and speed with 8km/h worse.

So 2 small disadvantages for all those advantages


Edited by Andrasan89, 25 July 2018 - 05:54 PM.


Hellraiser0201 #5 Posted 25 July 2018 - 05:54 PM

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View PostAndrasan89, on 25 July 2018 - 06:49 PM, said:

 

and what i showed you in TANKS.GG link??

did yo uever checked it?

 

TANKS.GG imo doesn't show all the story, the only way to say if a tank needs buff or nerf is to actually play it, but then again some players might perform good with it while others might find playing it uncomfortable.

PS. I never believe stats so much, there is no russian bias in this game :D



Andrasan89 #6 Posted 25 July 2018 - 05:56 PM

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View PostHellraiser0201, on 25 July 2018 - 05:54 PM, said:

 

TANKS.GG imo doesn't show all the story, the only way to say if a tank needs buff or nerf is to actually play it, but then again some players might perform good with it while others might find playing it uncomfortable.

PS. I never believe stats so much, there is no russian bias in this game :D

 

sure...same was with 268-4 right? We had to play it to realise that stats were actually correct and tank OP and broken. Great logic :facepalm:

 

and its not all about that anyway...the main stupidity is that this tank is BETTER than STANDARD COUNTERPART. Wich means P2W ! AGAIN :facepalm:


Edited by Andrasan89, 25 July 2018 - 05:57 PM.


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View PostAndrasan89, on 25 July 2018 - 06:56 PM, said:

 

sure...same was with 268-4 right? We had to play it to realise that stats were actually correct and tank OP and broken. Great logic :facepalm:

 

and its not all about that anyway...the main stupidity is that this tank is BETTER than STANDARD COUNTERPART. Wich means P2W ! AGAIN :facepalm:

 

It was not the same,  268-4 was expected to be OP even before the release while i can't say that for the new Eagle.

I'm just sharing my opinion, don't want to argue with you or anyone else.


Edited by Hellraiser0201, 25 July 2018 - 06:09 PM.


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View PostAndrasan89, on 25 July 2018 - 05:56 PM, said:

and its not all about that anyway...the main stupidity is that this tank is BETTER than STANDARD COUNTERPART. Wich means P2W ! AGAIN :facepalm:

 

Vs the T20? Sure it's better in most aspects. But the little extra dpm and pen is paid for with way worse mobility. Players love the T20 for the speed and agility. Not the gun. But for tier 7 in general? I would not go that far as calling it p2w. Its turret is broken on tank.gg tho. As it claims it has 4-7 layers of 201mm spaced armor. With a total of over 1300mm on the mantle when it was 101mm inc spaced armor the last time. It's lacking on DPM vs most tier 7 meds, its pen is not even the highest. Speed is "meh" at best vs most tier 7 meds.  

 

 

View PostAndrasan89, on 25 July 2018 - 05:56 PM, said:

sure...same was with 268-4 right? We had to play it to realise that stats were actually correct and tank OP and broken. Great logic :facepalm:

 

Or the Foch B ppl did whine was OP on CT and screamed for a nerf. Then after it went live ppl realized it was below "meh" and no one complained about it anymore. 


Edited by Balc0ra, 25 July 2018 - 06:08 PM.


Andrasan89 #9 Posted 25 July 2018 - 06:15 PM

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probably turret is broken on tanks.gg but even with one single layer of 203mm of armor on mantlet is WAY better than T20 + hull WAY better again.

Lets say that can be ok because mobility is worse a bit.

But, after that what are reasons to get better gun too? Better pen, better reload / dpm, better dispersions...? All this with only 8km/h less top speed?

Advantages are just doubled compared with disadvantages.

 

And i never said thats OP or something...268-4 was just example because stats matter.



geoff99 #10 Posted 25 July 2018 - 06:17 PM

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Looks to me as though the speed and acceleration of t20 is far superior, while the dpm and gun handling is worse. It may be a fair trade. We'll have to see when people start playing them. Far too early to start shouting OP imo. 



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View PostAndrasan89, on 25 July 2018 - 05:44 PM, said:

https://thedailyboun...l-premium-tank/

 

walletclosed !

*edit !

 

https://tanks.gg/com...e-7?t=t23e3~t20

 

just look at this turd...:facepalm: BETTER in ANY aspect (except mobility, but just a bit, of course) ! Especially at armor

And of course not announced.

 

So P2W CONTINUES ! No intention to stop or fix this! Confirmed !

go *edit your premiums wg ! This game is doomed

 

The armor model is screwed in tanks.gg. The tank will not have such turret armor. You would have noticed that yourself when you take your time.

 

Also the tank has a very bad mobility. Not just a lower max speed limit and worse traverse speed as you have stated, but also a worse engine in combination with a  higher weight what makes the power/weight ratio worse by a lot. And don't forget the worse ground resistance on all grounds.

 

All I have to say now is:  Take your time before start such threads.

 

 



Hellraiser0201 #12 Posted 25 July 2018 - 06:21 PM

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WG wants to stimulate the customers to buy more premium tanks, that is why they make some of them a bit stronger than STANDARD COUNTERPARTs, this is not any news, many aspects of the game are unfair and it's clear that payers have big advantage over the free to play users same as in real life :)

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You know, it doesn't look that bad tbh. Also not a russian tank.

 

Looking at things it looks decent, but not OP. Note that on the armor turret front, T20 actually  has more turret armor, but less side armor. Also for a prem tank, the shell cost is more expensive, payoff for better gun shells I guess.

Overall it seems to trade mobility for armor & gun.


Edited by UrQuan, 25 July 2018 - 06:26 PM.


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View PostAndrasan89, on 25 July 2018 - 07:15 PM, said:

 

 

And i never said thats OP or something...268-4 was just example because stats matter.

 

Yes, you said it's pay to win which clearly is the same as saying the tank is broken (better than other mediums tier7) and that also means overpowered :P

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Needs a view range buff to fit the current "skaut" meta.

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Looks like a pilot1 a tier lower with some gimped stats slightly. if it keeps the 200mm mantle im calling powercreep, apart from that it's not hard to powercreep tier 7 meds as most of them suck badly.

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View PostHellraiser0201, on 25 July 2018 - 06:43 PM, said:

 

Yes, you said it's pay to win which clearly is the same as saying the tank is broken (better than other mediums tier7) and that also means overpowered :P

 

OP and p2w is clearly not the same ... just look up what these things stand for

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View PostAndrasan89, on 25 July 2018 - 06:44 PM, said:

go *edit your premiums wg ! This game is doomed

 

Feel free to leave today....



Enforcer1975 #19 Posted 25 July 2018 - 08:23 PM

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The base tank is a Pershit....so it can't be that good or does the KR or Pilot stand out in any way? 

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View PostEnforcer1975, on 25 July 2018 - 08:23 PM, said:

The base tank is a Pershit....so it can't be that good or does the KR or Pilot stand out in any way? 

 

Well, in this case it is a Pershing at T7... No fun for T5 and also not much for T6 tanks. 




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