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axell92108 #1 Posted 27 July 2018 - 04:40 PM

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I can't believe how common steamrolls on EU are compared to RU. 

 

I normally don't use XVM in-game because it just makes me angry, but I ran it for 75 battles on both EU and RU accounts, across tiers 4-10.

 

This is what I noticed:

1. RU server generally has less wn8 than EU server (majority are orange in tiers 4-6, and yellow in 7-8, green 9-10)

2. EU server has less orange and yellow players, but way more reds

3. red players on RU play better than orange players on EU (map positioning, not camping too much, doing some spotting, pushing a flank, etc)

4. way less steamrolls across tiers 4-8 on RU, once in ten battles, sometimes even more than ten.

5. less yolo idiots on RU

6. EU has more aggressive top tiers (especially tier 8, where you see Ranked/personal mission and other badge tryhards way more often than on RU) 

7. EU has more wallet warriors (despite RU getting E25's, Defenders and other broken tanks on sale more often)

8. RU players are generally less toxic (you rarely see them insult each other in chat)

 

Why are these differences so noticeable? Are there more kids on the EU server? Are RU players simply more motivated and engaged in battles? Are tanks just a big part of their culture? Wish EU was as enjoyable to play, sadly it isn't

 

To sum up, RU is a far nicer server to play on. Too bad the RU client and their language is so annoying/hard to look at (and that is coming from someone who is slavic too, they have far too many squiggles and weird words)


Edited by axell92108, 27 July 2018 - 04:41 PM.


CremeFraiche #2 Posted 27 July 2018 - 04:43 PM

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Language.

arthurwellsley #3 Posted 27 July 2018 - 04:55 PM

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Interesting comments. I have played on NA and EU but not on RU. However I do play on CT quite frequently and the majority of players on CT are Russian (you see RU beside their names). I cannot read Cycrillic and so have no idea what they are saying. You can however sometimes see what they think and how good their grasp on English is by typing in a pre-prepared phrase. My current favourite is "That Mr Putin seems an awfully nice little chap". XVM does not work on the CT.

 

Having played on the CT for years the real difference that I notice is that (at least on CT) the RU players yolo in to close combat much more than the EU and NA players, almost irrespective of what tank they are actually playing.



Homer_J #4 Posted 27 July 2018 - 04:58 PM

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View Postaxell92108, on 27 July 2018 - 04:40 PM, said:

 

This is what I noticed:

 

Do you have some figures for this or is it just feels?  Because on the EU forum we don't trust feels, we like facts and figures.

Enforcer1975 #5 Posted 27 July 2018 - 05:05 PM

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  1.  Maybe most likely because there are many rerolls in EU
  2. The differnce in yellow and orange isn't that much but EU really has more bots
  3. If they knew what they were doing they wouldn't be red....?
  4. Less bots on RU
  5. Less bots on RU
  6. Can't really tell
  7. ...sauce...?
  8. Are you 100% sure? They seem to be toxic enough against non RU players on the test server...

Edited by Enforcer1975, 27 July 2018 - 05:09 PM.


the_nebuchadnezzar #6 Posted 27 July 2018 - 06:01 PM

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View Postaxell92108, on 27 July 2018 - 03:40 PM, said:

8. RU players are generally less toxic (you rarely see them insult each other in chat)

 

It`s normal since they are all russians. On the EU servers you have players from +30 countries. Some don`t like their neighbors, some don`t like people form Eastern Europe, some don`t like HUN/CZ/SK, some thinks their country is better, prettier, smarter than the rest, Ex Yugoslavian countries can`t stand each other, UK players think they are special cause they have a special „finger“... plus the „siemka syndrome“. It`s easy to understand why the chat on EU is so toxic. But, still, I love it just the way it is. Especially when you get to troll some of the thin skin kids...   

Edited by the_nebuchadnezzar, 27 July 2018 - 06:01 PM.


8126Jakobsson #7 Posted 27 July 2018 - 06:06 PM

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View Postaxell92108, on 27 July 2018 - 04:40 PM, said:

5. less yolo idiots on RU

6. EU has more aggressive top tiers (especially tier 8, where you see Ranked/personal mission and other badge tryhards way more often than on RU) 

 

I have not played on RU but these two contradicts all I've read about it. It has always been said that RU is the more aggressive/yolo of the two. By far, even. 



TungstenHitman #8 Posted 27 July 2018 - 06:56 PM

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Equally useless I'd imagine... same as any server anywhere.

kaneloon #9 Posted 27 July 2018 - 07:12 PM

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We could assume that the level of RU may be higher, then red there are orange here in EU ?

 

But having practiced CT I wasn't awed by their level.



Bordhaw #10 Posted 27 July 2018 - 07:13 PM

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EU

 

RU


Edited by Bordhaw, 27 July 2018 - 07:17 PM.


Jigabachi #11 Posted 27 July 2018 - 07:17 PM

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What about this:
You play 10 matches on the EU and 10 matches on the RU server. And while doing that you take screenshots from the team lists. Then you censor all the names and everything that could give away which server it is. Then you link both sets of screenshots here and let people guess which one is which server.

IZMIR_METRO #12 Posted 28 July 2018 - 11:57 AM

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Great read OP. I agree with you. EU players are generally more reckless, although RU players are more calm they don't camp but intervene to situation of a teammate if needed.

Cuck0osNest #13 Posted 28 July 2018 - 11:16 PM

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Low skill and comfort seeking has no nation. As a 9 RR wielder, you just can start using it as skill evaluation, the site is yet in progress though.

Edited by Cuck0osNest, 28 July 2018 - 11:17 PM.


Baldrickk #14 Posted 29 July 2018 - 09:15 AM

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View PostHomer_J, on 27 July 2018 - 04:58 PM, said:

 

Do you have some figures for this or is it just feels?  Because on the EU forum we don't trust feels, we like facts and figures.

 

EU:

Posted Image RU:

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NA for good measure:

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Left is global,  right is recent (and so shows realistic distribution of what you will meet in battle)

 

EU and NA active curves are practically identical.  RU differs.

Likely, this is down to a cultural difference in how they approach the game. 

 

Remember that WN8 isn't a pure skill rating.

It's a rating of how well you do in three environment you happen to be in,  so we can't make direct comparisons between WN8 scores.

 

Purely from test server observation and 3rd party accounts,  the RU playstyle tends to be more... aggressive on both sides with both teams rushing in on both sides. 

I would expect that a "just shoot them in the face" mentality would result in a more balanced result distribution across players.

On the other hand, we supposedly pkay a bit more tactically here in the EU (and NA) and poor players can't just follow and melee, instead they get wiped out when they push somewhere they shouldn't or overwhelmed when they haven't been pushing when they should.


Edited by Baldrickk, 29 July 2018 - 09:17 AM.


vixu #15 Posted 29 July 2018 - 12:12 PM

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View Postaxell92108, on 27 July 2018 - 04:40 PM, said:

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To sum up, RU is a far nicer server to play on. Too bad the RU client and their language is so annoying/hard to look at (and that is coming from someone who is slavic too, they have far too many squiggles and weird words)

 

They say, you need to know only about 10 words in Russian to be able to be a part of the drunken party in there :D, and nobody will notice that you are not a native.

 

But, yes, Russian servers are a bit less toxic. 

 

 



8126Jakobsson #16 Posted 29 July 2018 - 12:23 PM

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That Baldrickk fellow has got a pretty good knob on top of his meatsuit, I say. 

Jigabachi #17 Posted 29 July 2018 - 12:49 PM

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Is there also a statistic on the played tanks/nations for each server? Because when the Russians play more Russian tanks... :hiding:

unrealname #18 Posted 29 July 2018 - 12:55 PM

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from what i have seen atm EU plays much more aggressive at high tiers than on RU, it used to be other way around. Steam-rolls occur so often because one team is clueless of how to position themselves on the map and other team goes full ham on one flank, while other team camps some choke point against few enemy tanks. It happens so often that i just dont get it any more, how can so many players do the same mistakes over and over again. going to positions which are useless in most cases in high numbers cant reduce the number of steam-rolls. If half of the team stays out of the fight for first 3-5 minutes, then its simply no wonder why there are so many one sided battles, even when everyone can see that one flank is falling, instead of pushing the other flank, there is no action taken, until its way too late, so i guess, biggest issue is ridiculously poor map awareness from large part of playerbase, by the time they realise, that they should do something, battle has been lost like 2 minutes ago.  

Homer_J #19 Posted 29 July 2018 - 03:58 PM

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View PostBaldrickk, on 29 July 2018 - 09:15 AM, said:

 

 

EU and NA active curves are practically identical.  RU differs.

 

Now that's more like it.

 

One other thing I'm getting from those charts is.  The bar for super unicum needs raising a bit, there's a lot more there than there should be.



LordMuffin #20 Posted 29 July 2018 - 04:17 PM

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For the toxicity stuff my guess is.
I have met many people, both in my work as a teacher and otherwise, who seem to think that everything that isn't deemed illegal and thus punishable is perfectly OK.

In WoT, crapbehaviour is not punished, nor is TK in any meaningful way, nor deserting or staying afk etc.

And thus, all these behaviours are deemed OK since you don't get punished for them.




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