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jabster #1 Posted 27 July 2018 - 04:45 PM

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So then, so then. There was a thread this morning claiming that Circon said WG admitted, at Tankfest, that the mechanism for trying to ensure players didn’t have too many bottom tier games was never included. There were also claims that Circon said this was just a rumour.

 

Anyone know which version is true?



vasilinhorulezz #2 Posted 27 July 2018 - 04:50 PM

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https://www.youtube....cUcmG8arwg&t=3s

 

I'm not sure off the specific minute, but he talks about that in the video.


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View Postvasilinhorulezz, on 27 July 2018 - 03:50 PM, said:

https://www.youtube....cUcmG8arwg&t=3s

 

I'm not sure off the specific minute, but he talks about that in the video.

 

And what does he say to save me and others watching the whole thing?

Homer_J #4 Posted 27 July 2018 - 04:55 PM

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I don't think it actually matters because WG staff, even Devs have so often given out information which is incorrect.

 

So now you have an unreliable 2nd hand account of unreliable info.



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I think MarkGFL also talks about it in his latest video. But, again, mentioning it as only a rumor.

Personally, I don't think WG would miss such a critical line of code, or, if they missed it, neglect to correct it with some sort of micropatch. I guess we'll have to wait and see what the announced changes to the MM will be and how impactful they are, but tbh I'm rather optimistic it will be for the better.



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Ugh, it's just a rumour. He said it was a rumour. Why make such a big drama about it ffs?

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View PostHomer_J, on 27 July 2018 - 03:55 PM, said:

I don't think it actually matters because WG staff, even Devs have so often given out information which is incorrect.

 

So now you have an unreliable 2nd hand account of unreliable info.

 

It’d be nice if someone from WG could actually clarify the situation though?
 

View PostKeyanu, on 27 July 2018 - 03:55 PM, said:

Ugh, it's just a rumour. He said it was a rumour. Why make such a big drama about it ffs?

 

And do you have a link to what he actually said?
 

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View Postmjs_89, on 27 July 2018 - 03:55 PM, said:

Personally, I don't think WG would miss such a critical line of code, 

Have you seen the physics?



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View Postjabster, on 27 July 2018 - 04:54 PM, said:

 

And what does he say to save me and others watching the whole thing?

 

He says that they heard from the tankfest people, that they never implemented the system that tracks how often you get top/mid/bottom tier matches.

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View Postjabster, on 27 July 2018 - 03:57 PM, said:

 

And do you have a link to what he actually said?

 

Try the YouTube video. And no, I'm not pinpoining the minute for you.

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View Postvasilinhorulezz, on 27 July 2018 - 04:03 PM, said:

 

He says that they heard from the tankfest people, that they never implemented the system that tracks how often you get top/mid/bottom tier matches.

 

And have you got a link to where he said that as there seems to be some conflicting information about what he actually said. Obviously it’d be nice if WG said what the situation was so this is second best.
 

View PostKeyanu, on 27 July 2018 - 04:05 PM, said:

 

Try the YouTube video. And no, I'm not pinpoining the minute for you.

 

So why even bother commenting then?


 

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View Postjabster, on 27 July 2018 - 04:07 PM, said:

 

So why even bother commenting then?

 

Just aghast that you'd make such a big drama out of this. Seriously.

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View Postjabster, on 27 July 2018 - 05:06 PM, said:

 

And have you got a link to where he said that as there seems to be some conflicting information about what he actually said. Obviously it’d be nice if WG said what the situation was so this is second best.

 

https://youtu.be/acUcmG8arwg?t=279

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View Postmjs_89, on 27 July 2018 - 04:55 PM, said:

 

Personally, I don't think WG would miss such a critical line of code,

 

Do you think they would forget that they decided not to award extra credits for shooting higher tiers then tell us that they had included it until we pointed out that it wasn't happening in game?

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View Postvasilinhorulezz, on 27 July 2018 - 04:50 PM, said:

https://www.youtube....cUcmG8arwg&t=3s

 

I'm not sure off the specific minute, but he talks about that in the video.

 

04.45s

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View Postvasilinhorulezz, on 27 July 2018 - 04:08 PM, said:

 

I got to the point of him saying I wasn’t at Tankfest but that’s what I heard. A reply from WG maybe?



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View PostHomer_J, on 27 July 2018 - 05:09 PM, said:

 

Do you think they would forget that they decided not to award extra credits for shooting higher tiers then tell us that they had included it until we pointed out that it wasn't happening in game?

 

I wasn't aware they did that. Was that more than a year ago? (startet august 2017, maybe before my time?)

If so, I probably trusted WG too much after all...



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View Postmjs_89, on 27 July 2018 - 04:12 PM, said:

 

I wasn't aware they did that. Was that more than a year ago? (startet august 2017, maybe before my time?)

If so, I probably trusted WG too much after all...

 

Much before that.

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View Postjabster, on 27 July 2018 - 05:11 PM, said:

 

I got to the point of him saying I wasn’t at Tankfest but that’s what I heard. A reply from WG maybe?

 

Nothing from WG except the announcement that said "In its current state, the matchmaker often fails to ensure proper rotation between the top/middle/bottom of the list."

https://worldoftanks...chmaking-fixes/



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View Postjabster, on 27 July 2018 - 03:57 PM, said:

 

It’d be nice if someone from WG could actually clarify the situation though?

 

Why on earth would you need confirmation? Surely, you must have noticed it for yourself anyway unless you are in the tin foil brigade believing the MM is selective? My record is 39 games in a row without being top tier (though a more normal long run without top tier is about 10 or 12). Anything balancing top/mid/bottom wouldn't have allowed that.

 

As for them adjusting it the maths is not on their side. 20% of folks in 3/5/7 top, 33% for 5/10 split. Their only hope is 15 in one tier. While I welcome that as something that needs to happen an awful lot more often than it does now if it happens always the game would be slightly duller  - like play the same maps all the time is duller....... 


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