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Mulaigalo #1 Posted 28 July 2018 - 09:55 AM

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I came back to this game, playing on-off ever since 1.0 came out, but premium ammo is a huge concern for me. What's the situation with it? Still P2W?

Enforcer1975 #2 Posted 28 July 2018 - 10:01 AM

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I don't know if you can call it on/off over 3 years with your battlecount....

 

Premium ammo is the last thing you should worry about. Get back into the game first. 

 

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Mulaigalo #3 Posted 28 July 2018 - 10:03 AM

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View PostEnforcer1975, on 28 July 2018 - 10:01 AM, said:

I don't know if you can call it on/off over 3 years with your battlecount....

 

Premium ammo is the last thing you should worry about. Get back into the game first. 

 

I admit, I've been constantly uninstalling and reinstalling, but I kept uninstalling because I was frustrated with the amount of FPS I was getting. Now since I solved that problem, I decided to play a bit more. But from all the things I've heard, people seem to make a big deal about premium ammo, so I don't really know :/ If it helps, I like low tiers.

Enforcer1975 #4 Posted 28 July 2018 - 10:06 AM

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View PostMulaigalo, on 28 July 2018 - 10:03 AM, said:

 

I admit, I've been constantly uninstalling and reinstalling, but I kept uninstalling because I was frustrated with the amount of FPS I was getting. Now since I solved that problem, I decided to play a bit more. But from all the things I've heard, people seem to make a big deal about premium ammo, so I don't really know :/ If it helps, I like low tiers.

 

Low to mid tiers it isn't a problem. Ofc you still encounter the premium spamming tryhard / reroll but that's rare. I have been playing quite a few games in tier 5-6 lately because i'm grinding some tanks. It's a lot worse in high tiers from tier 8 and above, especially the tryhards in tier 10. 

Mulaigalo #5 Posted 28 July 2018 - 10:08 AM

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Ah, so the gold ammo problem isn't that bad outside of tier 8 and above? That relieves me.

Enforcer1975 #6 Posted 28 July 2018 - 10:12 AM

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The thing is the game has changed so much lately that in your case it's better to learn everything from scratch instead of worrying about premium ammo which btw isn't available for gold anymore. Just take your time and don't rush. Another player with a low battlecount realized that rushing to tier 10 isn't the goal. 

http://forum.worldof...o-higher-tiers/


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Ranked started on Thursday, I said to myself there won't be discount on TX so I bought my first TX. Well planned WG.

Enforcer1975 #8 Posted 28 July 2018 - 11:03 AM

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View PostMannanan, on 28 July 2018 - 10:56 AM, said:

Ranked started on Thursday, I said to myself there won't be discount on TX so I bought my first TX. Well planned WG.

 

Hmmmm....wrong thread? 

Mulaigalo #9 Posted 28 July 2018 - 11:13 AM

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View PostEnforcer1975, on 28 July 2018 - 10:12 AM, said:

The thing is the game has changed so much lately that in your case it's better to learn everything from scratch instead of worrying about premium ammo which btw isn't available for gold anymore. Just take your time and don't rush. Another player with a low battlecount realized that rushing to tier 10 isn't the goal. 

http://forum.worldof...o-higher-tiers/

 

Yep, I agree. The game is entirely different since the last time I saw it! And I'm not planning to rush at all, as it'll just kill the fun. On another note.. Are there any good tanks for people like me? I already have the KV-1 and T-34. Also, what about mods? What mods should I use to overall make the experience better? XVM doesn't sound like a thing I really care about, since I don't care about stats.

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OIias_of_Sunhillow #10 Posted 28 July 2018 - 11:47 AM

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I must be one of the few people that care not one jot what people shoot me with, but that they are shooting at me.

 

I never look to see what my opponent is hitting me with. That's generally his concern.

I just know I have to get out of the way of any shots coming my way. Or angle better.



NUKLEAR_SLUG #11 Posted 28 July 2018 - 11:48 AM

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XVM is useful for some in garage quality of life mods that come with it. You can just ignore the stats side if you're not interested.

Gold ammo isn't a big issue. If you have no armour then they were going to pen you anyway and if you have armour then they may well have needed it to pen you.

Either way the best way to not get penned by gold is aim not to get shot in the first place.

Enforcer1975 #12 Posted 28 July 2018 - 11:49 AM

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View PostMulaigalo, on 28 July 2018 - 11:13 AM, said:

 

Yep, I agree. The game is entirely different since the last time I saw it! And I'm not planning to rush at all, as it'll just kill the fun. On another note.. Are there any good tanks for people like me? I already have the KV-1 and T-34. Also, what about mods? What mods should I use to overall make the experience better? XVM doesn't sound like a thing I really care about, since I don't care about stats.

 

I can't really tell you what tanks you should get since you don't really have played that many games yet. But in general everybody who is new is told to check out the line leading to the IS-3 first ( if you ever want to reach tier 8 that is ). Try out a few nations, lines and types first then decide if you want to specialize in any of them. That's why i did...did the mistake of going the US TD line first then hit a wall...went russian heavies...hit a wall....went mediums....hit a wall...went LTs...etc...

I am using Aslain's modpack. It has a lot of mods to choose from but i mainly use it for garage mods, some in-game sounds and a different crosshair...stuff like that. Everything else just adds too much clutter and distracts from the game. 

 



Derethim #13 Posted 28 July 2018 - 12:14 PM

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I'd say premium ammo stopped becoming a "problem" and is now being called a feature by everyone.

Altough it's easier to get credits now and if you can do well without premium ammo, you'll gain a lot of credits even w/o a premium tank. Just play a tier 5 with cheap ammo and repair costs and do well. Tier 6 is not recommended, because of the powercrept premium tanks on tier VIII and bad mm.



Andrasan89 #14 Posted 28 July 2018 - 12:47 PM

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View PostDerethim, on 28 July 2018 - 12:14 PM, said:

I'd say premium ammo stopped becoming a "problem" and is now being called a feature by everyone.

Altough it's easier to get credits now and if you can do well without premium ammo, you'll gain a lot of credits even w/o a premium tank. Just play a tier 5 with cheap ammo and repair costs and do well. Tier 6 is not recommended, because of the powercrept premium tanks on tier VIII and bad mm.

 

its not only about costs (p2w) its about balance. It ruins armor, make weakpoints useless (not too many players  bother to aim them anymore), its simply worst example of balance in WOT because have no drawbacks to its huge pen advantage, and even make some tank classes in game useless (TDs), yes...TDs..because those tanks are suposed to perform better pen characteristics but guess what...ANY tank can perform this when they press 2.

 

Anyway..since WG announced a rebalance of this stupid p2w factor and started by changing its purchase coins...hope still exist...YET...



ihateclowns #15 Posted 28 July 2018 - 12:49 PM

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There is only one type of shell being fired in the game any more and its gold. Nobody uses regular ammo unless its low tiers. And armour is almost useless in all tanks except for a small few super heavys. And when a tank does start to bounce gold shells (obj 268v4) then the entire wot community form crybaby alliance and get it nerfed to death so it has crappy armour like every other tank.

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AliceUnchained #16 Posted 28 July 2018 - 01:01 PM

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View PostMulaigalo, on 28 July 2018 - 09:55 AM, said:

Still P2W?

 

Nope. It was made available for credits somewhere in 2012.



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View PostAndrasan89, on 28 July 2018 - 12:47 PM, said:

 

its not only about costs (p2w) its about balance. It ruins armor, make weakpoints useless (not too many players  bother to aim them anymore), its simply worst example of balance in WOT because have no drawbacks to its huge pen advantage, and even make some tank classes in game useless (TDs), yes...TDs..because those tanks are suposed to perform better pen characteristics but guess what...ANY tank can perform this when they press 2.

 

Anyway..since WG announced a rebalance of this stupid p2w factor and started by changing its purchase coins...hope still exist...YET...

 

With the new tanks it actually shows SOME weakspots, with the old ones it ruins the armor.

I agree it's horrible balance, but no matter how people complained for the years the balance was going to shite, they were always shut down by people, that can afford premium tanks and premium account and spam gold.

Wargaming will never adress this, as it boosts their premium account/premium tank sales (even though I think it's a small boost) and they are a COMPANY. They exist to makes money.

The way they do it is EA-level dirty, but what can you do? People will buy literally anything they dish out.

 

The game is still fun though. Less fun than before premium ammo was for credits, but still fun. I think mm and light tank balance is a bigger problem they actually have a reason to adress.



wEight_Tanker #18 Posted 28 July 2018 - 04:31 PM

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Me IS-3 with regular AP rolling 407 on an IS-7 lower plate while he autoaim rolls 440 on me with APCR. Go figure. (I don't have the replay).




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