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ccoolliinn_1 #1 Posted 29 July 2018 - 10:53 AM

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Playing Panther and VK 30 02D fully researched and grinding Panther 2 and Indien PZ. Is it worth moving up to tier 8 with these two tanks. I have moved up on other lines but are these two worth it with tier 10. I play for fun so ratings mean nothing to me.

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If you enjoy those two then keep them. Whether or not you'll like the higher tiers you won't know until you try them but you can always wait for the test server to be active and try out the later tiers to see if they are something you like.

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View Postccoolliinn_1, on 29 July 2018 - 10:53 AM, said:

 I play for fun so ratings mean nothing to me.

 

i wonder why do you have the urge to say that then ? .. anyway... you right, the guys with the good stats are forced to play this game ... how could anybody assume that they also play for fun ? ...poor ppl

unrealname #4 Posted 29 July 2018 - 11:03 AM

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prbably not much worth going up the leopard tree, but as the panther 2 has received nice top gun its probably worth going up the tech tree. If panther 2 still had the L71 as the top gun, i would definitely not  consider putting myself through that again + e50 didnt have any other options before as well, L71 at tier 9 was fun. so yes, nowadays its worth going up the tree, even if you dont want to spend free xp.

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View PostBonjiOrongji, on 29 July 2018 - 11:01 AM, said:

 

i wonder why do you have the urge to say that then ? .. anyway... you right, the guys with the good stats are forced to play this game ... how could anybody assume that they also play for fun ? ...poor ppl

 

 Maybe he just wants to know if the tier 8 are competive? Sometimes when people ask a question they simply want to know the answer to that question. Funny that!

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View Postccoolliinn_1, on 29 July 2018 - 09:53 AM, said:

Playing Panther and VK 30 02D fully researched and grinding Panther 2 and Indien PZ. Is it worth moving up to tier 8 with these two tanks. I have moved up on other lines but are these two worth it with tier 10. I play for fun so ratings mean nothing to me.

 

View PostBonjiOrongji, on 29 July 2018 - 10:01 AM, said:

 

i wonder why do you have the urge to say that then ? .. anyway... you right, the guys with the good stats are forced to play this game ... how could anybody assume that they also play for fun ? ...poor ppl

 

View PostNUKLEAR_SLUG, on 29 July 2018 - 10:06 AM, said:

 

 Maybe he just wants to know if the tier 8 are competive? Sometimes when people ask a question they simply want to know the answer to that question. Funny that!

 

I have fun by causing as much damage to enemy tanks as I can. I like destroying them, and after doing all that- winning battles. OP does not win battles, but apparently has fun nonetheless. While playing alongside him might not be fun for his allies, I am sure his enemies love him. Anyway..

 

I didn't like the Panther much. 75mm at tier VII was no joy for me. I do like the Panther II, though. I am not brilliant in it in stats terms (not bothering to go and check) but I've consistently maintained a positive WR in it. I believe that the Indien isn't well thought of.



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View PostNUKLEAR_SLUG, on 29 July 2018 - 11:06 AM, said:

 

 Maybe he just wants to know if the tier 8 are competive? Sometimes when people ask a question they simply want to know the answer to that question. Funny that!

 

why not just ask the question ? funny that!

ccoolliinn_1 #8 Posted 29 July 2018 - 11:15 AM

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View PostNUKLEAR_SLUG, on 29 July 2018 - 11:06 AM, said:

 

 Maybe he just wants to know if the tier 8 are competive? Sometimes when people ask a question they simply want to know the answer to that question. Funny that!

 

I have other tanks to tier 10 but just looking at these two. The Panther 2 only looks good once you get the top gun, the Indien looks like paper 

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View Postccoolliinn_1, on 29 July 2018 - 10:53 AM, said:

Playing Panther and VK 30 02D fully researched and grinding Panther 2 and Indien PZ. Is it worth moving up to tier 8 with these two tanks. I have moved up on other lines but are these two worth it with tier 10. I play for fun so ratings mean nothing to me.

 

I don't know about these tanks specifically, but what I do when I doubt if the next tank is worth it might be an option for you as well:

Buy next tank, wait for a discount if you're not in a hurry.

Move crew but don't retrain. If its the same class a few 90% crew battles wont hurt.

Use movable equipment or equipment bought on discount.

Try the tank for a couple of battles. If you dont like it, sell it. If you sell including equipment you get the credits back and only lost about 20% (if bought 30% off) of the tank credit value.

if you like, retrain crew.

Only problem with this method is that you play a stock tank, not the full potential.

otherwise try testserver, but getting battles beliw tier 10 can be difficult.

 

 



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View Postccoolliinn_1, on 29 July 2018 - 12:15 PM, said:

 

I have other tanks to tier 10 but just looking at these two. The Panther 2 only looks good once you get the top gun, the Indien looks like paper 

 

i grinded indien and panther 2 at the same time, while continued grinding towards e50m, i stopped at indien back in the days, because, back then leo pta was total piece of crap, so i ditched the leopard 1 grind, but if we compare panther 2 and indien pz, imo indien is still a better tank, nowadays the gun might be bad on indien and good on panther 2, but armorwise indien is 100% better, panther 2 is total paper target for everyone. nonetheless i did perform waaaay better in indien than i did in panther 2, back then. In panther 2 i had 1,4k dpg and 52,7% wr while in indien i had 1,8k dpg and freakin 70% wr. I got the leo pta recently, by dumping free xp on what was left on indien pz to grind out, so i cant tell how it feels in these days, but i have no doubt that in general its still a better tank than panther 2. On top of that you dont have crappy stock grind with indien pz.

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well... I dont remember if I have free-exped P2 only or also indPZ. 

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View PostgunslingerXXX, on 29 July 2018 - 10:25 AM, said:

 

I don't know about these tanks specifically, but what I do when I doubt if the next tank is worth it might be an option for you as well:

Buy next tank, wait for a discount if you're not in a hurry.

Move crew but don't retrain. If its the same class a few 90% crew battles wont hurt.

Use movable equipment or equipment bought on discount.

Try the tank for a couple of battles. If you dont like it, sell it. If you sell including equipment you get the credits back and only lost about 20% (if bought 30% off) of the tank credit value.

if you like, retrain crew.

Only problem with this method is that you play a stock tank, not the full potential.

otherwise try testserver, but getting battles beliw tier 10 can be difficult.

 

 

 

onother tip, atleast for t6+ tanks use the testserver when its up and try it without any repercussion...

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View PostgunslingerXXX, on 29 July 2018 - 11:25 AM, said:

 

I don't know about these tanks specifically, but what I do when I doubt if the next tank is worth it might be an option for you as well:

Buy next tank, wait for a discount if you're not in a hurry.

Move crew but don't retrain. If its the same class a few 90% crew battles wont hurt.

Use movable equipment or equipment bought on discount.

Try the tank for a couple of battles. If you dont like it, sell it. If you sell including equipment you get the credits back and only lost about 20% (if bought 30% off) of the tank credit value.

if you like, retrain crew.

Only problem with this method is that you play a stock tank, not the full potential.

otherwise try testserver, but getting battles beliw tier 10 can be difficult.

 

 

 

Test server is good but its all tier 10 and gold. the buy and try but don't retrain sounds good to me. I'm enjoying the Tiger 2 and have ace tanker with only 60 battles [that's good for me], moving on from here is easy as the E75 looks better in all departments.

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View PostBonjiOrongji, on 29 July 2018 - 11:13 AM, said:

 

why not just ask the question ? funny that!

 

 He did ask. Maybe try reading the OP?

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View Postccoolliinn_1, on 29 July 2018 - 12:42 PM, said:

 

Test server is good but its all tier 10 and gold. the buy and try but don't retrain sounds good to me. I'm enjoying the Tiger 2 and have ace tanker with only 60 battles [that's good for me], moving on from here is easy as the E75 looks better in all departments.

 

unfortunately E-75 is not even close to being as good as it used to be, it was considered to be best tier 9 HT alongside with ST1, nowadays both of the are slugs that get rekt by new tanks added to the game and older ones that got buffed. E-75 was my first tier 9 tank in wot and even as red bot i enjoyed it and managed to sustain high wr for a crap player, i tried to play it this year, its nothing like it was back in the day.

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View Postunrealname, on 29 July 2018 - 12:00 PM, said:

 

unfortunately E-75 is not even close to being as good as it used to be, it was considered to be best tier 9 HT alongside with ST1, nowadays both of the are slugs that get rekt by new tanks added to the game and older ones that got buffed. E-75 was my first tier 9 tank in wot and even as red bot i enjoyed it and managed to sustain high wr for a crap player, i tried to play it this year, its nothing like it was back in the day.

 

This is true, my only tier 10 is the IS7 and I struggle but my obj 257 I find good, new tank power creep. I went up the Russian tree first, the German tanks have been refreshing as the shells go where the gun is pointing.

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View Postccoolliinn_1, on 29 July 2018 - 10:53 AM, said:

I play for fun so ratings mean nothing to me.

 

This might sound shocking to you, but ratings have nothing to do with tier you play, you can tryhard at tier 7 as well as at tier 10. Mind boggling, right? Also, every tank has their own expected damage values from which then wn8 numbers are derived.

 

P.S. I also play for fun, it's just that I don't find defeats to be fun.



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View Postcrnakoza, on 29 July 2018 - 12:13 PM, said:

 

This might sound shocking to you, but ratings have nothing to do with tier you play, you can tryhard at tier 7 as well as at tier 10. Mind boggling, right? Also, every tank has their own expected damage values from which then wn8 numbers are derived.

 

P.S. I also play for fun, it's just that I don't find defeats to be fun.

 

I don't mind losing the battle if I've had fun on the way, Tiger 2 top gun and high calibre and we lost but I enjoyed it. Have only one SPG per battle ill be in tank Valhalla 

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View PostNUKLEAR_SLUG, on 29 July 2018 - 11:43 AM, said:

 

 He did ask. Maybe try reading the OP?

 

could help if you do that ...give it try :)

 

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iam a good mood so i try to explain what you fail to understand ... instead of asking just the question he also felt the urgent need to say that he doesnt care about stats ...

 

you see the irony ? claiming you dont care about one thing while telling everybody about it ? ...that he already added a excuse doesnt rly help


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View PostBonjiOrongji, on 29 July 2018 - 11:01 AM, said:

 

i wonder why do you have the urge to say that then ? .. anyway... you right, the guys with the good stats are forced to play this game ... how could anybody assume that they also play for fun ? ...poor ppl

 

View PostNUKLEAR_SLUG, on 29 July 2018 - 11:06 AM, said:

 

 Maybe he just wants to know if the tier 8 are competive? Sometimes when people ask a question they simply want to know the answer to that question. Funny that!

 

Saying i play for fun in a game like this is pretty silly imo....you either play to win or don't....and end up with 46% or worse WR. 






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