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Poll: The drastic measure of not purchasing gold ammo and the ongoing evaluation (40 members have cast votes)

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Do you think that the removal of the option to purchase gold ammo with gold led to less gold ammo usage?

  1. Yes (3 votes [7.50%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 7.50%

  2. No (37 votes [92.50%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 92.50%

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Argedeava #1 Posted 01 August 2018 - 10:52 AM

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We all know that since the removal of the option to purchase the gold ammo with gold directly there`s an ongoing evaluation of the impact such major change has on the gold gamebalance and game gold economy.

This is the second thread in which i added a pool to see player oppinion. In the first thread i`m certain a pool would have been premature as the economy balance was still too reactive to the measure and i felt like i have to let thing settle.

In the previous some were talking about the obvious, some about the less obvious. I do remember one oppinion saying; and i quote from memory: that the reason behind the need to evaluate is in fact a legal issue involving the posibility of complaints toward paying for gold ammo and than having it modified.

To what extent this is relevant in a pay//non pay to win customer scenario is too much of debate to be relevant.

What i`d fnd relavand is players oppinion about gold usage after the measure. Hence the pool.


Edited by Argedeava, 01 August 2018 - 11:00 AM.


FizzleMcSnizzle #2 Posted 01 August 2018 - 11:57 AM

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It's "poll" you looser!

Sfinski #3 Posted 01 August 2018 - 12:02 PM

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View PostFizzleMcSnizzle, on 01 August 2018 - 12:57 PM, said:

It's "poll" you looser!

 

Irony. 

Thornvalley #4 Posted 01 August 2018 - 12:03 PM

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View PostFizzleMcSnizzle, on 01 August 2018 - 11:57 AM, said:

It's "poll" you looser!

 

:)

Cobra6 #5 Posted 01 August 2018 - 12:06 PM

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The problem was never the cost of premium ammo or whether it's for gold or not. The problem is the inherent gameplay mechanic that is flawed.

A properly balanced game has no need for premium ammo to begin with so the fact that it's still needed in a lot of engagements should tell you enough.

 

Premium ammo needs to be completely removed from WoT while at the same time all armor values of all tanks should be rebalanced to have weak spots viable for same-tier standard ammo. That is the only long term way to fix this issue, all other options will only impact negatively on gameplay and balancing.

 

Cobra 6



Jigabachi #6 Posted 01 August 2018 - 12:10 PM

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View PostSfinski, on 01 August 2018 - 12:02 PM, said:

Irony. 

That was most definitely meant to be ironic.

 

@ topic: Nothing changed, obviously. And I'd love to have a pool right now.



BravelyRanAway #7 Posted 01 August 2018 - 12:53 PM

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View PostFizzleMcSnizzle, on 01 August 2018 - 10:57 AM, said:

It's "poll" you looser!

 

Did his trousers fall down too?:ohmy:

PlasticArmour #8 Posted 01 August 2018 - 01:32 PM

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View PostFizzleMcSnizzle, on 01 August 2018 - 10:57 AM, said:

It's "poll" you looser!

 

Maybe more fibre in his diet will cure him.

Robbie_T #9 Posted 01 August 2018 - 01:50 PM

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Who buys premium ammo with gold :amazed:

I buy them with credits



Dr_Oolen #10 Posted 01 August 2018 - 01:56 PM

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WG need to collect more data :) And dont forget only 5% of ammo fired is gold, so its pretty low sample size overall - we are probably looking at at least 2 more years of data collection :) I think making any suggestions that there is something wrong with gold ammo would be too rash at this point.

 

Spoiler

 



Andrasan89 #11 Posted 01 August 2018 - 03:56 PM

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this change wasnt made to decrease p2w ammo usage..was made to allow WG to CHANGE IT, "BALANCE IT"...

 

but knowing wg moronic ways to balance anything...im really scared about what will be the result...

:facepalm:



vasilinhorulezz #12 Posted 01 August 2018 - 05:56 PM

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View PostArgedeava, on 01 August 2018 - 10:52 AM, said:

We all know that since the removal of the option to purchase the gold ammo with gold directly there`s an ongoing evaluation of the impact such major change has on the gold gamebalance and game gold economy.

This is the second thread in which i added a pool to see player oppinion. In the first thread i`m certain a pool would have been premature as the economy balance was still too reactive to the measure and i felt like i have to let thing settle.

In the previous some were talking about the obvious, some about the less obvious. I do remember one oppinion saying; and i quote from memory: that the reason behind the need to evaluate is in fact a legal issue involving the posibility of complaints toward paying for gold ammo and than having it modified.

To what extent this is relevant in a pay//non pay to win customer scenario is too much of debate to be relevant.

What i`d fnd relavand is players oppinion about gold usage after the measure. Hence the pool.

 

The point of the gold value removal wasn't to reduce premium ammo usage, but to be able to rework the rounds

without consequences, because they can't nerf a paid product, so if WG wants to rework the ammo they need to make

it available only for in-game currency.



FizzleMcSnizzle #13 Posted 01 August 2018 - 06:09 PM

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I am aware of how "loser" is spelt thanks guys!

Tom_Deekanarry #14 Posted 01 August 2018 - 07:01 PM

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I'm still baffled why using the specialist rounds is such a problem to people, you fire at a target bounce off then change ammo to penetrate, what's the problem?

 

The argument seems to be "I ground a heavy tank therefore I should be impenetrable whilst I go round clubbing everyone else" I mean WTF, you already have masses of HP and more armour and a bigger gun, what the hell do you expect?



Tankyouverymuch2 #15 Posted 01 August 2018 - 07:32 PM

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See, the problem is...

 

NOBODY BOUGHT GOLD AMMO WITH ACTUAL GOLD TO BEGIN WITH



santtis #16 Posted 01 August 2018 - 08:09 PM

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The solution is not easy as removing gold ammo completely.

After that you have to balance every tank in the game. Most of the changes need to happen to guns and armor. Maybe lower HP on some tanks. 

 

I think the game is now balanced around gold ammo. You can see that from the introduction of super heavy tanks like the Japanese and German. I remember when they changed that you could buy gold rounds with credits. It made tanks like the Maus obsolete. Armor had no purpose when you could pen everything with gold. 

 

If you take away the need to balance the tanks you still have to balance the in-game economics. When the game launched they said that the economics would run on people playing on the middle tiers. it worked for a long time as there was an influx of new players. Now there is just a lot of old players and a lot of tier 8 premiums and credit boosters.

 



WindSplitter1 #17 Posted 01 August 2018 - 08:34 PM

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View PostTankyouverymuch2, on 01 August 2018 - 06:32 PM, said:

See, the problem is...

 

NOBODY BOUGHT GOLD AMMO WITH ACTUAL GOLD TO BEGIN WITH

 

The first time I bought gold ammo was with gold. Didn't notice there was a drop down button.

 

Can't complain, though. Got a Radley's. But I've found out Japanese premium AP really sucks.






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