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AXIS_OF_RESISTANCE #1 Posted 02 August 2018 - 05:27 AM

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So the cupola is impenetrable just learned that the hard way:teethhappy:, or is there a way  to pen ,pls share ?

 

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Trostani #2 Posted 02 August 2018 - 05:58 AM

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You need about 350 mm penetration to try and even then it's not guaranteed success.

NUKLEAR_SLUG #3 Posted 02 August 2018 - 06:07 AM

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Lower plate or go home.

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At least it has cupola, not like the few of soviets. With unpenetrable turret.

undutchable80 #5 Posted 02 August 2018 - 06:55 AM

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permatrack and have your teammates with bigger guns kill it...

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View Postundutchable80, on 02 August 2018 - 08:55 AM, said:

permatrack and have your teammates with bigger guns kill it...

 

Until entire plan fails and you all die in cross fire. :trollface:

AXIS_OF_RESISTANCE #7 Posted 02 August 2018 - 07:00 AM

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View Postundutchable80, on 02 August 2018 - 06:55 AM, said:

permatrack and have your teammates with bigger guns kill it...

Thats such a fantasy :teethhappy:it only happens in clan wars , random is 29 vs 1 :popcorn:.

 

 

 



MeNoobTank #8 Posted 02 August 2018 - 07:01 AM

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Why hard way? You could simply use the pen detection crosshair and if the central dot shows red don't even try

Baldrickk #9 Posted 02 August 2018 - 07:01 AM

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Try the live armour view:

Posted Image

It makes it a lot easier to see where you can pen.
https://tanks.gg/tan...cs=is-7&vm=live

Edited by Baldrickk, 02 August 2018 - 07:12 AM.


AXIS_OF_RESISTANCE #10 Posted 02 August 2018 - 07:06 AM

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View PostMeNoobTank, on 02 August 2018 - 07:01 AM, said:

Why hard way? You could simply use the pen detection crosshair and if the central dot shows red don't even try

 

You haven't watched the replay your comment is irrelative i penned one in the cupola others bounced so yeah , ''central dot shows red'' ....:popcorn:

 

 

View PostBaldrickk, on 02 August 2018 - 07:01 AM, said:

Try the live armour view:

https://i.imgur.com/GLyOSTT.jpg[

It makes it a lot easier to see where you can pen.
https://tanks.gg/tan...cs=is-7&vm=live

 

where do you think i got that image from :teethhappy:.
 

Edited by Jahpero, 02 August 2018 - 12:27 PM.
This post has been edited by the moderation team due to red color.


Baldrickk #11 Posted 02 August 2018 - 07:12 AM

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View PostAXIS_OF_RESISTANCE, on 02 August 2018 - 07:11 AM, said:

 

where do you think i got that image from :teethhappy:.

Your pic isn't the live armour view though. 

It's the collision model. 


Edited by Baldrickk, 02 August 2018 - 07:13 AM.


MeNoobTank #12 Posted 02 August 2018 - 07:13 AM

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View PostAXIS_OF_RESISTANCE, on 02 August 2018 - 07:06 AM, said:

 

You haven't watched the replay your comment is irrelative i penned one in the cupola others bounced so yeah , ''central dot shows red'' ....:popcorn:

 

Indeed I did not watched any replay. I am on my iPad. Not home at computer.

 

The thing is, even if the red dot shows red you sometime can pen because the dot only shows your average pen against the target. If you get by RNG a high roll pen then you can penetrate even with red dot. The dot is only relative thing but help the player learn the soft and thick armor of targets. Is a pretty good feature imo.



Baldrickk #13 Posted 02 August 2018 - 07:16 AM

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View PostMeNoobTank, on 02 August 2018 - 07:13 AM, said:

Indeed I did not watched any replay. I am on my iPad. Not home at computer.

 

The thing is, even if the red dot shows red you sometime can pen because the dot only shows your average pen against the target. If you get by RNG a high roll pen then you can penetrate even with red dot. The dot is only relative thing but help the player learn the soft and thick armor of targets. Is a pretty good feature imo.

 Actually, red is 0 chance of pen at that spot. 

It's orange if you can roll high enough to pen. 

 

Nothing stopping your shell hitting a different spot where the armour is slightly thinner due to accuracy RNG though. 



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View Postimendars, on 02 August 2018 - 06:59 AM, said:

 

Until entire plan fails and you all die in cross fire. :trollface:

Been there done that! :D

 

View PostAXIS_OF_RESISTANCE, on 02 August 2018 - 07:00 AM, said:

Thats such a fantasy :teethhappy:it only happens in clan wars , random is 29 vs 1 :popcorn:.

 

Works more often than you'd think. Just need to make sure you are not in a 1 vs 1 situation cuz then its just pointless. ;)



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View Postundutchable80, on 02 August 2018 - 09:18 AM, said:

Been there done that! :D

 

Works more often than you'd think. Just need to make sure you are not in a 1 vs 1 situation cuz then its just pointless. ;)

 

Yea. I'm a noob, but that tank brings a tear in my eye... :}

 

So... the lord of all td have finally found nerf bat nesting place, right? Right?



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View PostAXIS_OF_RESISTANCE, on 02 August 2018 - 06:27 AM, said:

 or is there a way  to pen ,pls share ?

- Get on its side

- Play arty

- Play Type 5



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View Postundutchable80, on 02 August 2018 - 06:55 AM, said:

permatrack and have your teammates with bigger guns kill it...

 

Actually take small and big repair kits now, can't remember an E3 ever catching fire so dont really need the extinguisher.

 

Its one of the truly beautiful moments in WoT when you get tracked, repair, hit opponent med for 700, get tracked, repair again and whomp your opponent for the remainder of their HPs. You can almost feel the opponents shock through the computer screen.



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if you have 330 penetration or higher, you can try and if you don't have any other alternatives to shot... you still have like 40% chance to pen the cupola. 

 

but the E3 have some very tiny areas that some few people exploit...

 

if you check tanks.gg, the mantle of the E3 around the gun have 310/320 mm of protection only... that blueish square around the gun is what i mean

in the visual view it doesn't apear, you need to load the live view,

https://tanks.gg/tan...=live&cl=000001

 

people can also try to exploit with accurate guns the "hole" on the hull deck that is used for the mantle, is rounded shaped... and because of that

gives 2 very tiny areas of 171mm only, but they are really hard to hit from distance, but if someday an E3 somehow face hugh your tank and you have gun depression

thats the spot you need to hit...

 

 

 

 

 



XxKuzkina_MatxX #19 Posted 02 August 2018 - 09:29 AM

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E3 in tier 10 and T95 in tier 9, don't be in front of those hounds in any tank. Looking for frontal weak spots in these two is just asking for 750 alpha in the face.

 

If the driver is stubborn and have some basic knowledge of the game, it can be very bad experience to sit in front of those.

 

Wanna see stubborn? :)

 

http://wotreplays.eu...zkina_matxx-t95



Dava_117 #20 Posted 02 August 2018 - 12:12 PM

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View PostXxKuzkina_MatxX, on 02 August 2018 - 09:29 AM, said:

E3 in tier 10 and T95 in tier 9, don't be in front of those hounds in any tank. Looking for frontal weak spots in these two is just asking for 750 alpha in the face.

 

If the driver is stubborn and have some basic knowledge of the game, it can be very bad experience to sit in front of those.

 

Wanna see stubborn? :)

 

http://wotreplays.eu...zkina_matxx-t95

 

To be fair, T95 should have the cupolas as weackspot. The problem is that WG modelled them so baddly that from most angles you can't pen them. That model shoyld really be reworked with an higher poligonation  of cupolas.

 

On topic, you can shoot HE at the lower part of the cupolas to splash the roof if the lower plate is hidden...

Better than trying the chance with 40% chance to pen...


Edited by Dava_117, 02 August 2018 - 12:12 PM.





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