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Is the T26E5 PATRIOT good?


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Poll: T26E5 PATRIOT Good? (35 members have cast votes)

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  1. Yes (26 votes [74.29%])

    Percentage of vote: 74.29%

  2. No (9 votes [25.71%])

    Percentage of vote: 25.71%

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Ananas2000 #1 Posted 03 August 2018 - 04:47 PM

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Ive heard alot of good new about this tank. Is it something that is worth picking up?

mortalsatsuma #2 Posted 03 August 2018 - 04:55 PM

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Personally i'd say no. It's not the worst of tier 8 vehicles as it has very good standard penetration and it does have some armour although I found it to be incredibly unreliable.  

 

Main reasons it's not worth it is because of the current state of tier 8 MM and 240 alpha feels pretty irrelevant in a game where 440 is fast becoming a common alpha amount. The DPM is ok on paper (fully maxed-out with standard equipment and BIA, gun rammer vents food) it's just over 2.5K but since when has DPM really been a reliable staple in this game?

 

Most of the time you're just going to end up getting hit for almost a 3rd of your HP whilst likely struggling or barely hitting back with 240 alpha. You really can't trade in this thing well at all.  

 

Premium pen is also terrible, only 259 which is barely an improvement over regular. This isn't Russia 300+ mm balanced cHEAT ammo here. You will be pretty much helpless against some tier 10s. 



Steel_Patriot #3 Posted 03 August 2018 - 05:01 PM

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It is a good tank when used properly  and on the right map  + MM, but it isn't an easy mode tank . Good tank for FL too , real fun with all teir 8.

On maps just go with the mediums and not the heavies.

It just isn't worth buying any teir 8 with the broken MM as it is , 3/4 of your games will be V Teir X

 


Edited by Steel_Patriot, 03 August 2018 - 05:18 PM.


Bexleyheath #4 Posted 03 August 2018 - 05:54 PM

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I have the unpatriotic version and it's a fairly decent tank. But it's not really worth it to spend €35 on a tank just to spend every single game getting blown away by T9's and T10's



XxKuzkina_MatxX #5 Posted 03 August 2018 - 06:13 PM

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Short version: no it's not a good tier 8 heavy.

 

Long version:

 

  1. It shoots APCR as a standard which got less normalization than AP that means you'll bounce a lot. APCR shells usually have a good velocity, not in this case! (thx Aikl)
  2. Alpha damage is 240 which is really embarrassing on a tier 8 heavy especially in tier 10 battles where you can tickle your target with that alpha!
  3. It's a hull down tank which should be a good thing but the turret/turret cheeks is much weaker than the standard tech tree T32.


mortalsatsuma #6 Posted 03 August 2018 - 06:19 PM

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I think you need to rephrase the question.

 

"Is the tank good?" = Yes.

 

"Is the tank good in the present state of the game?" = No. If the MM was fixed and you didn't have to spend the vast majority of your games facing tier 9s/10s then yes, it's a good tank but in the current state that the game is in, don't waste your money on any tier 8 as you're basically just paying to get screwed by the matchmaker. 



falcon_96 #7 Posted 03 August 2018 - 07:22 PM

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If you want premium american heavy for crews it is the best option. If you don't care about crews it is still a good moneymaker and an enjoyable tank to play IF you can play DPM oriented tanks.

Edited by falcon_96, 03 August 2018 - 07:23 PM.


Aikl #8 Posted 03 August 2018 - 09:31 PM

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View Postmortalsatsuma, on 03 August 2018 - 03:55 PM, said:

Personally i'd say no. It's not the worst of tier 8 vehicles as it has very good standard penetration and it does have some armour although I found it to be incredibly unreliable.  

(...)

 

Thanks to the game mechanics penetration is arguably below average in many situations for the Patriot.



mortalsatsuma #9 Posted 03 August 2018 - 09:45 PM

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View PostAikl, on 03 August 2018 - 09:31 PM, said:

 

Thanks to the game mechanics penetration is arguably below average in many situations for the Patriot.

 

Yeah, you do have to take into account APCR having a worse normalisation angle than AP but it's still a healthy penetration amount. It's a shame the improved APCR adds barely any extra pen but then I suppose it's also a shame that you kinda need to have good premium ammo pen to remain competitive when you're not top tier. 

Dr_ownape #10 Posted 03 August 2018 - 09:48 PM

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thinking that T8 Prems should only be played in FL or SH then yes it's a great choice

 

randoms - no T8 Prem tank is worth it



SlyMeerkat #11 Posted 03 August 2018 - 09:50 PM

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Yes both on the tank itself and as a collector 

Ziurawka #12 Posted 04 August 2018 - 09:05 AM

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This tank was the worst investment I made in this game. Bought it right before the introduction of 3-5-7. You have to be able to sit hull down for way too long to make the measly DPM stack and you don't get opportunities like that in most games. If you really want a tier 8 heavy get the Polish one..  

8126Jakobsson #13 Posted 04 August 2018 - 09:12 AM

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Yeah it's a good one but wait until they have changed the current matchmaker, which was said to take about 6 months. Perhaps a discounted christmas gift to yourself. 




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