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AlphaGamer_ #1 Posted 03 August 2018 - 05:43 PM

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I'm I the only one that thinks that the E-100 is getting killed? Now a days the only thing he had going for him was the alpha damage.. but now, with the polish heavy and the Obj. 705, they have better armor, smaller weak spots, they are more maneuverable, smaller and the same or almost the same alpha, I think that there are a lot of vehicles that are being left behind, especially in the German line, and I think that it needs a revision, the new tanks are getting more and more powerful each time and the then competitive tanks, are now a pain to play because of the unforgiving competition. 

 

This applies to the E-100 but the same can be said with other vehicle types and tiers from other nations.



Balc0ra #2 Posted 03 August 2018 - 06:40 PM

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Better armor? Must be why QB had issues penning an E100 lower plate. And the E100 auto penned his forward hull. Hull down they are mostly the same. That and the E100 has way better HEAT pen. So until I see the exact armor layout for that tank. I would not say E100 killer yet. 

DuncaN_101 #3 Posted 03 August 2018 - 06:46 PM

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so wait are you already sh1tt1ng your pants because of a tank thats not even in game yet?

 

the E100 is one of the most balanced T10;s in game

it just takes a bit of skill too drive it if you can't do well in it ... its not the tank



AlphaGamer_ #4 Posted 03 August 2018 - 07:03 PM

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View PostDuncaN_101, on 03 August 2018 - 06:46 PM, said:

so wait are you already sh1tt1ng your pants because of a tank thats not even in game yet?

 

the E100 is one of the most balanced T10;s in game

it just takes a bit of skill too drive it if you can't do well in it ... its not the tank

 

Im not saying that the E-100 isnt balenced, look at the tiger 2, its balenced, but still lacks in performence in comparation to other heavy tanks of the same tier.
I can play the tiger 2, its a tank that requires its skill due to its ever better competition. But the thing is that new supper heavy tanks are behing introduced that have better charcterstics hat those of the E-100, that tank has easy to hit and pen weak spots, yes, if you are playing against somewone that doesnt know when or where to shoot at an E-100's , yes, you can beat them, but his armor isnt great specially for its size, and people will play the new polish tank because it has everything the E-100 has and better (everything exept side armor by the looks of it)

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Andrasan89 #5 Posted 03 August 2018 - 08:30 PM

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not really....how time 60TP keep PROPER WEAKPOINTS , E100 will survive without problems

 

WG finally did a great job at balance...



TheDrownedApe #6 Posted 03 August 2018 - 08:42 PM

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Not played Ehonda since i got the Maus

Not played Maus since i got the Type 5

Not played Type 5 cause TX slow heavies are awful in the current meta



leggasiini #7 Posted 03 August 2018 - 08:42 PM

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View PostBalc0ra, on 03 August 2018 - 07:40 PM, said:

Hull down they are mostly the same.

60TP is massively better when hulldown because most of the turret is not HEAT spammable. The pennable parts of the turret are very small.

 

E 100 is arguably better at sidescraping, though, namely because of better side armor and because the hull cheek and turret ring of the 60TP are HEAT spammable when it angles. E 100 also has stronger LFP.

 

60TP overall still has arguably more useful armor just because of the turret, it doesnt die to premium as easily.



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View PostDuncaN_101, on 03 August 2018 - 06:46 PM, said:

the E100 is one of the most balanced T10;s in game

 

True. It's just that many other Tier VIII, IX, and X are not. Heck even at mids Tiers there's glaring issues with vehicle balance.



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View Postleggasiini, on 03 August 2018 - 08:42 PM, said:

60TP is massively better when hulldown because most of the turret is not HEAT spammable. The pennable parts of the turret are very small.

 

E 100 is arguably better at sidescraping, though, namely because of better side armor and because the hull cheek and turret ring of the 60TP are HEAT spammable when it angles. E 100 also has stronger LFP.

 

60TP overall still has arguably more useful armor just because of the turret, it doesnt die to premium as easily.

 

From my impressions. Yes and no. Hull down using the max gun depression at med to long range. Equally as painful. Hull down on flat ground around a corner at med to close range? Way easier to deal with. You have an easier cupola to hit. Or you could hit the small strip under the gun that's about 265mm if you want to spam HEAT. Or even the drivers cupola if you did see it with it's 235mm armor. Lower plate is about 210 head on. So it needs to take a strong position to be effective. And reverse side scraping gave mixed results. That front side plate vs taller guns is way to weak as vs a high impact angle it's around 200mm. Vs the rest you can get it to 250 if you get the right angle. But vs the HEAT spam there. It was useless. 

 

It's strong. But not broken strong tbh. But then again it's CT. It's never a good indication of anything when facing mostly gold ammo and mostly 60TP's. 



Innapropriate_Username #10 Posted 04 August 2018 - 01:25 AM

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E100 already (if not) worst Tier10 tank in the game.

 

Whole Line needs to be down-tiered, and new Tier10 enter game like with Bobjec...

 

Spoiler

 

Half of German Tech-tree needs to be reworked, 9/10 worst tanks in game are German...

 

And while Mud-Guards and Extra-Tracks are not modeled or counted on German tanks.... Soviets get MAGIC UFO ARMOR BLYAT

This is 30mm THICK armor plate in this game:

Spoiler

 



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View PostAliceUnchained, on 03 August 2018 - 10:39 PM, said:

 

True. It's just that many other Tier VIII, IX, and X are not. Heck even at mids Tiers there's glaring issues with vehicle balance.

 

true but that doesn't mean they should mess that up even more by buffing everything and its mom does it?

4nt #12 Posted 04 August 2018 - 04:58 PM

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Maybe this idea is the reason why almost every match at t9 I've played has had E100 at one or both sides. At times even 3.

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View PostInnapropriate_Username, on 04 August 2018 - 01:25 AM, said:

E100 already (if not) worst Tier10 tank in the game.

 

Whole Line needs to be down-tiered, and new Tier10 enter game like with Bobjec...

 

 

Half of German Tech-tree needs to be reworked, 9/10 worst tanks in game are German...

 

And while Mud-Guards and Extra-Tracks are not modeled or counted on German tanks.... Soviets get MAGIC UFO ARMOR BLYAT

This is 30mm THICK armor plate in this game:

Spoiler

 

In Wargaming's universe, it's made from stalinium, not steel :trollface:

Stupid-[edited]bias.



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View PostDuncaN_101, on 03 August 2018 - 05:46 PM, said:

so wait are you already sh1tt1ng your pants because of a tank thats not even in game yet?

 

the E100 is one of the most balanced T10;s in game

it just takes a bit of skill too drive it if you can't do well in it ... its not the tank

 

1931 average damage in E100 i consider poor, when itself it has 2700hp. So in your own words you say you are bad in e100?

Mr_Burrows #15 Posted 04 August 2018 - 08:11 PM

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E-100 was dead 3 years ago. It was about the same time I finally arsed myself researching it. Then they buffed Maus. Go figure. 

 

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unrealname #16 Posted 04 August 2018 - 08:42 PM

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well e100 was outdated some time ago. But if we compare 60TP and 705A, 60Tp doesnt have any armor what so ever to be honest, hull is paper which you cant angle, turret is good yes, but not even close to IS7 or 705A good. on even ground cupola is not that hard to hit and there is a shot trap below gun mantlet which gets penetrated quite frequently( just checked on tanks.gg, no wonder that place is only 260mm effective), while i tried it on test server, so in general i still think that e100 have its place in randoms. 

BTW, here are some screenshots from last battle with 705A against few 60TPs.

 

lol great image size :D ok about the numbers - 7,8k dmg dealt + 8k blocked by armor :) 

 

anyway well positioned 705A is way harder to deal with than 60TP, at least that how it seems to be so far, while playing around on test server. I just unlocked 705A on live server as well, thanks to wg anniversary it took me 30 battles to do so :D Im currently using it in ranked and you know what? fek the is7, 705A is the way to go for me in ranked from now on ;)


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E100 is a huge HP donor in the battlefield. Everyone will pen it's turret with gold ammo and everyone will shot nothing but gold at you. Also, arty loves you very much. Yes, it's good for side scraping but this is something that many other tanks can do even better. I've stop playing this tank long ago and I suggest every one to do the same.

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View PostDuncaN_101, on 03 August 2018 - 05:46 PM, said:

so wait are you already sh1tt1ng your pants because of a tank thats not even in game yet?

 

the E100 is one of the most balanced T10;s in game

it just takes a bit of skill too drive it if you can't do well in it ... its not the tank

Cracking up laughing great post 



Pansenmann #19 Posted 04 August 2018 - 10:28 PM

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The E-100 is my most played tier 10 tank,

and the first I bought.

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It is not like the others. :)

Especially when you can field a good crew in it

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and make use of some turret/hull angling - it takes a lot of practice to engage multiple enemies (frontally)
you can get some nice results.
Of course I can only recommend to have some platoon mates to back you up if needed.

 

 

so I say it's not dead yet.



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After taking a pause from wot for several months, I rolled into my E100 yesterday and did like 5k damage in first game. I still find it a good tank, especially in town maps. Also I almost forgot that my E100 has like 5 skills so it clutch shoots (you don't have to aim for very long to hit, so enemy has less time to aim my flat turret face) like a boss so that might be a reason why I like it so much.

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