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xx984 #1 Posted 06 August 2018 - 02:10 AM

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Whats going through the minds of people like this? Spend all this money, Have no idea what they are doing. Do people actually find this fun? Sure this isnt the worst ive seen but the most recent example hence why i used it. I get not everyone cares about fancy stets, And play for fun. But how can anyone find being a liability and having no idea what you are doing fun?

 

Got into a game with this guy, As i was falling back from lakeville valley because was on 600 HP and there was a 1.5k hp 430u i could not contest, this guy goes charging in, i do the fall back command, later tell him to wait. When he inevitably dies "LEO 1 DEBIL, RAPORT LEO 1 NOOB, DEBIL" all the classics, then complains he is "20Km/h" are you sure about that and that i left him and some crap, Good guy T54 backed me up in chat in calling this guy a moron.

 

This thread just basically serving as a late night venting, don't mind me.

 

Replay can be found by searching my name in WoT Replays, wont link for naming and shaming reasons

 



Jigabachi #2 Posted 06 August 2018 - 07:31 AM

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I've seen a bad player once, too.
Since they are so rare to find, we should start a forum game: The one who finds most of them will get a fancy flowerpot.

Cobra6 #3 Posted 06 August 2018 - 07:41 AM

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Classic target audience for Wargaming, no tactical insight what-so-ever but a big wallet they can spend with.

And since they spend money already, there is no real incentive to force them to improve as to increase the enjoyment for everyone.

 

Barely 3000 battles but he has already spent around 200EUR, even if he quit now he'd be an ideal customer for Wargaming.

 

If you look at players like this it wouldn't be a bad idea to not allow them to buy premium tanks of a tier they've not yet unlocked in game, so no tier 8 premium tank if you've not at least unlocked one tier 8 from any nation. That way at least they would pick up how they are supposed to play at the higher tiers a bit better instead of now where they employ tier 2 tactics in a tier 8 match as top tier tank.

 

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Edited by Cobra6, 06 August 2018 - 08:04 AM.


NoobySkooby #4 Posted 06 August 2018 - 07:45 AM

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View PostJigabachi, on 06 August 2018 - 07:31 AM, said:

I've seen a bad player once, too.
Since they are so rare to find, we should start a forum game: The one who finds most of them will get a fancy flowerpot.

 

I shall start painting some right away, and that is the beauty of XVM, knowing to who to troll next, lol.

 

 

I don't use it myself, far too distracting on screen, all those damn colours, I just ask mt clan mates who do use it what it's all about.



8126Jakobsson #5 Posted 06 August 2018 - 07:46 AM

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Wow, now that's an extra special reroll. :D

Homer_J #6 Posted 06 August 2018 - 07:55 AM

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View PostJigabachi, on 06 August 2018 - 07:31 AM, said:

I've seen a bad player once, too.
 

The one in the OP isn't even bad.  48.8% is pretty much bang on server average, and that's with a fairly low battle count.

 

View Postxx984, on 06 August 2018 - 02:10 AM, said:

Whats going through the minds of people like this? Spend all this money, Have no idea what they are doing. 

 

Ever hear the expression "all the gear and no idea"?  It's not something exclusive to WoT.



gunslingerXXX #7 Posted 06 August 2018 - 08:22 AM

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Average dmg >51%.

Judging players on WR in tier 8 tanks seems hardly fair. He probably played 80-90% bottom tier.



Homer_J #8 Posted 06 August 2018 - 08:55 AM

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View PostgunslingerXXX, on 06 August 2018 - 08:22 AM, said:

Average dmg >51%.

Judging players on WR in tier 8 tanks seems hardly fair. He probably played 80-90% bottom tier.

 

Not to mention he has above average win rate on Souma, Lorraine, and Spaghettio.

 

Lowe can be put down to battle count, there's still scope for improvement there, it's mostly the AMX cda dragging him down.



Baldrickk #9 Posted 06 August 2018 - 08:56 AM

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View PostHomer_J, on 06 August 2018 - 07:55 AM, said:

The one in the OP isn't even bad.  48.8% is pretty much bang on server average, and that's with a fairly low battle count.

Globally or active?

Because the active players are more representative of what you will actually meet in battle, and their average is over 50%



Homer_J #10 Posted 06 August 2018 - 09:04 AM

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View PostBaldrickk, on 06 August 2018 - 08:56 AM, said:

Globally or active?

 

You are Mr stats man.

 

Either way I see much worse in every battle.  This one hardly stands out.



Aimless #11 Posted 06 August 2018 - 09:16 AM

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View Post8126Jakobsson, on 06 August 2018 - 07:46 AM, said:

Wow, now that's an extra special reroll. :D

 

Not so extra. That's more like the usual kind of failed reroll. If things are not running like they hoped, they become upset easily.

Enforcer1975 #12 Posted 06 August 2018 - 09:32 AM

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View Postxx984, on 06 August 2018 - 02:10 AM, said:

Got into a game with this guy, As i was falling back from lakeville valley because was on 600 HP and there was a 1.5k hp 430u i could not contest, this guy goes charging in, i do the fall back command, later tell him to wait. When he inevitably dies "LEO 1 DEBIL, RAPORT LEO 1 NOOB, DEBIL" all the classics

Sounds familiar. 

You tell in chat.  Don't go there. You use the menu to tell STOP. You use the menu to tell RETREAT. 

No reaction to either one. They still push or don't pull back. You know...i usually don't leave a flank without at least having the courtesy to ask them to do the same when i see a flank lost. 

The moment they die.....WHY U NO SUPPORT ME? BOT REPORT 10 TIMES!!!!111oneone

Classic fail of overall awareness. 



Baldrickk #13 Posted 06 August 2018 - 09:37 AM

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View PostHomer_J, on 06 August 2018 - 09:04 AM, said:

You are Mr stats man.

 

Either way I see much worse in every battle.  This one hardly stands out.

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Overall

Average Win Rate: 49.07%

 

Active Players

Average Win Rate: 55.12%

 

 

Sure,  there are lots of worse players, but the fact we are saying that makes me feel like expectations  of what players should do are really low. 

Like - for the average player,  being mediocre is  done sort of unattainable goal that isn't worth trying to attain. 


Edited by Baldrickk, 07 August 2018 - 03:57 PM.


8126Jakobsson #14 Posted 06 August 2018 - 09:42 AM

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View PostAimless, on 06 August 2018 - 09:16 AM, said:

 

Not so extra. That's more like the usual kind of failed reroll. If things are not running like they hoped, they become upset easily.

 

I gave him the rating of "extra" due to his addition of tech-tree arties in his new portfolio. I'm a generous judge.



sgtYester #15 Posted 06 August 2018 - 09:48 AM

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and nobody talks about the fact that this idiot that does not know how to play tanks manages a positive winrate in arty?

 

cause arty is all about skill?



Enforcer1975 #16 Posted 06 August 2018 - 10:09 AM

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View PostsgtYester, on 06 August 2018 - 09:48 AM, said:

and nobody talks about the fact that this idiot that does not know how to play tanks manages a positive winrate in arty?

 

cause arty is all about skill?

Probably only because when he isn't driving a tank a better player takes his place to carry for him?



Homer_J #17 Posted 06 August 2018 - 10:23 AM

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View PostBaldrickk, on 06 August 2018 - 09:37 AM, said:

 

Sure,  there are lots of worse players, but the fact we are saying that makes me feel like expectations  of what players should do are really low. 

 

Well it is only a computer game.

 

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Active Players

Average Win Rate: 55.12%
 

 

Clearly that's not sustainable.  You can't have an average winrate over 50%, OK, long term players could have built up a winrate in the past but for every winner there has to be a loser.  Do you have average recent winrates for active players?

 

 



Homer_J #18 Posted 06 August 2018 - 10:28 AM

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View PostsgtYester, on 06 August 2018 - 09:48 AM, said:

and nobody talks about the fact that this idiot that does not know how to play tanks manages a positive winrate in arty?

 

cause arty is all about skill?

 

With 22 battles?  I think luck might play a bigger part there.  Even in the LeFU he only has 51 battles, way too early to say luck or something else.

malachi6 #19 Posted 06 August 2018 - 10:33 AM

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Shock news.  People play for different reasons to the OP.  

 

Complains about players behaviour while masking said players name with an insult.  Irony is alive and kicking

 



imperiumgraecum #20 Posted 06 August 2018 - 10:49 AM

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View Postmalachi6, on 06 August 2018 - 11:33 AM, said:

Shock news.  People play for different reasons to the OP.

 

Complains about players behaviour while masking said players name with an insult.  Irony is alive and kicking

 

 

 

 

 


 

Does "naming/shaming rule" ring a bell?


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