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Johny2879 #1 Posted 06 August 2018 - 04:42 PM

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I have a suggestion for WOT in cases when a player remain flipped. To give him the chance to return, the player can use a repair kit for example. 

Homer_J #2 Posted 06 August 2018 - 04:49 PM

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Or just drive more carefully.

Desyatnik_Pansy #3 Posted 06 August 2018 - 05:02 PM

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View PostHomer_J, on 06 August 2018 - 04:49 PM, said:

Or just drive more carefully.

 

This.

FluffyRedFox #4 Posted 06 August 2018 - 07:11 PM

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View PostDesyatnik_Pansy, on 06 August 2018 - 04:02 PM, said:

 

This.

Well, to flip some things you have to drive carefully :trollface:



douglarse #5 Posted 07 August 2018 - 09:22 AM

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View PostHomer_J, on 06 August 2018 - 03:49 PM, said:

Or just drive more carefully.

 

some tanks are so easy to flip, French lights for example. Would be useful tho. Better than watching your teammates ignore you

Cobra6 #6 Posted 07 August 2018 - 09:35 AM

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The solution to the flipping is very simple:

 

The more a tank tilts, the more it's centre of gravity moves in the opposite direction and the progressively heavier it gets.

This way it will be impossible to flip (as it serves no purpose to begin with, just needless frustration) and it still mildly hinders you as your tank gets heavier for a brief moment so your mobility decreases.

 

Driving carefully, especially in light tanks (which are most likely to flip) is not an option or wanted, your mobility is a balancing factor so you should be able to freely exploit this. The micro-ridges and bumps everywhere make it hard to use your mobility properly.

 

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Edited by Cobra6, 07 August 2018 - 09:37 AM.


wsatnutter #7 Posted 07 August 2018 - 10:18 AM

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constantly flipping means the driver has the issue

_Sensation_ #8 Posted 07 August 2018 - 10:49 AM

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Rhm Pzw...

 

I actually sold that tank cause the gun is crap, gunhandling is crapand it always flips. Even when it doesnt



AliceUnchained #9 Posted 07 August 2018 - 10:51 AM

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View PostHomer_J, on 06 August 2018 - 04:49 PM, said:

Or just drive more carefully.

 

I agree to a certain extend, but physics do work in mysterious ways at times in WoT.

250swb #10 Posted 07 August 2018 - 10:56 AM

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Lowering the cognitive and motor skills of the game is a bad idea, so if you flip your tank a lot practice not flipping it. And although WOT is not a tank simulator getting even further away from the 'reality' that in real life tanks driven badly do flip it's a bad idea to fake 'it didn't happen' by using the repair kit.

Cobra6 #11 Posted 07 August 2018 - 11:02 AM

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View PostAliceUnchained, on 07 August 2018 - 09:51 AM, said:

 

I agree to a certain extend, but physics do work in mysterious ways at times in WoT.

 

You mean that rocky surfaces do not behave like greased wet soapstone in real life the way they behave in WoT? Where if your tank is on rock even if its flat ground it can easily be pushed around and when it's on a slight incline it will just slide off?

 

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Ochso #12 Posted 07 August 2018 - 11:04 AM

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I think that by just making the rock physics feel less like magnetic pole repulsion  to the tank would be nicerer..

As If it were repair kit correctable . with my luck, Id have just used it and still would be stuck.

Of course Im only referring to  90 degree flipping not a full 180.. 



250swb #13 Posted 07 August 2018 - 09:02 PM

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View PostCobra6, on 07 August 2018 - 10:02 AM, said:

 

You mean that rocky surfaces do not behave like greased wet soapstone in real life the way they behave in WoT? Where if your tank is on rock even if its flat ground it can easily be pushed around and when it's on a slight incline it will just slide off?

 

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There is a photo on the internet that shows a Tiger II buried in a collapsed house, and to all intents and purposes you'd think it had been knocked out by enemy fire. In fact it had slid down a cobbled street because it couldn't get any grip and ended up in the house. Tracks do not have massive grip, what they do is spread the weight of a tank over soft ground.

Edited by 250swb, 07 August 2018 - 09:04 PM.


HassenderZerhacker #14 Posted 08 August 2018 - 02:12 PM

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View PostHomer_J, on 06 August 2018 - 04:49 PM, said:

Or just drive more carefully.

 

even driving carefully, sometimes flips occur that totally aren't the player's fault.

once I was driving in Erlenberg in my T-25 Pilot near the river, northern side. there are small bumps in the SNOW there, and when I drove over the first, it catapulted my T-25 in the air and it landed upside down in the river, in total disregard of the laws of physics!

 



FizzleMcSnizzle #15 Posted 08 August 2018 - 02:36 PM

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When pixel tanks behave like rally cars, they are going to flip. They are simply way too accelerative and manoeuvrable in the game. If players want that sort of arcade fun, they should simply accept the consequences.  

Edited by FizzleMcSnizzle, 08 August 2018 - 02:36 PM.


Cobra6 #16 Posted 08 August 2018 - 02:55 PM

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View Post250swb, on 07 August 2018 - 08:02 PM, said:

 

There is a photo on the internet that shows a Tiger II buried in a collapsed house, and to all intents and purposes you'd think it had been knocked out by enemy fire. In fact it had slid down a cobbled street because it couldn't get any grip and ended up in the house. Tracks do not have massive grip, what they do is spread the weight of a tank over soft ground.

 

I know but the question you have to ask yourself is:

 

A) Does this add fun to the players gameplay?

B) If it doesn't, why are you implementing it?

 

While sliding off a steep slope might make sense, not getting grip on almost flat ground and your tank spazzing out as soon as 1 track touches rocks adds nothing useful.

 

Of course I know *WHY* they did it, to fix mountain goating and prevent people from climbing, but that is just a hatchet solution instead of the correct solution which is to block off areas which should not be accessible with terrain features.

Wargaming though they could implement an easy fix to a complex problem and so as usual implemented a fix which created a bigger problem....

 

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kaneloon #17 Posted 08 August 2018 - 03:09 PM

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I don't see why 180° flips mean auto-destruction versus on the side where you have to wait until the end.

I know side is often easier to rescue ... but it is not as if every game lasted 15 minutes ...

 

And if someone tries to help the flipped it may result in ally damage, even some said they turned blue (dunno if real and still possible).



baribal_80 #18 Posted 08 August 2018 - 03:18 PM

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View PostHomer_J, on 06 August 2018 - 03:49 PM, said:

Or just drive more carefully.

 

Tell that to ELC EVEN 90 that can flip driving in a straight line over a 5cm bump

Nishi_Kinuyo #19 Posted 08 August 2018 - 03:34 PM

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View PostHomer_J, on 06 August 2018 - 04:49 PM, said:

Or just drive more carefully.

View PostDesyatnik_Pansy, on 06 August 2018 - 05:02 PM, said:

 

This.

View Postwsatnutter, on 07 August 2018 - 10:18 AM, said:

constantly flipping means the driver has the issue

These thingies quoted above me.

I've personally found it almost impossible to flip a tank with normal driving.

Yes, even with light tanks (A-20 racewagon included) assuming one does not race over every rock along the way, and even then I've found it hard enough to flip it in training rooms.



malaquey #20 Posted 08 August 2018 - 03:42 PM

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If tanks are able to flip, surely there also must be a consumable to un-flip it.

 

next time your crew member get's killed, make sure you stay at base and don't fight at all. same argument as to herp derp drive carefully. we smort.






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