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nvtopgun #1 Posted 07 August 2018 - 11:36 AM

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Have you noticed how 50TP (tier 8) almost always gets tier 8 and above tiers on random battles?

 

On the battles that i've played its been realy a low % of battles where i've got lower tiers...Wargaming should do something to balance the matching making with 50TP tanks to get lower and higher tiers more even don't you think?

 

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Yakito #2 Posted 07 August 2018 - 11:38 AM

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That's ANY tier 8 premium MM. Don't act surprised. Buying a premium tank will just bring you frustration.

Dava_117 #3 Posted 07 August 2018 - 11:42 AM

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View PostYakito, on 07 August 2018 - 11:38 AM, said:

That's ANY tier 8 premium MM. Don't act surprised. Buying a premium tank will just bring you frustration.

 

Fixed it for you. ;)



JocMeister #4 Posted 07 August 2018 - 11:45 AM

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How can you have missed Tier 8 being absolute crap since the stupid 3/5/7 MM?

 

Even WG themselves admitted they broke tier 8 although it took them 8 months to do so. 

 

Why do you think people stopped buying tier 8 prems. Personally I dont even play tier 8 any longer. 

 



zegumo #5 Posted 07 August 2018 - 12:23 PM

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I don't have that tank but i do have the VK100.01.P and in 50 battles i have never ever entered a Battle being Top Tier not even a Full Tier 8 Battle. Every single Battle i did was Tier 9 and Tier X.

With this said i understand your frustration because i did not spend a Cent to get the VK. 

 

SO I STAND AND SUPPORT YOUR POST.



Balc0ra #6 Posted 07 August 2018 - 12:25 PM

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It's a tier 8. Idk why you expected differently. That and there have been a damage mission this weekend for 20 000 XP on any tank. 90% of the server played tier X TD's. That really took a damper on tier 8's due to tier population. And when there are events like that. Don't matter what you do to the MM to fix higher and lower tiers more often. If he can only put you on higher tiers That's what happens. Only 3 spots pr game to be top tier, but 7 to be bottom tier. And with more tier X to pick from, and less tier 6. Well... 

 

Tho I did see mostly pure tier 8 games the past week. Even on my Pantera. 


Edited by Balc0ra, 07 August 2018 - 12:34 PM.


AliceUnchained #7 Posted 07 August 2018 - 12:27 PM

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View Postnvtopgun, on 07 August 2018 - 11:36 AM, said:

Have you noticed how 50TP (tier 8) almost always gets tier 8 and above tiers on random battles?

 

Have you noticed anything else about this game, and the MM in general perhaps?



Cobra6 #8 Posted 07 August 2018 - 12:52 PM

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Welcome to tier 8 MM, this has been happening ever since the "New" and "Improved" matchmaker was released.

 

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Slyspy #9 Posted 07 August 2018 - 01:38 PM

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View PostCobra6, on 07 August 2018 - 12:52 PM, said:

Welcome to tier 8 MM, this has been happening ever since the "New" and "Improved" matchmaker was released.

 

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To be honest it applies to every tier which can be - 2.



Bennie182 #10 Posted 07 August 2018 - 01:49 PM

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funny how people still enjoy living under a rock. these days it's pretty warm, you know?!

Melkovich #11 Posted 07 August 2018 - 01:50 PM

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But there is a big difference in player numbers on each tier. Largely due to T8 premium tanks those are probably the most played tanks in the game. Mathematicly it thus is possible to fit in the most T8 tanks as the low 7 in the 3/5/7 system, next 5 an superlucky as top 3. Of course there are also t8 only battles and T10 only battles to somehow get rid of excess t8 & 10 tanks that dont fit in the 3/5/7 matchmaker.

But there are way worse tanks to be the lower tier in a game in that the 50TP, since that gun is scary enough for even tier 10 tanks and the turret has a good chance to work against t10.
 

View PostBennie182, on 07 August 2018 - 01:49 PM, said:

funny how people still enjoy living under a rock. these days it's pretty warm, you know?!

doh, under a rock its usually cooler!


 

Cobra6 #12 Posted 07 August 2018 - 02:11 PM

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View PostSlyspy, on 07 August 2018 - 12:38 PM, said:

 

To be honest it applies to every tier which can be - 2.

 

You are right but funnily enough I don't notice it as much when playing tier 7 and 6, granted I mostly play light tanks nowadays and tier for tier I'd *MUCH* rather be in a tier 6 or 7 light tank as bottom tier then a tier 8 light tank.

 

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Balc0ra #13 Posted 07 August 2018 - 03:54 PM

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View PostSlyspy, on 07 August 2018 - 01:38 PM, said:

 

To be honest it applies to every tier which can be - 2.

 

True, but not as badly tbh. Tier 8 is affected by big events more so then tier 6 or 7. As this weekend tier X TD's were out in force to farm damage. My tier 7 did not notice much. My tier 8's did feel it. Def due to 3-5-7. Same reason why I never play some tier 8's in the late hours after it came. As then tier 9 and X population spikes vs other tiers. And you get +2 constantly. Then it's mostly ELC even 90 I play. Less so on tier 6 after midnight. 

 


Edited by Balc0ra, 07 August 2018 - 03:55 PM.


wobblybob #14 Posted 07 August 2018 - 04:28 PM

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How many times do we have to go over this? It's all the fault of preferential matchmaking tanks. Don't you folk even read WG press releases? I saw a KV-5 today. See what that callous player has caused. Guy here has bought new tank and its useless as it only see's tier 10 match up. Maybe it would be an idea to remove PMM tanks?

kaneloon #15 Posted 07 August 2018 - 04:42 PM

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At least when heavy not top tiers you are less arty focused.

 

Spoiler

 



CroPanzer #16 Posted 07 August 2018 - 04:44 PM

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Well, everyone said what needed to be said about the mm, but ehat about the 50tp ability to handle high tiers?
I can't tell because I don't own one, but how is that tank's particular gameplay affected by that?
IMO tanks like Lowe or t34 aren't that hurt by the MM in its state now

Mave_Maverick #17 Posted 07 August 2018 - 04:59 PM

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If you want to play T8 Battle, you have to take T6 tanks.

 

Is WG logic.



Rati_Festa #18 Posted 07 August 2018 - 05:20 PM

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Playing anything slow in t8 is just pointless as u are constant cannon fodder. T44s 100s, progettos and lor 40t, bulldog and the even are the only t8 tanks prem tanks without pref mm worth playing.

WG releasing t8 premiums the week after they admit the mm is broken is just a very poor long term business decision, as they are just pissing off another group of potentially cash rich customers. Businesses that continually annoy customers dont usual last very long...


mjs_89 #19 Posted 07 August 2018 - 05:44 PM

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View PostJocMeister, on 07 August 2018 - 11:45 AM, said:

How can you have missed Tier 8 being absolute crap since the stupid 3/5/7 MM?

 

Even WG themselves admitted they broke tier 8 although it took them 8 months to do so. 

 

Why do you think people stopped buying tier 8 prems. Personally I dont even play tier 8 any longer. 

 

 

Same, sadly. The only one I take out occasionally is the Greydog, that's probably the most capable one I got. Other than that, I settled for grinding tech-tree 8s until the next FL and grind them there, much more fun than being cannon-fodder most of the time.

kaneloon #20 Posted 07 August 2018 - 05:54 PM

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View PostRati_Festa, on 07 August 2018 - 04:20 PM, said:

Playing anything slow in t8 is just pointless as u are constant cannon fodder. T44s 100s, progettos and lor 40t, bulldog and the even are the only t8 tanks prem tanks without pref mm worth playing.

WG releasing t8 premiums the week after they admit the mm is broken is just a very poor long term business decision, as they are just pissing off another group of potentially cash rich customers. Businesses that continually annoy customers dont usual last very long...

 

In the heavies the t26e5 is fast enough and good enough to look at tiers X.

Edited by kaneloon, 07 August 2018 - 05:55 PM.






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