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fallenkezef #1 Posted 07 August 2018 - 12:18 PM

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Finished the arty mission for the stug and got a femme crewmember. Going through the options for tanks to train her for I saw T95/Chieftain and Chieftain.

 

I know the T95 Frankentank is a special reward vehicle but the normal Chieftain? Any news on that?



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Next week.

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Just before pigs learn to fly and hell freezes over.

Chieftain Mk6 being introduced into World of Tanks is the true first sign of impending doom.


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View PostAvengerOrion, on 07 August 2018 - 12:27 PM, said:

Just before pigs learn to fly and hell freezes over.

Chieftain Mk6 being introduced into World of Tanks is the true first sign of impending doom.

 

Thought the option to train the crew to Chieftain was trollbait from WG, doubt I'll be surprised.

Axelfoley666 #5 Posted 07 August 2018 - 12:34 PM

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The Chieftain is to be released soon and to ensure a fair and balanced game they will at the same time release the Russian T-14 Armata.

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View Postfallenkezef, on 07 August 2018 - 12:18 PM, said:

Finished the arty mission for the stug and got a femme crewmember. Going through the options for tanks to train her for I saw T95/Chieftain and Chieftain.

 

It's been there for years.

 

It's there because the tank is in the game files, that's all.



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Chieftain has been in the game files for ages now hence why you can recruit a crew for it. Last news we heard of it IIRC was just after the S. Conqueror got released where they said something along the lines of if the Chieftain will come, it'll come in its own line rather than branching off the Conqueror. Honestly, I highly doubt we'll ever see it.

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View PostFluffyRedFox, on 07 August 2018 - 12:42 PM, said:

Chieftain has been in the game files for ages now hence why you can recruit a crew for it. Last news we heard of it IIRC was just after the S. Conqueror got released where they said something along the lines of if the Chieftain will come, it'll come in its own line rather than branching off the Conqueror. Honestly, I highly doubt we'll ever see it.

 

Shame, a half decent job of it and that tank will print money for WG

PoIestar #9 Posted 07 August 2018 - 01:05 PM

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View PostFluffyRedFox, on 07 August 2018 - 12:42 PM, said:

Chieftain has been in the game files for ages now hence why you can recruit a crew for it. Last news we heard of it IIRC was just after the S. Conqueror got released where they said something along the lines of if the Chieftain will come, it'll come in its own line rather than branching off the Conqueror. Honestly, I highly doubt we'll ever see it.

 

And yet I don't understand it. Making quick cash after release (people converting free exp for a tier 10) is what WG is after, money wise. So it's safe to say we can exclude it being about the money.

Gathering tanks to put into a branch could make sense. But that wouldn't explain why making it a Conqueror replacement back in the day was such a big deal. The state of the game has been questionable ever since, I dare to say implementing it now in the state it was originally in will NOT make it OP or broken. It was never, in current meta it will be even less.

 

Now if the 'balancing' was such an issue, then why do, on paper even more broken tanks like the WZ-5A, Obj 277 and don't get me started on the 268 V4, get into the game no problem? Because they're Soviet or allied to them?

 

I'm nobody to judge (apparently) but all the puzzle pieces form a great anti-British opinion on the matter.



Comrade_Renamon #10 Posted 07 August 2018 - 01:07 PM

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Pretty much what Fluffy said, rumors hinted that the line would have "Gems" like the A38 Valiant and Super Valiant in there.

Balc0ra #11 Posted 07 August 2018 - 01:17 PM

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MTLS 1G14 was in the game files as a premium for years before it appeared for the rest. First time I did see it was on a press account 6 years ago. So who knows, as it's not the first tank to linger in the game files for years doing nothing. 

 

 Tho last WG talked about it, they simply said not to expect it this year. They still have not found anything to lead up to it. 

 

Spoiler

 

 

View PostPoIestar, on 07 August 2018 - 01:05 PM, said:

And yet I don't understand it. Making quick cash after release (people converting free exp for a tier 10) is what WG is after, money wise.

 

Now if the 'balancing' was such an issue, then why do, on paper even more broken tanks like the WZ-5A, Obj 277 and don't get me started on the 268 V4, get into the game no problem? Because they're Soviet or allied to them

 

 

If it was a tier X leading from the Conq. I doubt they would make much on it. As due to early hype. Many did grind the British HT line to get ready for the swap even a year before. But how many will buy free XP to get faster up the Polish line? Vs just one tank on a tech tree most have unlocked by now?  

 

As for balance? I doubt that's the issue anymore. Once they left it the first time, console and China found it. Tho China has not done anything to it. Console did nerf it several times. It went from broken to fairly fine. I know WG did say they did use that data last time they did test it. Tho that was almost 2 years ago now. 


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View PostBalc0ra, on 07 August 2018 - 12:17 PM, said:

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 The problem is that we don’t have vehicles suitable to lead to it.

 

kektop, you could probably do at least 2 more Brit heavy lines from tier 2-10 and yet they say crap like that :teethhappy:



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They will probably add more british (non-premium) tanks ater they are done with implementing the whole Soviet tech tree, from Objekt 000 to Objekt 999, and their copied/foreign licensed/bought counterparts starting from T-54A(bkhazia) to t-54Z(imbabwe). And only after that can come all other nations :trollface:

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View PostComrade_Renamon, on 07 August 2018 - 01:07 PM, said:

Pretty much what Fluffy said, rumors hinted that the line would have "Gems" like the A38 Valiant and Super Valiant in there.

"Super Valiant"?

 

Afaik, they made only one Valiant to begin with, so what's this super version then?

Uparmoured like the suka kankurwa?



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View PostNishi_Kinuyo, on 07 August 2018 - 12:27 PM, said:

"Super Valiant"?

 

Afaik, they made only one Valiant to begin with, so what's this super version then?

Uparmoured like the suka kankurwa?

iirc, its super, super uparmoured, like 250mm up armoured :trollface: Ofc the brits only armed it with the same gun that the normal valiant had so you'll have an immobile brick that won't die that can't damage anything. I kinda hope they don't add it since there's a lot better candidates for mid tier tanks. hey I could do a chieftain proposal thread and can go into my thought for how a chieftain line would look like if anyone wants :v



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View PostFluffyRedFox, on 07 August 2018 - 12:42 PM, said:

Chieftain has been in the game files for ages now hence why you can recruit a crew for it. Last news we heard of it IIRC was just after the S. Conqueror got released where they said something along the lines of if the Chieftain will come, it'll come in its own line rather than branching off the Conqueror. Honestly, I highly doubt we'll ever see it.

 

Well on another thread there was someone demanding a premium tier 8 heavy, hint hint:trollface:

Bexleyheath #17 Posted 07 August 2018 - 02:01 PM

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Isnt the chieftain a "WoT: Console" exclusive tank? I thought that was why we couldnt have it.



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View PostFluffyRedFox, on 07 August 2018 - 01:23 PM, said:

kektop, you could probably do at least 2 more Brit heavy lines from tier 2-10 and yet they say crap like that :teethhappy:

 

Going by what most players have found, and what WG have shown in the past. It would be a fairly inconsistent line. That and due to the meta the last balance team left them with. I suspect it's not easy to find anything that works well for it. 

 

View PostBexleyheath, on 07 August 2018 - 02:01 PM, said:

Isnt the chieftain a "WoT: Console" exclusive tank? I thought that was why we couldnt have it.

 

Nope. Like China, they can take anything they want from the Dev server and add it. Thus why they have more premiums then us. As most of them are abandoned projects by WG. They found it on the dev server after WG left it the first time. Put it up in the most unbalanced state, as they never test anything like China. As that's WG's job. Then have nerfed it 10+ times since then. It's that data WG have worked on to get whatever version they have now of the tank. 

 

It's basically the same as WG did to the MTLS-1G14 and WZ-111. WG left it, China and console found it and sold or used it. WG looked at their live data of the tank. Re-balanced it and put it on their servers. Tho the MTLS-1G14 has 6 rounds on console with a way longer reload vs the old 10 round one WG first had. 


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View PostBalc0ra, on 07 August 2018 - 01:12 PM, said:

 

Going by what most players have found, and what WG have shown in the past. It would be a fairly inconsistent line. That and due to the meta the last balance team left them with. I suspect it's not easy to find anything that works well for it. 

Nah, you can get a fairly consistent line going with decent turret armour and terrible hull armour with good mobility. Only issue I found is at tier 7 but you can still get the "heavium" vibe from it even without resorting to stuff like fv201 thats already used as a prem.



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https://tanks.gg/compare/s-conqueror?t=chieftain

 

Hmm... The gun is better, a lot. It also turns much faster, but that's pretty much it.






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