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acmineac #1 Posted 10 August 2018 - 12:04 PM

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This tank's only purpose to make the grind to the 5A a suffering. 15.8+15.5+59k experience...and you suppose to fight dem tier 10s with 175mm pen (or dab the 2key, which i'll never do) 'til you get that 100kxp and then you'll have a whopping 215mm pen...what are you paying for? A hundred k to get this gun? The VK 45.02 A has the "same" gun for 17k, and you dont need the turret nor the tracks. The 100.01 P starts WITH THIS GUN!! But you gotta pay 100k on the 110...how are you not aware/how can you ignore this. I guess if you don't care about the T32 why would you care about the 110. Nevermind the next polish or whatever country you'll add will have a 420 alpha gun on t8 for propably 20k xp or less and then 2 patches later when you add ugandan tanks, they will have 750 alpha for the stock gun and 1100 hesh for the optional second gun only for 16k xp...

Holdes #2 Posted 10 August 2018 - 12:17 PM

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Top gun does not feel any better at all than the stock one. I'm so happy to have used 80k bonus XP from last weekend on this pile of crap. Tiger II grind felt better than this...

Sfinski #3 Posted 10 August 2018 - 12:17 PM

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Use free xp and that track equipment that allows you to ignore tracks. 

 

That's what we all do. 



Derethim #4 Posted 10 August 2018 - 12:27 PM

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The 110 is a pain only due to the gun selection. I learned to play it the hard way and managed to go from 42% after 150 games to 51 at 300 or something like that.

Hide your lowerplate - your turret and upperplate are sturdier than that of an IS-3, unless the tier Xs start firing their gold at you, or you meet a tank destroyer.

122mm you need to spam heat and load only few APs, otherwise you'll snap. The tank is badly underpowered for it's tier.

Top gun is nice, but has terrible accuracy for sniping and low pen. You'll have to learn to live with it as the WZ-111-4A has a long grind with the tier VIII 100mm gun from the 110, until you get the 130mm.



Wintermute_1 #5 Posted 10 August 2018 - 12:31 PM

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Its not alot better with the top gun given the MM. One of those tanks you just have to 'get through'.

MeNoobTank #6 Posted 10 August 2018 - 12:32 PM

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110 is a very bad tank that require alot of free xp. Top gun is sometimes even worse than the first gun. It has less damage per shot, still very bad gun handling and still pretty bad pen. This is the worst heavy tank in T8 imo. The armor is bad, I prefer the IS-3 turret and hull over 110. Almost everything will pen the roof. Did I mention that is also a very slow tank ? It can reach 40 km/h only downhill.

 

WZ 111-A will also be a pain with the stock gun.



acmineac #7 Posted 10 August 2018 - 12:35 PM

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Maybe i'll just put my crew back to the is-2, and ignore the A5. I don't have the credits/patience this thing needs. IS-2 was a fine vehicle anyways.

Bennie182 #8 Posted 10 August 2018 - 12:38 PM

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View Postacmineac, on 10 August 2018 - 12:35 PM, said:

Maybe i'll just put my crew back to the is-2, and ignore the A5. I don't have the credits/patience this thing needs. IS-2 was a fine vehicle anyways.

I found it just as trash as the IS-2..

1-4 is worth the grind. I still love to take it out sometimes, because it's an amazing tank. Can't tell you much about the 5A nor the 113, as I struggled in both to get the job done, while in the 1-4 I did very good.



Balc0ra #9 Posted 10 August 2018 - 12:48 PM

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View Postacmineac, on 10 August 2018 - 12:04 PM, said:

This tank's only purpose to make the grind to the 5A a suffering. 15.8+15.5+59k experience...and you suppose to fight dem tier 10s with 175mm pen (or dab the 2key, which i'll never do) 'til you get that 100kxp and then you'll have a whopping 215mm pen...what are you paying for? A hundred k to get this gun? The VK 45.02 A has the "same" gun for 17k, and you dont need the turret nor the tracks. The 100.01 P starts WITH THIS GUN!! But you gotta pay 100k on the 110...how are you not aware/how can you ignore this. for 16k xp...

It's not like 200 flat pen is better vs tier X either. It's why I did sell my VK A. As it suffers too badly if you get too many low rolls. And sure the VK doesn't have a turret upgrade. But he has an engine he needs to get. And without it. It's worse than a T95 with a dead driver. You get your 33K engine from the IS-2. And you are a smaller profile target with mobility. He doesn't have that luxury. Thus he got a better gun. And when you lack mobility and is way bigger. Having a bad gun doesn't help. Even so, if they put the top tier 7 HT gun on that like they did with the 110. He would have had more pen with the long 88 vs you still anyway.

 

But... if you want to know terrible. Play the IS-M stock. That is worse than a T95 with a dead driver until you get the engine. And you have 175 pen with a terrible turret that bounces nothing. That's painful. 110 at least was nimble vs it. But play the 110 like a medium when it's stock. No one says you have to brawl vs their Type 5's. Even less so if you can't pen it head on. Then you are only cannon fodder and of zero help anyway on the HT line. So support your meds. And when you get that 100mm and the top turret. Stay hull down and use the ROF increase you get vs most HT's. That turret did HT-15 for me twice on NA. 



acmineac #10 Posted 10 August 2018 - 01:02 PM

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View PostBalc0ra, on 10 August 2018 - 11:48 AM, said:

It's not like 200 flat pen is better vs tier X either. It's why I did sell my VK A. As it suffers too badly if you get too many low rolls. And sure the VK doesn't have a turret upgrade. But he has an engine he needs to get. And without it. It's worse than a T95 with a dead driver. You get your 33K engine from the IS-2. And you are a smaller profile target with mobility. He doesn't have that luxury. Thus he got a better gun. And when you lack mobility and is way bigger. Having a bad gun doesn't help. Even so, if they put the top tier 7 HT gun on that like they did with the 110. He would have had more pen with the long 88 vs you still anyway.

 

But... if you want to know terrible. Play the IS-M stock. That is worse than a T95 with a dead driver until you get the engine. And you have 175 pen with a terrible turret that bounces nothing. That's painful. 110 at least was nimble vs it. But play the 110 like a medium when it's stock. No one says you have to brawl vs their Type 5's. Even less so if you can't pen it head on. Then you are only cannon fodder and of zero help anyway on the HT line. So support your meds. And when you get that 100mm and the top turret. Stay hull down and use the ROF increase you get vs most HT's. That turret did HT-15 for me twice on NA. 

 

Play it as a medium? It's slow af, lacks gun depression, lacks accuracy and lacks everything in general.
When i said 100k xp i did not include the engine, as you said, you get that on the is-2. I simply just wont play that tank again. I can't, a rage enough on the game as it is, no need for more.



Balc0ra #11 Posted 10 August 2018 - 01:30 PM

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View Postacmineac, on 10 August 2018 - 01:02 PM, said:

 

Play it as a medium? It's slow af, lacks gun depression, lacks accuracy and lacks everything in general.

 

Then stay on the HT line and brawl vs Type 5's with 175 pen if that's better for you. I did not say you should flank and rush with it. Play it on the medium lane. Follow your meds and support them to make the grind easier. It's still better than going up vs armor you can't pen all day is it? 

 

View Postacmineac, on 10 August 2018 - 01:02 PM, said:

When i said 100k xp i did not include the engine, as you said, you get that on the is-2. I simply just wont play that tank again. I can't, a rage enough on the game as it is, no need for more.

 

I know. But again.. even if they used the Tiger gun on the VK, he still has more pen then you, even with the stock VK gun. And I said the engine as it's not a shared module, yours is. Thus you get more on the gun and turret. But less on the tier 8 unlock vs the VK. It's the same on every tier. Not just the 110. It's why the tier 9 Foch needs 300K to unlock the tier X. As he only needs tracks to unlock. Everything else carries over or is not upgradable vs the tier 9 HT that needs 180K for the tier X. 

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