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ibetheonetrunub #1 Posted 11 August 2018 - 02:45 AM

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I just think it's a stupid outdated concept that needs to be removed/changed. Get to work WarGaming. NOW.

Hedgehog1963 #2 Posted 11 August 2018 - 03:10 AM

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View Postibetheonetrunub, on 11 August 2018 - 01:45 AM, said:

I just think it's a stupid outdated concept that needs to be removed/changed. Get to work WarGaming. NOW.

 

I think you should avoid being shot.

TheOneAboveAII #3 Posted 11 August 2018 - 04:02 AM

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*inhales a stupid volume of air* “ahahahahahhahhahahahahahahhahahahahahhahahahahahahahah.....*for a stupid long time* ahahahahahahhaha” *dies*

ibetheonetrunub #4 Posted 11 August 2018 - 04:05 AM

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clearly, ideas NOT fitting the current WG model are not respected within this forum, as nobody has any forward thinking in regards to WoT and it's obviously flawed design, congratulations. you have proved this game is populated by mostly braindead monkeys. I am included in this as I still play it. Not sure why though.

TheOneAboveAII #5 Posted 11 August 2018 - 04:16 AM

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You don’t get it...we don’t think your idea is stupid or whatever...your idea is very good and everyone says that for the past years...but i laughed because i know wg will never do it...just a lost cause.

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Robbie_T #6 Posted 11 August 2018 - 04:40 AM

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Ah its weekend again same topics.

Funny those people crying about removing prem ammo will be the ones crying they cant pen for example that type 5 heavy with regular ammo.

 



TheOneAboveAII #7 Posted 11 August 2018 - 04:55 AM

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View PostRobbie_T, on 11 August 2018 - 03:40 AM, said:

Ah its weekend again same topics.

Funny those people crying about removing prem ammo will be the ones crying they cant pen for example that type 5 heavy with regular ammo.

 

They can’t pen it with regular ammo because it has no weakspots whatsoever...not because normal ammo is useless...normal is good for the game..type 5 is not...



Robbie_T #8 Posted 11 August 2018 - 05:20 AM

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View PostTheOneAboveAII, on 11 August 2018 - 04:55 AM, said:

They can’t pen it with regular ammo because it has no weakspots whatsoever...not because normal ammo is useless...normal is good for the game..type 5 is not...

 

And with the type 5 and a whole lot of other tanks will have almost no weakspots specially tier 8 vs 10 wanna see how that gonna work out.

Can see general chat already F* WG +2MM and average pen of 219 and some 232? 

while almost all tier 10's have 250+armor especially on the turret and those tier 10's wont give you there lower plate that much ,

Gl with ya 232 pen in tier 10 off course you could flank but like i saw today thats to much to handle for a lot of people.

 

 


Edited by Robbie_T, 11 August 2018 - 05:22 AM.


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View Postibetheonetrunub, on 11 August 2018 - 04:05 AM, said:

clearly, ideas NOT fitting the current WG model are not respected within this forum, as nobody has any forward thinking in regards to WoT and it's obviously flawed design, congratulations. you have proved this game is populated by mostly braindead monkeys. I am included in this as I still play it. Not sure why though.

 

Two things: Firstly, despite the apparent evil that is prem ammo the tanks which do best are heavily armoured. Secondly, you didn't actually put forward an idea. 



sgtYester #10 Posted 11 August 2018 - 07:51 AM

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View PostRobbie_T, on 11 August 2018 - 05:20 AM, said:

 

And with the type 5 and a whole lot of other tanks will have almost no weakspots specially tier 8 vs 10 wanna see how that gonna work out.

Can see general chat already F* WG +2MM and average pen of 219 and some 232? 

while almost all tier 10's have 250+armor especially on the turret and those tier 10's wont give you there lower plate that much ,

Gl with ya 232 pen in tier 10 off course you could flank but like i saw today thats to much to handle for a lot of people.

 

 

 

what needs to be done is bring back some weakspots on all tanks, (that includes a cupola on is7) and and together with that remove gold ammo.  

 

its a plain and simple p2w mechanic that should not be in any game



DeadLecter #11 Posted 11 August 2018 - 08:13 AM

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Its necessary but it should be limited. like maybe only 20% of the loadout?

_Dsy #12 Posted 11 August 2018 - 08:27 AM

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I guess the main money income is the gold ammo.
It would be nice to remove pay to win element, but can they do it without too much financial loss? Its the main qusetion. But i guess you wont see their financial reports and stuffs.
It can be: they are buying luxury cars from that money, or pay emplayers... who know.:D

MaxxyNL #13 Posted 11 August 2018 - 08:30 AM

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View Postibetheonetrunub, on 11 August 2018 - 05:05 AM, said:

this game is populated by mostly braindead monkeys.

 

As long as you are playing the game, that sentence is 100% correct. :harp:



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View Post_Dsy, on 11 August 2018 - 08:27 AM, said:

I guess the main money income is the gold ammo.
It would be nice to remove pay to win element,

 

Would you mind to provide a source for your assumption? Unless you really can, I call *edit.


Edited by xxTANK_Uxx, 11 August 2018 - 07:38 PM.
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TheJumpMaster #15 Posted 11 August 2018 - 09:23 AM

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Like HedgeHog has stated, if you don't get shot then the type of ammo used is irrelevant.

MaxxyNL #16 Posted 11 August 2018 - 09:24 AM

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Everyone who plays the game, can buy the "Gold ammo". I wonder why some people still say it is P2W ammo? :facepalm:

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Honestly in the current situation of the game, removing premium ammo is going to create alot more problems then it would resolve.

For a long time, reworking the prem ammo to be more balanced was an excellent suggestion.

 

However, with the introduction of several very armored tanks & removal of weakspots everywhere, removing/reworking premium ammo is going to send those heavy-armored tanks OP/broken levels through the roof. Note that quite some of the new heavy armored tanks would be unable to pen themselves when relying on their standard ammo.

The map design changes don't help much either, providing heavy armored tanks with less risk on getting flanked & improving their power levels.

 

My advice is this: learn about armor, angles & penetration mechanics of various shells. Learn to apply this knowledge ingame & you can rock your heavy armored tanks too. Because way too many people blame premium ammo for their lack of skill. There are tanks with problematic premium ammo (the ones where their prem ammo has roughly 100 more pen is really problematic), but most folks simply die by bad armor usage.

 

The Gold! It does nothing!

 


Edited by UrQuan, 11 August 2018 - 09:30 AM.


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View Postibetheonetrunub, on 11 August 2018 - 01:45 AM, said:

I just think it's a stupid outdated concept that needs to be removed/changed. Get to work WarGaming. NOW.

 



Balc0ra #19 Posted 11 August 2018 - 09:48 AM

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View Postibetheonetrunub, on 11 August 2018 - 02:45 AM, said:

I just think it's a stupid outdated concept that needs to be removed/changed. Get to work WarGaming. NOW.

 

And your idea of a change or rework is? 

 

Cus I bet you just spam AP and take it like a man when you see a 268 4 in your stock Type 61 like everyone else right? 



lnfernaI #20 Posted 11 August 2018 - 10:17 AM

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Ahh,every time one of these threads appear,I just have to bring that popcorn I have stashed for a potential zombie apocalypse. And laugh about the flawless logic behind these rants.

Edited by lnfernaI, 11 August 2018 - 10:17 AM.





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