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X_Warlock_X #1 Posted 11 August 2018 - 09:10 PM

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So, Is Grille 15 getting replaced in upcoming patches ?

 

or is it just the rumors and nothing else & it is going to stay there as it is.

 

or is it gonna get replaced by something better.



Balc0ra #2 Posted 11 August 2018 - 09:22 PM

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Players found a different model of it a while back with a bigger turret shield if you will in the game files suddenly marked as a tier X premium. Why? No one knows. As nothing has been said by WG why those models are in the game files since their discovery. So for now, it's only speculations and theories.

 

But exactly one year ago WG said this in a Q&A regarding the Grille 

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 There were a lot of questions regarding the Grille. We were really close to implementing another variant in 9.20 or the next one. We honestly admit that we decided not to hasten it. We have to test more variants in internal tests. That means that drastic changes, or maybe swapping for another tank, should be expected at the end of the year.

 

It's still here a year later. If that new model is related to what they said there? We don't know yet. 


Edited by Balc0ra, 11 August 2018 - 09:23 PM.


Tankyouverymuch2 #3 Posted 11 August 2018 - 11:44 PM

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I think they said it was a mistake. The Grille isn't changing.

XxKuzkina_MatxX #4 Posted 11 August 2018 - 11:52 PM

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There was this article on TAP recently...

 

https://thearmoredpa...-new-grille-15/

 

but some people doubt the authenticity of it!



OdysseusKrieg #5 Posted 12 August 2018 - 12:13 AM

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I don't see why wg would even think to replace that ''sniper'' td,it's a very strong td,takes arty hits like a boss,has great armor,it's clearly better than that garbage that is the 268 v4.

If anything wg should buff the 268 v4,maybe give it a 750 gun with the same rate of fire,and buff premium pen to 421 cause RASHA must be the best da.


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Balc0ra #6 Posted 12 August 2018 - 12:13 AM

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View PostXxKuzkina_MatxX, on 11 August 2018 - 11:52 PM, said:

There was this article on TAP recently...

 

https://thearmoredpa...-new-grille-15/

 

but some people doubt the authenticity of it!

 

NA had a Q&A 2 days ago. They were again asked about the Grille and more or less had this response. 

 

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Balance is a never-ending process and vehicle performance is always being looked at, but at this time there are no immediate plans to make changes to the Grille 15 that I am aware of.

 

 



XxKuzkina_MatxX #7 Posted 12 August 2018 - 12:20 AM

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View PostOdysseusKrieg, on 12 August 2018 - 01:13 AM, said:

I don't see why wg would even think to replace that ''sniper'' td,it's a very strong td,takes arty hits like a boss,has great armor,it's clearly better than that garbage that is the 268 v4.

If anything wg should buff the 268 v4,maybe give it a 750 gun with the same rate of fire,and buff premium pen to 421 cause RASHA must be the best da.

 

And here comes the big one...

 

268v4 have almost twice the camo of the grille at 13.91% compared to 7.8%! :teethhappy:



suvicze #8 Posted 12 August 2018 - 01:08 AM

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Yeah Grille 15 is pretty much just a big pos now. No camo, no armor, aim time and acc useless because of ridiculously bad softstats which are even worse than what T5 heavies with derp gun have. You move that gun a bit and you have aim circle across half your screen and on top of that you have subpar penetration. Only thing this tank has is forward speed on road. I would  rather be playing T10 matches with T9 wt which is superior in everything except forward speed than this.

DeBanus #9 Posted 12 August 2018 - 02:23 AM

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Aside from all the sarcasm mentioned above:

 

The Grille 15 was in a good position before they completly nerfed it to a piece of sh!t, I personally would not even use as a cat litter.

But hey, it's Wargaming we are talking about here. This very company is not really known for decent content, customer service or taking it's customers serious at all.

 

To sumarize, I think the Grille 15 will be a piece of antique, with the only use of collecting dust in my garage. 

 

GG Wargaming!

 



svadilfari #10 Posted 12 August 2018 - 06:10 AM

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grille is the worst TD by far.

the only playstyle is to camp outside 450m and hope your team spots. even then, sniping with the sniper td is extremely frustating.

if you´re spotted, you´re dead.

no armor - hello arty, type 5, british HE

semi traversable turret

bad gun drepression.

tank travese is insanely bad, basically super heavy levels of traverse speed.

 

in short. what the grille does, every other TD can do but far better

(i´m so glad i grinded that tank back in the day...)



DryzzY #11 Posted 12 August 2018 - 06:37 AM

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It wasn't a rumor, they talked about replacing it in a previous 'Developer Diaries' video on YT (https://youtu.be/EbzohhBJU_s?t=18m31s)



Dr_Oolen #12 Posted 12 August 2018 - 08:05 AM

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View Postsvadilfari, on 12 August 2018 - 06:10 AM, said:

grille is the worst TD by far.

the only playstyle is to camp outside 450m and hope your team spots. even then, sniping with the sniper td is extremely frustating.

if you´re spotted, you´re dead.

no armor - hello arty, type 5, british HE

semi traversable turret

bad gun drepression.

tank travese is insanely bad, basically super heavy levels of traverse speed.

 

in short. what the grille does, every other TD can do but far better

(i´m so glad i grinded that tank back in the day...)

 

Pretty much...

 

these days grille would need something like this:

 

- fully traversible turret

- give it back its engine, which was like what, 950 hp rather than current 850?

- unnerf depression, so back to -8

- unnerf shells speed, so from 1200 to 1400

- buff dispersion on turret rotation from 0.4 (which is worse than artillery) to at least 0.2

- buff dispersions on hull traverse/move from 0.3/0.26 (again as bad as artillery) to 0.22/0.22

- buff hull traverse speed from 24 to 32

- buff accuracy from 0.27 to 0.2

- buff base camo from 7.87 (stationary)/4.73 (moving) to at least 13.91/8.32 (which is camo of 268v4, which is just as big of a tank, but also with the best armor at t10) if not 15/9 (which would be slightly worse than 268 and better than 113G-FT)

-nerf top speed from 60 to 45

 

Even then the tank would be mostly terrible due to the meta and other tanks that it would face and still be unable to deal with them/get easily rekt by them, but at least it would actually be better than other tanks at what its supposed to be good at...

 

Still, i would much rather have the t9 waffle as it was first on test server, but buffed accordingly for t10, to be the t10 TD of that line. That in my opinion was well done paper/sniper TD that would be worthy of being a t10 of a bush wanking paper line.

 



Solstad1069 #13 Posted 12 August 2018 - 08:35 AM

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Just bring back the WT auf E100 it fits todays tier 10 meta just perfect.

krismorgan #14 Posted 12 August 2018 - 09:38 AM

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View PostSolstad1069, on 12 August 2018 - 07:35 AM, said:

Just bring back the WT auf E100 it fits todays tier 10 meta just perfect.

 

I was rubbish in it but at least it was fun.

Balc0ra #15 Posted 12 August 2018 - 01:24 PM

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View PostDryzzY, on 12 August 2018 - 06:37 AM, said:

It wasn't a rumor, they talked about replacing it in a previous 'Developer Diaries' video on YT (https://youtu.be/EbzohhBJU_s?t=18m31s)

 

Thar was a plan for a patch over a year ago. And that was either replacing or a drastic change. After that we heard nothing. And since WG have yet to confirm or deny that the current leaked model is related to that. You can still say it's still just a rumor as such until they do. As we don't know if this what was to be for 9.20. Or something new that's set in motion. 



svadilfari #16 Posted 12 August 2018 - 05:04 PM

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View PostDr_Oolen, on 12 August 2018 - 07:05 AM, said:

 

Pretty much...

 

these days grille would need something like this:

 

- fully traversible turret

- give it back its engine, which was like what, 950 hp rather than current 850?

- unnerf depression, so back to -8

- unnerf shells speed, so from 1200 to 1400

- buff dispersion on turret rotation from 0.4 (which is worse than artillery) to at least 0.2

- buff dispersions on hull traverse/move from 0.3/0.26 (again as bad as artillery) to 0.22/0.22

- buff hull traverse speed from 24 to 32

- buff accuracy from 0.27 to 0.2

- buff base camo from 7.87 (stationary)/4.73 (moving) to at least 13.91/8.32 (which is camo of 268v4, which is just as big of a tank, but also with the best armor at t10) if not 15/9 (which would be slightly worse than 268 and better than 113G-FT)

-nerf top speed from 60 to 45

 

Even then the tank would be mostly terrible due to the meta and other tanks that it would face and still be unable to deal with them/get easily rekt by them, but at least it would actually be better than other tanks at what its supposed to be good at...

 

Still, i would much rather have the t9 waffle as it was first on test server, but buffed accordingly for t10, to be the t10 TD of that line. That in my opinion was well done paper/sniper TD that would be worthy of being a t10 of a bush wanking paper line.

 

 

i forgot about the camo lol. is it worst camo of all TDs? may well be.

such a garbage TD it´s really sad.

wt IV is much better tank



Dr_Oolen #17 Posted 12 August 2018 - 09:33 PM

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View Postsvadilfari, on 12 August 2018 - 05:04 PM, said:

 

i forgot about the camo lol. is it worst camo of all TDs? may well be.

such a garbage TD it´s really sad.

wt IV is much better tank

 

no, fv4005 and jpe100 have worse camo (fv183 has better camo)

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grille is good compared to jp fv4005 or 268

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View PostFAME_skill4ltu, on 13 August 2018 - 04:26 AM, said:

grille is good compared to jp fv4005 or 268

 

yes, indeed all availible statistics confirm that grille is better than those 3

 

 

i suppose it being marginally better than those only for players with 56+ wr seals the deal, i mean, if 5% of the players in the game do get 1% more wr in it than in other bad TDs...



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View Postsuvicze, on 12 August 2018 - 12:08 AM, said:

... I would  rather be playing T10 matches with T9 wt which is superior in everything except forward speed than this.

 

Exactly. WT auf PZ IV: That 128 with full APCR is just a dream to play. Like a railgun.

 

I think they forgot their own rule when making auf IV: "German tanks have to be all bad."


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