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Papa_Miki #1 Posted 13 August 2018 - 04:41 AM

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Hello every1,

I just played like 90 games in it and i wanted to share my opinion about it. I think that this tank is in the top 3 worst non prem heavy VIII tanks list.

 

Pro's:

-The Turret seems to work pretty well most of the time (the upgraded version)

-The mobility feels ok but it's not insane

 

Con's:

-The Grind is horrible, until you reach the "ok" tier IX gun you need 80 K xp which is just horrible

-Before you unlock the IX gun you are pretty useless

-Even when shooting gold you wont pen many VIII

-The Aimtime is 3,22 sec

-The Accuracy is 0,44

-most of the tanks today have more pen and better guns then the 110

-It has only -5 gundepression which gets better when you get the IX because you get -6 then

 

I think i said everything that i wanted to say. To sum it up: In general the tank is pretty bad, the armor doesnt work well against most VIII nowadays and the gunhandeling is crap.

All the time when i ask people what they did they say: "I am good and you are bad". I am definetly not the best player but i have the worst WR and WN8 in this tank of all i got (I got quite a bit of tanks).

So basically i just get flamed all the time when i do 0 dmg or just 400 as i get bullied even in the second line. Even when i play the support role i mostly do not hit.

 



Yaccay #2 Posted 13 August 2018 - 05:49 AM

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Papa_Miki #3 Posted 13 August 2018 - 06:09 AM

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Even the TIger 2 is better as he has the same role in general today ( staying in second line and trying to support as the armor is crap nowadays. The problem is that this tank isnt really accurate until you get the IX and it is already pretty bad.

So basically a Tiger 2 works better then the 110 which says quite a lot. Idk how people get 2000wn8 and 60% WR at 200 games  in this tank.



Hedgehog1963 #4 Posted 13 August 2018 - 06:12 AM

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47% WR  suggests Tier VIII is not where you should play WoT

 

I'm trying to be nice here.



Papa_Miki #5 Posted 13 August 2018 - 06:17 AM

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It is always the same answer. lOW WN8 and WR = BOT ofc it.I drive forward

my team sticks behind. I ping 1000 times and they stil snipe and i die 1vs4. Thats how it usually goes.

This origninally was my dads acc. In most tanks i increased the WR by 9 % such as the Löwe (400 batlles 53% WR)

And you still didnt argue for the 110 its always the same with those "unicums" which just says skill here skill there etc. [edited], play your obj 140 and russian bias. As every "Pro" does.



doriansky1 #6 Posted 13 August 2018 - 06:26 AM

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That's why you use free XP. Playing the 110 stock it's unimaginable. I used ~50k free XP to unlock the 110 since IS-2 was simply unplayable for me (because of the gun of course). I know some people enjoy the 122mm gun but for me it's just disgusting to miss shots from 50m.  Will start to play with 110 soon, on paper it's looking like a decent tank: slightly worse version of the IS-3, with a more accurate gun(and less alpha).

 

 



Papa_Miki #7 Posted 13 August 2018 - 06:27 AM

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On paper many tanks are good, ingame they are crap

HonoredStone #8 Posted 13 August 2018 - 06:29 AM

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the 110 is complete sh1t. I think i free xp'd it for about 150k xp. and it was a good decision.

MeNoobTank #9 Posted 13 August 2018 - 09:42 AM

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I invested alot of free xp in this pos. The tank is simply the worst tier 8 heavy. Tiger II is gold compared to this. Tiger II has bad armor and mobility but has a good gun. 110 has bad armor and mobility with bad gun combo.

 

The top gun is very very bad, it dosen't feel like an upgrade from the 122 mm one. It has lower damage per shot and still bad pen with the same bad gun handling. I would better play with the stock 122 mm with full HEAT than with the 100 mm c**p.

 

Also IS-2 was an awesome tank, not sure why most of the people says is bad. It is not. I am now grinding the tier 9 WZ and is even worse than 110 because I still need to use that c**p gun but a tier higher. I have something like 32% win/rate in it.



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View Postdoriansky1, on 13 August 2018 - 05:26 AM, said:

That's why you use free XP. Playing the 110 stock it's unimaginable. I used ~50k free XP to unlock the 110 since IS-2 was simply unplayable for me (because of the gun of course). I know some people enjoy the 122mm gun but for me it's just disgusting to miss shots from 50m.  Will start to play with 110 soon, on paper it's looking like a decent tank: slightly worse version of the IS-3, with a more accurate gun(and less alpha).

 

 

 

played the IS2 with HE, wich is okish as you are unable to pen anything a tier or more above you with gold reliably and am expecting to do so aswell in the 110 untill i get the last 110 gun.

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View PostPapa_Miki, on 13 August 2018 - 06:17 AM, said:

It is always the same answer. lOW WN8 and WR = BOT ofc it.I drive forward

my team sticks behind. I ping 1000 times and they stil snipe and i die 1vs4. Thats how it usually goes.

This origninally was my dads acc. In most tanks i increased the WR by 9 % such as the Löwe (400 batlles 53% WR)

And you still didnt argue for the 110 its always the same with those "unicums" which just says skill here skill there etc. [edited], play your obj 140 and russian bias. As every "Pro" does.

 

Great. So not only are you a terrible player who is a detriment to every team you play in, you're also one of those obnoxious map-spammers. Oh joy. 



TheR3dBaron #12 Posted 13 August 2018 - 10:57 AM

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View PostPapa_Miki, on 13 August 2018 - 06:17 AM, said:

It is always the same answer. lOW WN8 and WR = BOT ofc it.I drive forward

my team sticks behind. I ping 1000 times and they stil snipe and i die 1vs4. Thats how it usually goes.

This origninally was my dads acc. In most tanks i increased the WR by 9 % such as the Löwe (400 batlles 53% WR)

And you still didnt argue for the 110 its always the same with those "unicums" which just says skill here skill there etc. [edited], play your obj 140 and russian bias. As every "Pro" does.

 

Your recent WR is lower than your overall WR ...

There is also a rule in WoT. Don't go alone. If nobody reacts after 2 pings, move back.

 

Back to the 110. It's been a while since I've played, so I guess it got power-creeped. However, I don't remember it being a bad tank. Given the armour is not fool-proof, like an IS-3/Defender, you can try to support the medium flank. If you find some hulldown positions, you can use them, but the gun depression does make that tricky.

 

My verdict: 7,5/10



Kommandant_Mia #13 Posted 13 August 2018 - 11:02 AM

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TVP want's a word.  

But I do agree,  this tank needs a serious update.

Browarszky #14 Posted 13 August 2018 - 11:09 AM

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It's 110% crap.



pihip #15 Posted 13 August 2018 - 11:10 AM

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Can agree that the top 100mm gun is horribly overpriced in terms of xp needed and the stock grind is brutal, otherwise I have fond memories of the 110 (said so before, but I liked it much more than IS-3), but have yet to play it in HD in today's meta so can't comment on its current performance.

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I need to say smth right now. I got the IX gun 100mm finally and i need to say it is a blast to play. 23 games 70% WR. The grind makes it crapand the MM even worse.

But in general if you can kinda defend yourself your armor doesnt need to work out so much for you. Sidescraping works and i can finally punish IX and X. Sad thing the grind is horrible.

Once you unlocked the top gun you can acctually use this tank, now you can punish people so that you dont get bullied by every1. The accuracy also feels a lot better but still, they need to fix this tank somehow as you need like 100 games with boosters and prem time to unlock it which is too much but WG and fixing smth where they would lose money hmm wont happen.


Edited by Papa_Miki, 13 August 2018 - 11:33 AM.


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View PostHedgehog1963, on 13 August 2018 - 05:12 AM, said:

47% WR  suggests Tier VIII is not where you should play WoT

 

I'm trying to be nice here.

 

Have to say I'm currently doing the 110 grind myself and the tank is total trash, doesn't do anything well.

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It should not be a surprise that stock tank sucks.  I found the 110 to be fine, and indeed quite fun to play when it is kitted out.

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View Postilhilh, on 13 August 2018 - 11:33 AM, said:

It should not be a surprise that stock tank sucks.  I found the 110 to be fine, and indeed quite fun to play when it is kitted out.

 

Well, the problem is that compared to other tanks the 110 has one of the worst grinds and the XP you need for the IX gun is kinda high cuz in total you need 80k xp and to farm this with the 122mm you need to really play a lost as your 175 pen will bounce most VIII. Like i said before, I just love the 110 right now idk why. It is just a nice mix of a tank and i had no game with lower dmg then 1.5k in around 30 games now. So, i need to say that in my opinion the grind should be fixed and then it is awesome. The IX really feels good. Maybe i just found a tank i love and there you can see that i am not a super bad bot.


Edited by Papa_Miki, 13 August 2018 - 12:01 PM.


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View PostHedgehog1963, on 13 August 2018 - 06:12 AM, said:

47% WR  suggests Tier VIII is not where you should play WoT

 

I'm trying to be nice here.

 

Let's pretend you'd have an amazing winrate in it being stock and not full-gold loadout :D

110 sucks even when upgraded. I managed to learn to play it and got it to 51%, but it still sucked hairy balls






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