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Community #1 Posted 17 August 2018 - 06:00 AM

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_danik_ #2 Posted 17 August 2018 - 06:10 AM

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Will it work if in each battle I will invite players to a platoon

Shadowfang #3 Posted 17 August 2018 - 06:27 AM

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Are platon members suposed to use the same tiers?

feies_vlad #4 Posted 17 August 2018 - 06:59 AM

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Lol WG, amx 13 57 "standard package", bundled with 3000 gold, triple facepalm...

BSHDBCG #5 Posted 17 August 2018 - 07:32 AM

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So a weekend without any bonus at all? :unsure:

 

Guess I can take the weekend off for a change. :trollface:



Vtsuk #6 Posted 17 August 2018 - 07:48 AM

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Which of the two tanks do you think it

fits the role of crew trainer better?



Cobra6 #7 Posted 17 August 2018 - 07:56 AM

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Well, the EVEN90 is not worth the money until it's made competitive.

It's camo is cool but that won't win you matches, you need proper firepower for that as you'll need to do damage. Currently it's tragic DPM and atrocious gunhandling are such handicapping factors that only great players can make this tank work consistently as there are so many problems you need to compensate for in your gameplay.

 

The AMX 13 57 on the other hand is very well balanced as a light tank and certainly worth picking up. Here is my review on the thing to help you make the choice.

 

And a bonus video:

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Cobra 6


Edited by Cobra6, 17 August 2018 - 07:57 AM.


morganakis_gr #8 Posted 17 August 2018 - 08:17 AM

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View PostCobra6, on 17 August 2018 - 06:56 AM, said:

Well, the EVEN90 is not worth the money until it's made competitive.

It's camo is cool but that won't win you matches, you need proper firepower for that as you'll need to do damage. Currently it's tragic DPM and atrocious gunhandling are such handicapping factors that only great players can make this tank work consistently as there are so many problems you need to compensate for in your gameplay.

 

The AMX 13 57 on the other hand is very well balanced as a light tank and certainly worth picking up. Here is my review on the thing to help you make the choice.

 

And a bonus video:

Spoiler

Cobra 6

 

great videos ,,,, did you manage to get 3rd gunmark on any of them?? i reach 2 times at 92% and then the losing strike hit me hard :)

BR33K1_PAWAH #9 Posted 17 August 2018 - 08:17 AM

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Good, i'll definitely need those reserves for next month Top of the tree.

Zamieszki #10 Posted 17 August 2018 - 08:28 AM

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k

 

no wot this weekend



Cobra6 #11 Posted 17 August 2018 - 08:38 AM

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View Postmorganakis_gr, on 17 August 2018 - 07:17 AM, said:

 

great videos ,,,, did you manage to get 3rd gunmark on any of them?? i reach 2 times at 92% and then the losing strike hit me hard :)

 

Thanks!

 

No actually I haven't, stopped actively playing WoT a couple of months ago and taking my 3rd-4th long break from it. Playing some other games at the moment which I get far more enjoyment out of.

WoT's frustrating (by design) mechanics built up to their maximum BS threshold again so I stopped playing for a while.

 

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_Sensation_ #12 Posted 17 August 2018 - 08:40 AM

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Shitty ''special'' some reserves and large repair kits yeah great

 

Aswell selling the 13 57 :facepalm:



Zamieszki #13 Posted 17 August 2018 - 09:13 AM

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View PostCobra6, on 17 August 2018 - 07:56 AM, said:

The AMX 13 57 on the other hand is very well balanced as a light tank

 

buahahahahhahahahahaha

Gremlin182 #14 Posted 17 August 2018 - 09:21 AM

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Might take part depends on how games go whether you can platoon in game for the missions etc.

Not a fan of organised teams more interested in making the 15 man team work rather than forming sub teams with different objectives.

 

2 fairly decent light tanks personally I think the 13-57 is the better light tank certainly much easier to play.

 

The even 90 has good potential but its a tier higher and crippled by the design team

Some stats are misleading in this game DPM is one and a tanks actual speed in the game is another.

The 13-57 has a better DPM but much lower pen and damage, DPM assumes every shot penetrates, they could make a tank with a pen of 10 mm and a rate of fire in the Hundreds

The DPM would be amazing till you realise most shots do not damage at all.

 

On paper the Even 90 has a good gun but a 3 shot clip long time between shots and excessively long clip reload means its not that competitive especially at tier 8.

It has one thing going for it and thats its camo and I am afraid that is not enough.

 

The ELC series of which so far as I know the AMX ELC Bis is the only surviving example has a 250 hp engine.

So did the one in the game till they redid light tanks and decided the ELC would stay at its tier and be nearly nerfed out of existance.

Its got a fully rotating turret with the 75mm gun semi with the 90mm but its sluggish because of the 160hp engine 90hp less than the historical tank .

 

The Even 90 3 tiers higher than the Bis only has a 180 and again its not enough

Problem seems to be the weight of these tanks 6.7 tons and engine power 160 and 180 their power to weight is on paper good 23.8 and 26.6 top speed also decent 70 and 60.

Yet when it translates into the game both tanks are slow to get up to speed and anything stronger than a blade of grass slows them down.

A 6-7 ton tank doing 60 hitting a wooden fence in someones garden does not lose half its speed, except the Even 90 does just that.

 

Heavier tanks with worse specific power get up to speed faster maintain that speed better

Its about time wargaming found a better way of telling players the performance of a tank other than its speed which is sometimes pure fantasy.

Just as DPM is only true if every shell fired hits and does damage speed is only accurate when driving a long enough distance on good ground with no turns.

For some of the tanks I have bought add on a down slope with a full gale blowing to help push you along.

 

Rant over

AMX Even 90 ok for good players but you have to be able to make it work "still not that great"

13-57 excellent light tank

 



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View PostZamieszki, on 17 August 2018 - 09:13 AM, said:

 

buahahahahhahahahahaha

 

Yep it's Cobra code for best in tier light tank

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View PostZamieszki, on 17 August 2018 - 09:13 AM, said:

 

buahahahahhahahahahaha

 

Perhaps he meant that it's in a place where the lights should be and that the others are too weak. 

SlyMeerkat #17 Posted 17 August 2018 - 09:33 AM

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Cobra6 #18 Posted 17 August 2018 - 10:02 AM

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View PostZamieszki, on 17 August 2018 - 08:13 AM, said:

 

buahahahahhahahahahaha

 

View PostDel059, on 17 August 2018 - 08:22 AM, said:

 

Yep it's Cobra code for best in tier light tank

 

Just because you get slaughtered by them when you are playing your own tank wrong and not looking at the minimap/line-up, doesn't mean a tank is broken or overpowered. It just means you need to improve.

 

Actually, comparing my performance in the 13 57 to other T7 light tanks like the Type62 and T71DA but also the WZ-131 and SP1C, it's fairly equal.

All of them just under 1300 average damage per battle and ~60% win rate.

 

In other words, a balanced light tank.

Heck, I perform better in my Comet, T-34/100, T23E3 with close to 1400 average damage.

 

 

View Post8126Jakobsson, on 17 August 2018 - 08:23 AM, said:

 

Perhaps he meant that it's in a place where the lights should be and that the others are too weak. 

 

Indeed, this is what light tanks should be, fast, good camo and guns which are actually on par with guns of same tier mediums.

 

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Edited by Cobra6, 17 August 2018 - 10:07 AM.


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View PostCobra6, on 17 August 2018 - 10:02 AM, said:

 

 

Actually, comparing my performance in the 13 57 to other T7 light tanks like the Type62 and T71DA but also the WZ-131 and SP1C, it's fairly equal.

All of them just under 1300 average damage per battle and ~60% win rate.

 

In other words, a balanced light tank.

 

Just because you get slaughtered by them when you are playing your own tank wrong and not looking at the minimap/line-up, doesn't mean a tank is broken or overpowered. It just means you need to improve.

 

 

 

Indeed, this is what light tanks should be, fast, good camo and guns which are actually on par with guns of same tier mediums.

 

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Just like the WT auf E100 right? But that tank wasn't OP either :harp:



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View PostCobra6, on 17 August 2018 - 09:38 AM, said:

 

Thanks!

 

No actually I haven't, stopped actively playing WoT a couple of months ago and taking my 3rd-4th long break from it. Playing some other games at the moment which I get far more enjoyment out of.

WoT's frustrating (by design) mechanics built up to their maximum BS threshold again so I stopped playing for a while.

 

Cobra 6

 

Good choice, this game is extremly based on rng and match making. If Rng is against you and mm put you always in bad team you are finished. I can wait for anno 1800 to apear and take a brake from wot. This game is so frustrating many times.




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