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ivanvani4 #1 Posted 01 September 2018 - 02:05 AM

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If you go and snoop around my Service Record, you'd see that i'm a fairly new player. Tried being more... competitive, let's say, but until now, i've given up on tryharding and trying to be the best or whatever due to arty, bots, idiotic teammates, lack of teamplay, you name it. That's why i've chosen to lay back and play this game as casually as possible, which brings me to this question:

What tanks to research ?

Right now, i've been grinding up to the IS-3 without any other tank being played. From the T-26 trough KV-1S to IS-3, only that path. Not that i'm bored of playing the IS-3, it's a fun tank, but i want some variety. Which tanks would you suggest for me to research alongside the IS-3 ? Preferably Light or Medium tanks, something that won't make me pull my hairs out from frustration while playing with it, like i did with the T-28. Cheers!



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Arty.

 

Go for the US line.

 

Know your enemy.



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View PostHomer_J, on 01 September 2018 - 02:20 AM, said:

Arty.

 

Go for the US line.

 

Know your enemy.

 

Seconded. Very comfortable line to play.



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View PostHomer_J, on 01 September 2018 - 01:20 AM, said:

Arty.

 

Go for the US line.

 

Know your enemy.

 

When i meant: "Play it casually", i didn't mean click every 20 seconds or so. I find arty to be frustrating when you're against it and boring when you are the arty. Plus, i've already tried, got up to M7 Priest and just gave up, didn't find any fun in it.

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T28 is great fast med, T28htc is even better TD.

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View Postivanvani4, on 01 September 2018 - 04:33 AM, said:

 

When i meant: "Play it casually", i didn't mean click every 20 seconds or so. I find arty to be frustrating when you're against it and boring when you are the arty. Plus, i've already tried, got up to M7 Priest and just gave up, didn't find any fun in it.

 

The low tiers are pretty frustrating, they don't stun and they don't do any damage.  Keep at it a bit longer, at least get the M44, if it's no fun then there's something wrong with you.

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Hello there.

 

If you various tank classes, but something to learn the game with, id recommend:

 

KV-1, T-150, T34-85, Cromwell, M6, VK 36.01 H, IS, T29. This is a short list of, in my opinion some of best starting tanks for noobs to learn stuff  ;-)

 

And Id recommend you to stay on tiers 5-7 for sometime, to learn things on these tiers. Higher tiers are usually harder to play, players/enemies are or at least should be better/more experienced, and your mentioned IS-3, while being great noob-proof tank, curently suffers from broken tier 8 MM. Tier8s have now problem of having way to much battles in tier X.



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View Postivanvani4, on 01 September 2018 - 02:05 AM, said:

If you go and snoop around my Service Record, you'd see that i'm a fairly new player. Tried being more... competitive, let's say, but until now, i've given up on tryharding and trying to be the best or whatever due to arty, bots, idiotic teammates, lack of teamplay, you name it. That's why i've chosen to lay back and play this game as casually as possible, which brings me to this question:

What tanks to research ?

Right now, i've been grinding up to the IS-3 without any other tank being played. From the T-26 trough KV-1S to IS-3, only that path. Not that i'm bored of playing the IS-3, it's a fun tank, but i want some variety. Which tanks would you suggest for me to research alongside the IS-3 ? Preferably Light or Medium tanks, something that won't make me pull my hairs out from frustration while playing with it, like i did with the T-28. Cheers!

 

Use your T34-85M to train a solid Soviet MT crew and start going up the 140 tree. T-34-85 is solid although worse than the M. T-43 is a very strong tier 7 MT and the T-44 and T-54 are probably the best tier 8 and Tier 9 MT in the game. I would hold off playing LTs until I got a better grip on the game but if you want to give it a try I would suggest the Chinese LTs as a good beginner tree. 

 

 



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View PostErwin_Chan, on 01 September 2018 - 04:26 AM, said:

Hello there.

 

If you various tank classes, but something to learn the game with, id recommend:

 

KV-1, T-150, T34-85, Cromwell, M6, VK 36.01 H, IS, T29. This is a short list of, in my opinion some of best starting tanks for noobs to learn stuff  ;-)

 

And Id recommend you to stay on tiers 5-7 for sometime, to learn things on these tiers. Higher tiers are usually harder to play, players/enemies are or at least should be better/more experienced, and your mentioned IS-3, while being great noob-proof tank, curently suffers from broken tier 8 MM. Tier8s have now problem of having way to much battles in tier X.

 

Haven't had much problem with the IS-3. I mean, yeah, it's not really fun when you get a a juicy 1000+ HEAT shell from a Jagdpanzer E100, but i got to learn to prioritize and wait for opportunities with that tank (yes, at Tier VIII, THAT late). Out of the Cromwell and T29, which one would you personally prefer ? If you list why, it would be even better!
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View PostJocMeister, on 01 September 2018 - 04:30 AM, said:

 

Use your T34-85M to train a solid Soviet MT crew and start going up the 140 tree. T-34-85 is solid although worse than the M. T-43 is a very strong tier 7 MT and the T-44 and T-54 are probably the best tier 8 and Tier 9 MT in the game. I would hold off playing LTs until I got a better grip on the game but if you want to give it a try I would suggest the Chinese LTs as a good beginner tree. 

 

 

 

Sounds interesting. I'd give it a go at some point, thanks!

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View Postivanvani4, on 01 September 2018 - 05:33 AM, said:

 

Haven't had much problem with the IS-3. I mean, yeah, it's not really fun when you get a a juicy 1000+ HEAT shell from a Jagdpanzer E100, but i got to learn to prioritize and wait for opportunities with that tank (yes, at Tier VIII, THAT late). Out of the Cromwell and T29, which one would you personally prefer ? If you list why, it would be even better!

 

T29 every day. Its the best tier 7 HT with a turret that tier 9s cant pen with gold. Good gun depression and decent gun handling. Its a lovely tank. Cromwell on the other hand....its fast, nimble and...thats about it. Low alpha gun with horrible gun handling. At least for me the abysmal gun handling makes it just awful to play.  

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Well that depens..

 

Cromwell is fast medium with decent quick firing gun, and also its one of the players favourite tier6 mediums, but just like many low tier mediums its armor is made of swiss cheese.

 

T29 is really great tier7 heavy, and probably one of the best, if not the best tier7 heavy. If you find good hulldown position and show only your turret, this tank is really a steel beast, and turret is so strong that even higher tiers will bounce you (cupola is weakspot, but not that easy to hit). And top gun is good as well. Good penetration on standart rounds + 320 alpha damage make a solid combination. Just remember that mostly every tank is just bad in stock config, so dont get frustrated if you will have bad battles without top modules. Cheers and good luck.

 

edit: In general, heavy tanks are better to learn the stuff, because they have some armor and can forgive you some mistakes, unlike paper mediums.


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This one:

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And the whole line after it. Just dont play tier 4, skip it with  your free xp.



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View PostJocMeister, on 01 September 2018 - 04:37 AM, said:

 

T29 every day. Its the best tier 7 HT with a turret that tier 9s cant pen with gold. Good gun depression and decent gun handling. Its a lovely tank. Cromwell on the other hand....its fast, nimble and...thats about it. Low alpha gun with horrible gun handling. At least for me the abysmal gun handling makes it just awful to play.  

 

Right then, T29 and T-44/T-54 it is!

Thanks for the suggestions.



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View PostBR33K1_PAWAH, on 01 September 2018 - 05:43 AM, said:

This one:

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And the whole line after it. Just dont play tier 4, skip it with  your free xp.

 

Playing LTs and autoloaders in particular as a new player with barely 1k battles is a very bad idea.

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It is. I can tell from my own tomato experience, that trying light tanks or something like french autoloaders, with paper armor and size of a barn, is very bad idea.

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View PostJocMeister, on 01 September 2018 - 07:45 AM, said:

 

Playing LTs and autoloaders in particular as a new player with barely 1k battles is a very bad idea.

 

Let me disagree with you here. First, fast, mobile and overall strong vehicles from this line is fun to play with, and fun is what TS asks for. Second, imo to learn how to play WoT one must start playing meds or lights.
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And another advice for ts: grind at least 1 line from every tank type in the game. That way you will be able to quickly complete first campaign missions, which will earn you a lot of credits and more importantly - female tankers, which u should use as a commanders in your new tanks so u dont have to grind for crucial Sixth Sense perk.

You already have a good heavy, so just pick a good line for each other type. For example: americans for arty, french for lights, germans for TD and soviets for meds.


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View PostBR33K1_PAWAH, on 01 September 2018 - 05:59 AM, said:

 

 

Let me disagree with you here. First, fast, mobile and overall strong vehicles from this line is fun to play with, and fun is what TS asks for. Second, imo to learn how to play WoT one must start playing meds or lights.

 

MTs yes. LTs no. 

 

LTs are the hardest class in WoT to play well. You need a very good understanding of the game and the mechanics. You need to know the maps, where to go and what to do. You need a good crew and you need to have a very good map awareness to be effective. A new player doesn´t have any of those. LTs are fast, and mobile as you say..which is not always a positive thing for a new player. And with a few exceptions they are far from strong...

 

Autoloaders require a very special playstyle that differs a lot from "normal" tanks which is why its a bad idea to try them as a new player.


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View PostJocMeister, on 01 September 2018 - 08:13 AM, said:

 

Autoloaders require a very special playstyle that differs a lot from "normal" tanks which is why its a bad idea to try them as a new player.

 

But autoloaders have great synergy with LTs mobility, which lets you punish your enemys for their mistakes realy hard. It's much easier for autoloader lt to deal an impactful damage in a fight, that's why i suggested french line for lights.



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View PostBR33K1_PAWAH, on 01 September 2018 - 06:55 AM, said:

 

But autoloaders have great synergy with LTs mobility, which lets you punish your enemys for their mistakes realy hard. It's much easier for autoloader lt to deal an impactful damage in a fight, that's why i suggested french line for lights.

 

 

Sure, for an experienced and good player that is true. Not for a bad and/or inexperienced player. Why do you think bad players always fail in autoloaders? Even when they might have 10k+ battles? Because they are hard to play. Just like LTs they require very good map awareness and understanding of the game. 

 

I still stand by what I said. LTs and autoloaders are the 2 worst things a new player can play. They are hard to play, require great knowledge of the game and a fair amount of skill to play and do well in. New players should stick to strong tanks and mid tiers which are forgiving. Preferably well armored tanks.



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View Postivanvani4, on 01 September 2018 - 05:33 AM, said:

 

When i meant: "Play it casually", i didn't mean click every 20 seconds or so. I find arty to be frustrating when you're against it and boring when you are the arty. Plus, i've already tried, got up to M7 Priest and just gave up, didn't find any fun in it.

Then go for the British arty. you can click once every 35 seconds

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View PostBR33K1_PAWAH, on 01 September 2018 - 07:55 AM, said:

 

But autoloaders have great synergy with LTs mobility, which lets you punish your enemys for their mistakes realy hard. It's much easier for autoloader lt to deal an impactful damage in a fight, that's why i suggested french line for lights.

 

As Jocmeister stated below you, Auto-loaders need the skill of an experienced player. You must know when and where you emerge, clip your target and retreat. I would suggest gong for the meds.




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