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zlaja031 #1 Posted 02 September 2018 - 05:19 PM

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Bots outspotting LTs. Type64 fully loaded (food, improved stuff, 5skill crew) outspotted by *edited* :angry:

 

 

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Dava_117 #2 Posted 02 September 2018 - 05:29 PM

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View Postzlaja031, on 02 September 2018 - 05:19 PM, said:

Bots outspotting LTs. Type64 fully loaded (food, improved stuff, 5skill crew) outspotted by *edited* :angry:

 

 

 

 

 

Can you post a replay or at least the complete screenshot? It may be that it was not the arty spotting you. Actually it's likely that it wasn't considering the VR difference...

zlaja031 #3 Posted 02 September 2018 - 05:31 PM

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View PostDava_117, on 02 September 2018 - 04:29 PM, said:

 

Can you post a replay or at least the complete screenshot? It may be that it was not the arty spotting you. Actually it's likely that it wasn't considering the VR difference...

 

He is. Replays are turned off. 

AliceUnchained #4 Posted 02 September 2018 - 05:31 PM

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Agreed, this kind of non-constructive nonsense posting has to stop. Reported, get lost.

 

Edit: And at 49% win rate you're no better than those you refer to as BOTs really.


Edited by AliceUnchained, 02 September 2018 - 05:45 PM.


Dava_117 #5 Posted 02 September 2018 - 05:34 PM

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View Postzlaja031, on 02 September 2018 - 05:31 PM, said:

 

He is. Replays are turned off. 

 

How can you be sure? We have nothing to help you with that pic. No team composition, no minimap, no match score. Anything usefull apart your wrect and an arty spotted, probably after he fired on you. 

Solstad1069 #6 Posted 02 September 2018 - 05:36 PM

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I would outspot you behind a bush with binos (that i have) in my Lefh.

Not sure about this arty, but as said above could have been somone else, for that we need the whole picture.

 

Btw, he has a 48% winrate, you have 49%


Edited by Solstad1069, 02 September 2018 - 05:37 PM.


zlaja031 #7 Posted 02 September 2018 - 05:37 PM

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View PostDava_117, on 02 September 2018 - 04:34 PM, said:

 

How can you be sure? We have nothing to help you with that pic. No team composition, no minimap, no match score. Anything usefull apart your wrect and an arty spotted, probably after he fired on you. 

 

I can because arty has some magic camo and bushes are way to dense.

 



Solstad1069 #8 Posted 02 September 2018 - 05:40 PM

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IF the enemy Type 64 have moved up next to enemy Hetzer can he spot you?

zlaja031 #9 Posted 02 September 2018 - 05:45 PM

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View PostSolstad1069, on 02 September 2018 - 04:40 PM, said:

IF the enemy Type 64 have moved up next to enemy Hetzer can he spot you?

 

He isn't. Later on he was at the base (our).

 

Next game on that new map, GWPanter did the same thing (last man standing). 

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View PostAliceUnchained, on 02 September 2018 - 04:31 PM, said:

Agreed, this kind of non-constructive nonsense posting has to stop. Reported, get lost.

 

Edit: And at 49% win rate you're no better than those you refer to as BOTs really.

 

Say hi to GM for me ;) 

Dava_117 #10 Posted 02 September 2018 - 05:49 PM

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View Postzlaja031, on 02 September 2018 - 05:37 PM, said:

 

I can because arty has some magic camo and bushes are way to dense.

 

 

This already add some details. We can see that 3 of the 5 enemy tanks are spotted. 

So, 14TP can't phisically spot you. Hetzer looks a bit too far, especially since it got bad VR, but without a replay we can't really tell. Finally arty is close to you.

Now, we can also notice that both KV-2 and enemy Type64 are unspotted. KV-2 is quite far and unlikely to outspot you, but the Type64 was not that far from the middle line when became unspotted. And both SU-85 and your arty can't spot him. So here a question: did you watched the game after your death? If yes, what did that Type64?

Beimg it's tier 4 LT near arty and with KV-2 presumibly close to your base too, he may have come back to the middle ridge to passively spot for its hetzer and arty. From there he may have spotted you while standing behind a bush, preventing you from spotting him back.

Then maybe the arty was behind bushes, enought close to spot you clearly while you had to add the abushes cammo to arty already good one.


Edited by Dava_117, 02 September 2018 - 05:51 PM.


AliceUnchained #11 Posted 02 September 2018 - 05:51 PM

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View Postzlaja031, on 02 September 2018 - 05:45 PM, said:

He isn't. Later on he was at the base (our).

 

Next game on that new map, GWPanter did the same thing (last man standing). 

 

You have no way of knowing. Provide a replay, or sod off.



vixu #12 Posted 02 September 2018 - 05:59 PM

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so.... on this account you dont have type64

Homer_J #13 Posted 02 September 2018 - 06:00 PM

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View Postzlaja031, on 02 September 2018 - 05:31 PM, said:

 

He is. Replays are turned off. 

 

Turn them on, I guarantee it will fix all these issues you are having.  It always does.

Solstad1069 #14 Posted 02 September 2018 - 06:00 PM

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Type 64 could basicly do this within 30 seconds.

 

 

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the_nebuchadnezzar #15 Posted 02 September 2018 - 06:03 PM

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It's obvious you have the replay but I assume you won't show it to us cause you said some "nice" thing in chat, most likely after you got killed. So, replay or gtfo...

samuelx43a #16 Posted 02 September 2018 - 06:12 PM

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you have enough battles to understand how the double bush mechanic works right?

 

that is how some arties get away from targets being that close to them, or you can't find that swed TD that is sneakily hiding somewhere.

 

that has nothing to do with that nonsense you just said



MaxxyNL #17 Posted 02 September 2018 - 06:13 PM

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View Postzlaja031, on 02 September 2018 - 06:19 PM, said:

outspotted by *edited*  

 

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Jigabachi #18 Posted 02 September 2018 - 06:41 PM

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Yes, there are various things that you should stop doing:

- Being an immature brat.

- Calling other players of your skilllevel "bots".

- Referring to... basically anything as "cancer".

- Raging about nuissances.

- Starting pointless whinethreads.

 

 



PervyPastryPuffer #19 Posted 02 September 2018 - 06:41 PM

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Here, use this: http://www.wotinfo.net/en/camo-calculator

 

I fully "kitted out" your Type 64 and his Pz.Sfl. IVb, surprise surprise he would be able to spot you a few meters before you spot him IF he's in a dense bush with camo net and binos active on a fully skilled crew.

 

Just a quickie: did you fire your gun before he hit you?

 

Edit: Looking at his battle count, and the average tier, it's very possible he's played thousands of battles in that arty. Check if that's the case, just to prove the above (the fact he's got a better crew).


Edited by Tankyouverymuch2, 02 September 2018 - 06:46 PM.


Balc0ra #20 Posted 02 September 2018 - 06:58 PM

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Idk why you posted his stats. It's not like that stat difference will make his camo worse or easier to spot. Or are you suggesting that spotting abilities should be reflected to WN8? If he has camo skills, camo net on his arty, and binocs. And a bush cover that negates your view range. You don't even need high WN8 to spot anything moving towards you in the open. Arty or not. 

 

 

I'm just gonna leave this here. Both have camo skills, recon and camo paint. Type has optics and arty has binocs. Type don't have camo net as he is the moving target here. Arty does. Then you add the bush cover he has and you don't. As that is the vital factor here. If he was in the open like you, all that would count for nothing. But he was not in the open. And then your view range counts for nothing vs his camo rating. 

 

Spoiler

 

Now you can argue that his camo should not be that high for an arty. Point is... equipment and crew skills will compensate for player skills now and then. Heck he can have used bonds on the camo skill that adds even more for all we know. You thought it would not and the "tomato" would never see you coming. You got to eager and high on your own skill. And he got you on that. Simple as that. 

 

Then again... My premium Sexton I "only" has 28% camo rating. But 428m view range..... and AP shells. As it's a pre nerf premium, just like your Type. 


Edited by Balc0ra, 02 September 2018 - 07:02 PM.





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