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chillsnotskills #1 Posted 03 September 2018 - 12:11 PM

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What do you guys use? Only hesh? Ap? Is ordinary HE worth it?

Enforcer1975 #2 Posted 03 September 2018 - 12:18 PM

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HE AP HESH
Don't remember the exact amount but left is what i have the most of. 99% of the time i throw HE at enemy tanks....they are enough to break f.e. bobjects so your team can handle them.

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View Postchillsnotskills, on 03 September 2018 - 02:11 PM, said:

What do you guys use? Only hesh? Ap? Is ordinary HE worth it?

 

I'm writing for FV 215b (183) but I think they're both are same.

 

HESH is the most unreliable bullet in the game. Mostly (8/10) it damages like HE, because too low penetration.

8000 credits and nearly 30 seconds reload for 500-600 dmg not for me.

 

My loadout: 8 AP / 2 HESH / 10 HE. 

T8-T10 game: load AP first

T10 game: load HE first

T9-T10 game: according to the tanks in the match

when penetration is guaranteed: load HESH



Simeon85 #4 Posted 03 September 2018 - 12:20 PM

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On the deathstar since they buffed the ammo amount I use about 12 premium HESH and about 8 AP IIRC.

 

Really on these two tanks you should mainly be using premium HESH most of the time because that is what these tanks are basically balanced around. AP is for like kill confirming against targets you know you are going to pen and are sub say 900 hit points. 



chillsnotskills #5 Posted 03 September 2018 - 12:24 PM

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Can ordinary HE do solid ampunt of damage?

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View Postchillsnotskills, on 03 September 2018 - 02:24 PM, said:

Can ordinary HE do solid ampunt of damage?

 

Without penetration, HE=HESH

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Since the upgraded the ammo capacity of the 183 tanks HESH-only isn't the smartest loadout anymore. If you're dealing with thick armor (Superheavies) the AP is better than the HESH (always fun to hit Types for 1000+). If you don't care about credits you can skip the regular HE as it is identical to the HESH just with less penetration. But you can load 3-4 rounds for those low-HP targets where penetration is irrelevant.

 

View Postchillsnotskills, on 03 September 2018 - 01:24 PM, said:

Can ordinary HE do solid ampunt of damage?

 

HE does the same damage as HESH. It just won't penetrate most armors, so you'll rarely see those 1500+ hits.


Edited by Geno1isme, 03 September 2018 - 12:27 PM.


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View PostSimeon85, on 03 September 2018 - 12:20 PM, said:

On the deathstar since they buffed the ammo amount I use about 12 premium HESH and about 8 AP IIRC.

 

Really on these two tanks you should mainly be using premium HESH most of the time because that is what these tanks are basically balanced around. AP is for like kill confirming against targets you know you are going to pen and are sub say 900 hit points. 

 

The Loadout is like mine, but ... you can play differently.

The AP has 310 Pen (and the 4005 has better gun Handling as DeathStar btw) and you do on Average 1150 Damage. For tougher Targets (lets say E100) you can get with HESH ~600 Damage - AP is much better here.

Sure, you have a Chance to bounce, but trade 1150 against 600 when you pen. So, when you go to support Heavy Line and think you can pen most of the tanks with AP - go for it.

 

Edit: Geno was faster - again :(


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View Postchillsnotskills, on 03 September 2018 - 12:24 PM, said:

Can ordinary HE do solid ampunt of damage?

 

Same as non penetrated HESH.

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View Postchillsnotskills, on 03 September 2018 - 12:24 PM, said:

Can ordinary HE do solid ampunt of damage?

It's not just the hp damage....the module damage is just brutal. 

HESH just isn't cost effective imo. 



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After the loadout buff. I run 50/50 on AP and HESH. I tend to run more AP in pure tier X games with mostly super heavies etc. Unless I know I get the side or rear. 

Igor_BL #12 Posted 03 September 2018 - 12:51 PM

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16/4 HESH/AP

 

if you use HE, you are playing that tank wrong



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15/5 HESH/AP

Don't buy the tank if you can't afford to play it properly. This goes for the 183 too



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View Postseppc76, on 03 September 2018 - 12:26 PM, said:

 

The Loadout is like mine, but ... you can play differently.

The AP has 310 Pen (and the 4005 has better gun Handling as DeathStar btw) and you do on Average 1150 Damage. For tougher Targets (lets say E100) you can get with HESH ~600 Damage - AP is much better here.

Sure, you have a Chance to bounce, but trade 1150 against 600 when you pen. So, when you go to support Heavy Line and think you can pen most of the tanks with AP - go for it.

 

Edit: Geno was faster - again :(

 

Both tanks have such crap gun handling and no armour/bad armour that I find in those sort of 'support the heavies' engagements that HESH is the best way to go. Firstly because you barely have to aim just hit, which reduces the damage you take, but also because of all the strong hull down tanks about, most of which the AP bounces off. 

 

So I'd rather do the 500-800 every time and reduce my exposure to return fire, than bounce the AP rounds off hull down IS7s or Supper Conquerors and get hit trying to fully aim at a weakspot. 

 

E100 is maybe an exception because the AP will pen the turret front, maybe Type 5 as well, but most of the other heavies people will position themselves where the AP bounces a lot.

 

Plus both E100 and Type 5 can do huge damage to you in return so I don't want to be giving them better chances to hit. 

 

AP I generally use for sure-shots, i.e kills on targets and have time to aim, or overmatch chances. But HESH is the best round most of the time. 



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View PostIgor_BL, on 03 September 2018 - 12:51 PM, said:

16/4 HESH/AP

 

if you use HE, you are playing that tank wrong

 

this

 

i do the same on the 183 (different amounts)

 



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View Postchillsnotskills, on 03 September 2018 - 12:11 PM, said:

What do you guys use? Only hesh? Ap? Is ordinary HE worth it?

 

5 AP and 15 HESH

 

HESH is all about shitbarn and 183... many times I was shoot with HESH one tank and splash tank near him, special at city maps. Cost of silver for match with FV is irelevant



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I don't have that useless box coffin but I run a 50/50 mix of AP and HESH in my FV183. If the AP can't do it, the HESH will make the bugger run away

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I've got the Deathstar, 9 AP 11 HESH.




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