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Macbang #1 Posted 03 September 2018 - 02:16 PM

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Is it just me.

Does it feels like side shots ""  FROM "" heavys and tds "" ONTO "" lights and medium, now more often results into non-penetrating hits/ bounces.

 

Seams like lights and meds only lose there tracks or recive non penetreating hits . Or enemy just continue drive like it did recive bounce.

Seeme to got worse with new patch

edit: cleared the first topic. Hate to type on my cellphone on a buss. 


Edited by Macbang, 03 September 2018 - 04:46 PM.


Slyspy #2 Posted 03 September 2018 - 02:51 PM

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View PostMacbang, on 03 September 2018 - 02:16 PM, said:

Is it just me, 

Or does it feels like clear side shots  from heavys and tds now, results into non-penetrating hits/ bounces.

 

Were only tracks get lost, with no dmg done. Or enemy just continue drive like it did recive bounce.

Seeme to got worse with new patch

 

Aim slightly higher.

Balc0ra #3 Posted 03 September 2018 - 03:02 PM

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Depends on your ammo ofc. If it's HEAT then it's to be expected when you hit the tracks etc. 

 

As for bounces? Well depends on their armor, your impact angle and how low your pen can go on a low roll. So it's not something that just started now and gets worse for each patch. Its always been there. You just use more factors that can impact it badly now vs before I suspect. 


Edited by Balc0ra, 03 September 2018 - 03:04 PM.


NUKLEAR_SLUG #4 Posted 03 September 2018 - 03:07 PM

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View PostMacbang, on 03 September 2018 - 02:16 PM, said:

Is it just me, 

 

 Yes. Aim better.

90grimli90 #5 Posted 03 September 2018 - 03:18 PM

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if you are referring to an Object 257 for example, then you need to high pretty high to make sure not to hit the tracks, because the hull is so high profilled.

 

So to be honest, yes it is probably you. Tracks are never a good spot to aim at when there is no armour behind it. This will result in no damage/bounce 



falcon_96 #6 Posted 03 September 2018 - 03:23 PM

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View PostMacbang, on 03 September 2018 - 01:16 PM, said:

Is it just me, 

Or does it feels like clear side shots  from heavys and tds now, results into non-penetrating hits/ bounces.

 

Were only tracks get lost, with no dmg done. Or enemy just continue drive like it did recive bounce.

Seeme to got worse with new patch

 

Shooting Obj 257 in the tracks is not a good idea dude... :trollface:
Also, if the shell went low, it penetrates the tracks, but not the hull hit box behind them, it just goes under the tank, and the tracks only get module damage. HEAT shells are also terrible against spaced armor(the tracks count as such).

Dava_117 #7 Posted 03 September 2018 - 03:34 PM

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As many said before me, if your shell hit the track but is too low to hit the hull behind them, you will get a 0 damage critical hit.

Also take into consideration that, while track have 100% hit chance, you will deal the full module damage only if you hit the front or rear driving wheel. Every other place will result in a 50% damage redution so the track will likely just get yellow.

 

Edit. Change te colour of that red text. IIRC, red is for moderation team only.


Edited by Dava_117, 03 September 2018 - 03:36 PM.


Macbang #8 Posted 03 September 2018 - 04:11 PM

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Funny everyone think i cant aim or be a noob. Just check my Gamertag= Macbang. 

 

And it is most lights and meds that seems to have strange armor rolls. 

 

And yes 257 lower Side armor are trollish. No News there for me at all. 

 


Edited by Macbang, 03 September 2018 - 04:17 PM.


Dava_117 #9 Posted 03 September 2018 - 04:22 PM

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View PostMacbang, on 03 September 2018 - 04:11 PM, said:

Funny everyone think i cant aim or be a noob. Just check my Gamertag= Macbang. 

 

And it is most lights and meds that seems to have strange armor rolls. 

 

And yes 257 lower Side armor are trollish. No News there for me at all. 

 

 

Not only a question of aim. RNG also take a role too. 

Also it's more a confirmation bias. You can expect to bounce a well armoured tank hence, when this thing happens, you don't pay attention to it. But when this happens against a paper tank, that you expected to autopen, you notice it.


Edited by Dava_117, 03 September 2018 - 04:23 PM.


SevernaSnaga #10 Posted 03 September 2018 - 04:22 PM

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Tiddy #11 Posted 04 September 2018 - 08:53 AM

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As already said main problem is the tracks. Wether you shoot them deliberately or the shell just uses its rng to fly straight into them.

Embarassingly to admit I figured that out way later than I would have liked to. :confused:


Edited by Tiddy, 04 September 2018 - 08:54 AM.


Captain_Kremen0 #12 Posted 04 September 2018 - 03:12 PM

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Dear Steve - please put your IS7 away for a minute and read the bit about penetration, angles and stuff.

Wrinkly #13 Posted 04 September 2018 - 05:21 PM

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1st game today in my Foch 155, shot at the side of a BC 25t resulting in no penetration and no critical. Couple of games later, same result against the side of an E50.

Balc0ra #14 Posted 04 September 2018 - 05:28 PM

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View PostMacbang, on 03 September 2018 - 04:11 PM, said:

Funny everyone think i cant aim or be a noob. Just check my Gamertag= Macbang. 

 

And it is most lights and meds that seems to have strange armor rolls. 

 

And yes 257 lower Side armor are trollish. No News there for me at all. 

 

 

Well... you have not proven anything either tbh to say differently. Or to show why you bounced at all etc. Last time we had a topic like this. Every shot was at a 70 degree or bigger angle, or it was a HEAT spam vs tracks. So considering 9 out 10 topics like this are that when they prove their point... Well, you can't blame us for being a bit skeptic.  

Edited by Balc0ra, 04 September 2018 - 05:30 PM.





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