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SF_Tank #1 Posted 05 September 2018 - 06:40 AM

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Hi!

 

I have tried to complete second front -mission:Union-12. Mr. Untouchable. Block twice more damage than the hit points of your vehicle 5 times. Seems to be too hard my tanks. I have Defender, but current MM( almost in every game X-tier TD and arty) and premium ammo used by enemy made it impossible. What to do?

-OBJ 268 4. Almost whole line undone

-ST 1. Almost whole line undone

-OBJ 430 U. Almost whole line undone

-T 10 research.

-OBJ 257 research.Should I try to get IS 7. Or does the premium ammo ruin its game?

 

SF


Edited by SF_Tank, 05 September 2018 - 06:44 AM.


Jorous #2 Posted 05 September 2018 - 06:56 AM

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To be honest. I have completed the first campaign and have activated the "Block twice your hitpoints mission" active for over three month now to compete it with honors. Never did block twice my hp in this time. Let alone get the secondary condition. And I am driving the Jap heavy line at the moment.

 

Over three years ago i did this in the T-29 Hulldown. But now????


Edited by Jorous, 05 September 2018 - 06:57 AM.


Hamsterkicker #3 Posted 05 September 2018 - 07:03 AM

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T150 or O-I would be your best bet. Not too many HP yet, but still you have to pray for a top tier match up and a city map.

 

 



BR33K1_PAWAH #4 Posted 05 September 2018 - 07:07 AM

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View PostHamsterkicker, on 05 September 2018 - 09:03 AM, said:

T150 or O-I would be your best bet. Not too many HP yet, but still you have to pray for a top tier match up and a city map.

 

 

 

This. Buy back T150 and do the mission.

PointZero #5 Posted 05 September 2018 - 07:15 AM

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It's a balancing act between having low enough hitpoints & just enough armor so you can bounce most of your opponents in a favorable scenario.

My plan for it is to get the final mission on other nations finished with honors and skip it with the orders until maybe some day I get lucky enough to complete it.

You just have to be:

  • Top tier so your armor counts for something with preferably no SPG's and large derp guns around
  • Against opponents that keep shooting you even tho it's clear they can't pen you, that keep coming 1 by 1 or refuse to flank you and still refuse to hit the 2 key after their 8th AP round harmlessly bounces off your tank.
  • With a team that camps 400m behind you so there are no other targets to shoot at and the guys shooting at you stay alive long enough for the dmg to accumulate.


Dava_117 #6 Posted 05 September 2018 - 07:59 AM

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It's doable on sveral tanks.

T-150 is good, thanks to the good armour layout and the noobs you may find as top tier that will bounce you with AP all day long.

KV-4 is another option. Get a good sidescraping corner and a couple of 750 alpha gun willing to bounce your side and it's done! Not as easy as in T-150 but doable.

ST-I require almost 4k blocked, so not easy at all. Can be done, but it require something like you being surrounded and fight your way out to be done! ;)



SF_Tank #7 Posted 05 September 2018 - 08:04 AM

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Hi!

 

Good tips. Thanks. T150 seems to be the best choice. 

 

SF



PervyPastryPuffer #8 Posted 05 September 2018 - 09:45 AM

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I've had a few good matches in the VK 100.01 P and IS-M. Fantastic sidescrapers, very bouncy.

snowlywhite #9 Posted 05 September 2018 - 09:47 AM

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su-101M1 for sure; it also has pretty low hp, so x2 blocking isn't hard.

Coldspell #10 Posted 05 September 2018 - 09:47 AM

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t29 on any a map it can go hull down, just stay perma spotted and let the enemy keep firing at your turret.

 

 

Edit: Yes just realized now, I haven't bothered with the new campaign yet.

In that case I find the WZ-120-1 FT to be an exceptional blocker.


Edited by Coldspell, 05 September 2018 - 09:53 AM.


snowlywhite #11 Posted 05 September 2018 - 09:48 AM

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folks - it's union mission. So Soviet/chinese tanks only.

arthurwellsley #12 Posted 05 September 2018 - 09:50 AM

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T29 - USA, so needs to go to the Soviets on lend lease ...

T150 - good for missions requires the moon and stars to align though ie right map and no spgs.

 

IS-M - interesting because not many players seem aware of the weak spots and so it can end up with a high "bounced" total.


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cragarion #13 Posted 05 September 2018 - 09:52 AM

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View PostSF_Tank, on 05 September 2018 - 06:40 AM, said:

Hi!

 

I have tried to complete second front -mission:Union-12. Mr. Untouchable. Block twice more damage than the hit points of your vehicle 5 times. Seems to be too hard my tanks. I have Defender, but current MM( almost in every game X-tier TD and arty) and premium ammo used by enemy made it impossible. What to do?

-OBJ 268 4. Almost whole line undone

-ST 1. Almost whole line undone

-OBJ 430 U. Almost whole line undone

-T 10 research.

-OBJ 257 research.Should I try to get IS 7. Or does the premium ammo ruin its game?

 

SF

 

Go for a lower tier tank think min is tier 6 or tier 7, top tier in a good tier7 wont be to hard, fewer hit points to double as well.

lime_vortep #14 Posted 05 September 2018 - 10:20 AM

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I do it easy with my Maus. 

Homer_J #15 Posted 05 September 2018 - 10:25 AM

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View Postlime_vortep, on 05 September 2018 - 10:20 AM, said:

I do it easy with my Maus. 

 

Really, 6k blocked?

 

Played all day yesterday and had trouble getting just two bounces in some battles.  The trouble isn't blocking but getting people to shoot you in the first place. 



lime_vortep #16 Posted 05 September 2018 - 10:31 AM

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View PostHomer_J, on 05 September 2018 - 10:25 AM, said:

 

Really, 6k blocked?

 

Played all day yesterday and had trouble getting just two bounces in some battles.  The trouble isn't blocking but getting people to shoot you in the first place. 

 

Wait for a battle with no arty. Go in the line of fire, angle the Maus and move it constantly. This tactic usually generate me about 7-10k block damage. But you should move your tank while angling, or they will find a way to pen you. It works. But you will make less damage that way. But it grantee you a lot of block damage. 

Edited by lime_vortep, 05 September 2018 - 10:34 AM.


Homer_J #17 Posted 05 September 2018 - 11:25 AM

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View Postlime_vortep, on 05 September 2018 - 10:31 AM, said:

 

Wait for a battle with no arty. Go in the line of fire, angle the Maus and move it constantly. This tactic usually generate me about 7-10k block damage. But you should move your tank while angling, or they will find a way to pen you. It works. But you will make less damage that way. But it grantee you a lot of block damage. 

 

Do you have a replay I can watch for some tips?

 

The most I blocked yesterday was 4900, which isn't enough.  I did once block 10k but that was when the Maus was over buffed and I only have shellproof (block same damage as your hitpoints) 10 times out of 92 battles.

 

Arty don't worry me, they rarely do much damage.  Type 5 and British 183mm guns are more of an issue.



lime_vortep #18 Posted 05 September 2018 - 12:00 PM

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View PostHomer_J, on 05 September 2018 - 11:25 AM, said:

 

Do you have a replay I can watch for some tips?

 

The most I blocked yesterday was 4900, which isn't enough.  I did once block 10k but that was when the Maus was over buffed and I only have shellproof (block same damage as your hitpoints) 10 times out of 92 battles.

 

Arty don't worry me, they rarely do much damage.  Type 5 and British 183mm guns are more of an issue.

 

Sorry, I don't record replays of my games. 
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This is the effective angling:

and move constantly while holding this angle of the hull and turret. You will do a lot of bounces. 



tank276 #19 Posted 05 September 2018 - 12:04 PM

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View PostSF_Tank, on 05 September 2018 - 05:40 AM, said:

Hi!

 

I have tried to complete second front -mission:Union-12. Mr. Untouchable. Block twice more damage than the hit points of your vehicle 5 times. Seems to be too hard my tanks. I have Defender, but current MM( almost in every game X-tier TD and arty) and premium ammo used by enemy made it impossible. What to do?

-OBJ 268 4. Almost whole line undone

-ST 1. Almost whole line undone

-OBJ 430 U. Almost whole line undone

-T 10 research.

-OBJ 257 research.Should I try to get IS 7. Or does the premium ammo ruin its game?

 

SF

 

As the guys above suggested, move to lower tiers (T150 at t6 looks sweet).

Homer_J #20 Posted 05 September 2018 - 12:19 PM

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View Postlime_vortep, on 05 September 2018 - 12:00 PM, said:

 

Sorry, I don't record replays of my games. 

 

Could you make an exception just for a couple of battles, that would be awfully kind of you.

 

It's only a matter of enabling replays in the game options, playing a battle or two with the Maus then uploading it to wotreplays.eu.

 

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and move constantly while holding this angle of the hull and turret. You will do a lot of bounces.

I know the technique, my problem is getting people to shoot at me.  They just don't shoot when I will bounce, only when I won't.


Edited by Homer_J, 05 September 2018 - 12:23 PM.





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