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SevernaSnaga #1 Posted 05 September 2018 - 01:08 PM

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Video made by: env1ro

Sample size: over 10,000 for each tank, everyone familiar with how statistics work, should know that its enough.

*My opinion will remain the same, first nerf OP tanks, and only after few months when meta potentially changes, buff weak ones.

Some tanks are strong but out of meta so their winrate is bad, doing it other way would be a mistake.

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EDIT: Data taken from: vbaddict


Edited by SevernaSnaga, 06 September 2018 - 08:06 AM.


zlaja031 #2 Posted 05 September 2018 - 02:05 PM

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INB4 T-62A buffs. 

DutchBaron_ #3 Posted 05 September 2018 - 02:10 PM

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Well realistically Nerf's are never going to happen at the scale in which they are needed, just because it will upset a large part of there player base, so the only way to make a somewhat balanced environment is to continue the power creep and buff the tanks that really need it.
PS. I love Env1ro's vids, just some short and nice content.

Dava_117 #4 Posted 05 September 2018 - 02:14 PM

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No IS-4 in there? Just LOL! 

 

Edit

That's why the normalized WR curves are better than row WR. 

Simeon85 consider yourself Ninjaed! ;)


Edited by Dava_117, 05 September 2018 - 02:16 PM.


SevernaSnaga #5 Posted 05 September 2018 - 02:54 PM

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View PostDutchBaron_, on 05 September 2018 - 02:10 PM, said:

Well realistically Nerf's are never going to happen at the scale in which they are needed, just because it will upset a large part of there player base, so the only way to make a somewhat balanced environment is to continue the power creep and buff the tanks that really need it.
PS. I love Env1ro's vids, just some short and nice content.

 

i watch him since i dont have time to watch streamers, and he is making videos, not nests for ads to hatch

SuperDuperOtter #6 Posted 05 September 2018 - 03:04 PM

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View PostDutchBaron_, on 05 September 2018 - 01:10 PM, said:

Well realistically Nerf's are never going to happen at the scale in which they are needed, just because it will upset a large part of there player base, so the only way to make a somewhat balanced environment is to continue the power creep and buff the tanks that really need it.
PS. I love Env1ro's vids, just some short and nice content.

 

Yeah ... the thing is, they don't ... For them, the Leo 1 is amoung the strong tanks.



Simeon85 #7 Posted 05 September 2018 - 03:11 PM

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View PostDava_117, on 05 September 2018 - 02:14 PM, said:

No IS-4 in there? Just LOL! 

 

Edit

That's why the normalized WR curves are better than row WR. 

Simeon85 consider yourself Ninjaed! ;)

 



SevernaSnaga #8 Posted 05 September 2018 - 03:12 PM

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View PostSuperDuperOtter, on 05 September 2018 - 03:04 PM, said:

 

Yeah ... the thing is, they don't ... For them, the Leo 1 is amoung the strong tanks.

 

german tanks are tanks that 80% of new people start with, so their winrate is lower than it should be(1-2%), but they do deserve a buff after OP tanks get nerfed

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Shacou #10 Posted 05 September 2018 - 03:54 PM

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View PostSevernaSnaga, on 05 September 2018 - 04:12 PM, said:

 

german tanks are tanks that 80% of new people start with, so their winrate is lower than it should be(1-2%), but they do deserve a buff after OP tanks get nerfed

 

Is-3 had low winrate from all bobs driving it, its op as [edited]and still got buffed. Statistics are statistics, reality differs.

HundeWurst #11 Posted 05 September 2018 - 04:02 PM

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View PostSevernaSnaga, on 05 September 2018 - 03:12 PM, said:

 

german tanks are tanks that 80% of new people start with, so their winrate is lower than it should be(1-2%), but they do deserve a buff after OP tanks get nerfed

 

The Leo1 and E50m are most certainly not part of the most played tanks. Even these days they are super rare. And while this is partially still true, the "overall to particular winrate" shows how sad these tanks are in reality.

But they are German, so no changes anytime soon anyway.



Balc0ra #12 Posted 05 September 2018 - 04:20 PM

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One issue. He uses stats from a site that only gathers the data from its active users that uploads their dossier. As in not server wide etc. So results might differ vs other sites even. The only one that's close vs other stat sites the past 2 weeks "from the last update that is" is the T-62A at 45% with 100K battles vs 20K. But it still has a server wide WR of 49.85%. Tho ofc... those stats are not official either as such.  

 

That and ofc.. in terms of buffs we know the RU stats are more vital then the EU etc. As it's why the IS-3 got the magical side armor buff back in the day. Even tho it did fine here in terms of WR etc. It had a 6% lower WR on RU. 

 

But even so, we know some tanks have been out of the current meta overall or current WR aside, and needs some attention. And I suspect due to missions and yolo farming. The WR on some will drop even more the next 2 weeks. 

 


Edited by Balc0ra, 05 September 2018 - 04:21 PM.


Xandania #13 Posted 05 September 2018 - 06:33 PM

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Kinda surprised the Jap. medium is not on the list ^^

doriansky1 #14 Posted 06 September 2018 - 08:32 AM

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I can understand T110E5 and 50B being affected by SuperConq and 3/5/7 MM respectively.  But I'm very surprised to see Centurion AX in the top 3 ,46.17% win rate it's horrible. I know this is called "Centurion Action S**t" but let's be honest , it's not a bad tank. Certainly not a 46% win rate tank.  Any reasonable explanation ? It's because the very good players don't play with it ?  



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I think this type os statistics are very distorted by the fact the 10% of the best players in the game don't play this tanks very often...

either because they are not very good, or because there are  simply something else that makes them obsolete...

 

per example the T62a is not by any means a bad medium, simply its obsolete due to the obj 140, besides the gun depression, both tanks are pretty much comparable

 

neither the obj 260 is better than the IS-7, but because its only played by people who were competent enough to get it (Ie: above average players) it gets an overall better winrate...just like most of CW reward tanks as well...

 

That said, some of these tanks may need buff's so people start using them again more often, i don't see why i would want to play the E100 now, after the introduction of the 60TP.... i simply don't...



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View Postdoriansky1, on 06 September 2018 - 08:32 AM, said:

I can understand T110E5 and 50B being affected by SuperConq and 3/5/7 MM respectively.  But I'm very surprised to see Centurion AX in the top 3 ,46.17% win rate it's horrible. I know this is called "Centurion Action S**t" but let's be honest , it's not a bad tank. Certainly not a 46% win rate tank.  Any reasonable explanation ? It's because the very good players don't play with it ?  

 

Most tier 10s are not performing well in the current meta. 

 

Corridor maps, short range engagements and games filled OP armour like Type 5 Maus, Bobjects, hull down Super Conqs etc. that the maps force them fight frontally.

 

Even Obj. 140 is producing a win rate curve like this -

 

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And we know that is not a bad tank, but when 55% overall WR players are getting 53-54% win rates in a tank like the Obj. 140 you know the meta is harsh on meds. 

 

Basically the tier 10 meta is armour, alpha and high pen premium rounds/premium HE in the Type 5s case.  A well rounded and solid med like the Cent AX does not fit into those categories. 



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Hello everyone, 

I moved this thread to the correct section and removed the off-topic content. 

Have a good day.
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StinkyStonky #18 Posted 06 September 2018 - 12:21 PM

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How is "Video & Streams" the right forum for this ?

 

Mod, did you click the wrong folder by mistake ?



FluffyRedFox #19 Posted 06 September 2018 - 12:23 PM

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View PostStinkyStonky, on 06 September 2018 - 11:21 AM, said:

How is "Video & Streams" the right forum for this ?

 

Mod, did you click the wrong folder by mistake ?

Its 'cause OP linked a youtube video ._> 

 

 

 

Edited by FluffyRedFox, 06 September 2018 - 12:24 PM.


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View PostStinkyStonky, on 06 September 2018 - 11:21 AM, said:

How is "Video & Streams" the right forum for this ?

 

Mod, did you click the wrong folder by mistake ?

 

View PostFluffyRedFox, on 06 September 2018 - 11:23 AM, said:

 

Its 'cause OP linked a youtube video ._> 

 

 

 

In which section should it be for you ? I can move it another time no worries :)






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