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40TP Polish Tech. Tree Update 1.1

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DaTankTho #1 Posted 05 September 2018 - 05:15 PM

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Hello all!

 

This topic is all about the 40TP Habicha and whether it's good or bad. 

For the people who do not know the tank: the 40TP is a tier 6 medium tank, it follows up the 25TP and prepares you for the 45TP. It has horrible mobility for a medium tank, it didn't sacrifice its mobility for its armor and the gun is almost the same as that of the Italian P43 bis. 

 

Why I'm making this topic is because the tank is a medium tank that goes 23km/h stock on leveled ground and about  34km/h fully upgraded on leveled ground. whilst the previous polish tank the 25TP goes at 50+km/h and the 45TP the following polish tank goes at almost the same speed as this one (I think, I'm not sure). Shouldn't the 40TP the tier 6 we're talking about get a mobility buff to in between these two tanks? Like a 40km/h or something? Let me know your thoughts about the recently added 40TP.



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You drive it like a low-armor HT, problem solved.  I had a horrible time  on tier5 (due to the gun aim time and accuracy) but tier 6 is not bad minus the mobility of course.  Wait until you hit tier 7 and you will enjoy it much more.

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View Post_____Yarpen_____, on 05 September 2018 - 06:04 PM, said:

You drive it like a low-armor HT, problem solved.  I had a horrible time  on tier5 (due to the gun aim time and accuracy) but tier 6 is not bad minus the mobility of course.  Wait until you hit tier 7 and you will enjoy it much more.

 

Dont be silly. This dont solve problem at all. 

tank276 #4 Posted 05 September 2018 - 07:24 PM

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View PostDaTankTho, on 05 September 2018 - 04:15 PM, said:

 

Why I'm making this topic is because the tank is a medium tank that goes 23km/h stock on leveled ground and about  34km/h fully upgraded on leveled ground.

It is similar to the super pershing in style (also labeled medium) at tier 6 - and without the S.P.'s armour ofc :hiding:



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I just had a game in my KV-2 where I was surprized I could keep up with a medium tank. Didn't recognize it at first, turned out to be the polish tier 6

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View PostDaTankTho, on 05 September 2018 - 04:15 PM, said:

Shouldn't the 40TP the tier 6 we're talking about get a mobility buff to in between these two tanks? Like a 40km/h or something? Let me know your thoughts about the recently added 40TP.

 



Bennie182 #7 Posted 05 September 2018 - 09:18 PM

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seems like free xp is the way to go.. I was hoping for a better time grinding up the tiers.. I will probably research it tomorrow.

does it make sense to add the last engine? if not I'd rather save 10k xp grinding, so I can go for researching the 45TP after getting the top gun.



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and 45tp feels like medium tank somehow :) no more ideas :rolleyes:

sgtYester #9 Posted 05 September 2018 - 09:59 PM

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yeah, tier 6 should be competitive.. but its not russian so who cares?

fnaves_POR #10 Posted 05 September 2018 - 10:22 PM

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25tp and 40tp are just pathetic worst grind ever

and the stock guns omfg

it's a trap for you to use gold or free experience

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Bennie182 #11 Posted 08 September 2018 - 10:13 AM

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40TP is not as bad as I expected, though it feels like playing the TVP VTU. Bad gun handling and accuracy making it hard to get damage.

I was wondering if the top engine would be worth grinding 10k xp, but no one responded, so I tried it myself. The last engine helps to get on speed faster, to get at least a bit quicker into position.

I free xp-ed the turret and tracks, but I want to save a lot for the tier 7, as I also don't have any crew skills on it yet. Only a commander with 25% repairs, as I wait for getting the tier 7 to put a few good ones in it, to save a lot of crew xp loss over the line. It was a good decision to use that free xp, as it helped me to get the tank some decent stats in order to get more damage.

 

I think the tank needs a buff on terrain resistances at least. A small accuracy buff would help as well.


Edited by Bennie182, 08 September 2018 - 10:13 AM.


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Yesterday I earned mastery badge with 40TP with 8 kills, in the last battle of the grind (Erlenberg).

Then I play my first battle in 45TP and get 7 kills (only 3rd class badge).

Rest of the battles were uneventful :hiding:



Bennie182 #13 Posted 10 September 2018 - 06:39 PM

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Funny fact: I just played a battle where a T-150 easily passed me with both being on full speed, driving slighty uphill, while playing with 100% crew. This clearly shows that it needs an engine buff.

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It's basically like the 3601 was back in the day. A medium with "armor" and "meh" mobility. And this armor works as well. As in not at all. Everything pens it anyway with normal ammo. 

 

Tho stock it's worse the then the tier 6 Italian in terms of speed. Tho the tier 6 Italian grew on me and I liked it once I had all the modules. I can't say the same for this. When it's armor don't work vs even most tier 4 guns. I see no reason why it should be that slow to gain speed. As with the top engine it does more than 36. As I've seen 45+ on flat ground may times. But it just takes longer to get to 36 that you don't see it to often. And it bleeds it the second you turn or drive over a hump. It's actually worse than the 65t on that area. 

 

 


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To me it looks like the Polish tech tree is totally forgettable like the chineese TD line.

Shame they cant put any mid tier tanks that enjoyable. 



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View PostSolstad1069, on 10 September 2018 - 07:57 PM, said:

To me it looks like the Polish tech tree is totally forgettable like the chineese TD line.

Shame they cant put any mid tier tanks that enjoyable. 

 

At least the Polish tech tree has high tiers that are somewhat unique and worth it; Chinese TDs not so much

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High alpha guns on mediocre platforms = Polish tree.

Have no idea how the tier 7 is, but tier 8 looked good on stream. Tier 9 and 10 looked mediocre. But had big guns :bush:

Im at Tier VI and its performing ok so far, ive just gotten bad teams in it. The last engine helped alot on the speed, so i recommend getting it.


Edited by Grimmx, 10 September 2018 - 07:15 PM.


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View PostBalc0ra, on 10 September 2018 - 06:50 PM, said:

It's basically like the 3601 was back in the day. A medium with "armor" and "meh" mobility. And this armor works as well. As in not at all. Everything pens it anyway with normal ammo. 

 

Tho stock it's worse the then the tier 6 Italian in terms of speed. Tho the tier 6 Italian grew on me and I liked it once I had all the modules. I can't say the same for this. When it's armor don't work vs even most tier 4 guns. I see no reason why it should be that slow to gain speed. As with the top engine it does more than 36. As I've seen 45+ on flat ground may times. But it just takes longer to get to 36 that you don't see it to often. And it bleeds it the second you turn or drive over a hump. It's actually worse than the 65t on that area.

Strange how the armor on VK36 did fine for me, even when not knowing much about the game back then. Probably partly because the matchmaking was a lot better.

 

Both the Italian tier 6 and this one are trash when it comes to mobility. It's the same as 65T in my opinion. I played it on the test server back then, with a solid crew, but still it was/is trash. I stopped playing the Italian because I got bored of it's gun especially. At least I can make the 40TP work now after having a fully trained crew. Can't say the same for the Italian one, though both have very bad gun stats.

40TP at least can bounce some shots with the turret. Bounced several shots from a T-43 with it, for example.



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Geez,you guys act as if Czech and Italian lines taught you nothing.

All these tanks up to T8 (Škoda T 50 in Czech case,Tier IX) are goddamn free exp sinks. 

 

It's like you walk through an infinite field of s**t,and then you see a tunnel with light at the end of it.



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View PostlnfernaI, on 10 September 2018 - 07:37 PM, said:

Geez,you guys act as if Czech and Italian lines taught you nothing.

All these tanks up to T8 (Škoda T 50 in Czech case,Tier IX) are goddamn free exp sinks. 

 

It's like you walk through an infinite field of s**t,and then you see a tunnel with light at the end of it.

 

No, you lie. 

Czech tier V was very good, tier VI same. Tier VII was playable, unlike Polish tier 6, and only painfull was tier VIII in Czech line. 




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