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tumppi776 #1 Posted 07 September 2018 - 09:11 AM

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On paper it looks quite decent tier 10 medium.

 

On the other hand theres not many on the battlefield. You can play a whole evening and not see one.

 

Is it good or not? Competitive?



xtrem3x #2 Posted 07 September 2018 - 09:13 AM

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It's good but the 430U does everything better so it has become a bit pointless now.

 

A lot of people will say it isn't good



djuro900 #3 Posted 07 September 2018 - 09:30 AM

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Its not that bad. Bit it lost its bigest strength,when i grinded it few years ago it was novelty because it had high alfa heavy tank gun on medium and it was fun to run around blasting tanks for 440 damage. Today thats not special and there are simply better mediums even heavy/medium hybrids. Armor can be trollish, i havent played it it for 2 years but back then gun depression was awfull,i think they buffed that. All in all its not bad but there are simply better tanks.

ValkyrionX #4 Posted 07 September 2018 - 09:30 AM

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View Posttumppi776, on 07 September 2018 - 09:11 AM, said:

On paper it looks quite decent tier 10 medium.

 

On the other hand theres not many on the battlefield. You can play a whole evening and not see one.

 

Is it good or not? Competitive?

 

121 need some buff , frontal turret armor and gun mantle are very weak and easy to pen.. 265 mm of frontal turret armor can be good (actually is only 240) , especially cause the hull is slightly armored like a t62a

 

same for the aim time..is too long for a medium tier X , and having wagons like the 430U at stake does not make sense to keep certain tier X meds so uncompetitive 

always the same thing for mobility, it requires less resistance to the ground and more horsepower +200HP

 

 

in the buff list there are also:

 

amx30b (need buff to accuracy , more shells speed and more penetration to apcr and heat)    

 

leopard 1 (need more camo rating and more mobility and more armor on gun mantle, about 150mm )

 

stb1 (need more frontal turret armor and more accuracy)

 

 



tank276 #5 Posted 07 September 2018 - 10:17 AM

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View Posttumppi776, on 07 September 2018 - 08:11 AM, said:

 

Is it good or not? Competitive?

It is not a bad tank, but why have this when you can have obj 140? It is better, probably in all possible ways.

If the player is skillful, it can be competitive,yes.



zerosumgame #6 Posted 07 September 2018 - 12:13 PM

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I have had it in my garage over four years, and I have never played it. I think this tells something about the 121.:hiding:

lnfernaI #7 Posted 07 September 2018 - 12:43 PM

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What can I tell?

I'm The Chosen One that was selected to be 121's Royal Protector. Everyone who says that Obj.430U or any other russian medium,(aside K-91) is better, is my natural enemy,and if anyone wrongs it,will also be hunted down.

 

xtrem3x, on 07 September 2018 - 10:13 AM, said:

It's good but the 430U does everything better so it has become a bit pointless now.

 

A lot of people will say it isn't good

Who cares what people say? It's up to SerB and The Machine God to set world balance.


Edited by lnfernaI, 07 September 2018 - 12:47 PM.


demon_tank #8 Posted 07 September 2018 - 01:14 PM

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121 is not bad but its not great either.

 

Fixing it is very easy.

 

Nerff the 430U alhpa dmg to 400 and 121 is fixed.

It will become relevant again and no buffs needed.

 

Plus the 430u is so good that the alpha dmg nerff wont make a difference.

Its a 10% dpm nerff that can be partially solved by increasing its rate of fire by 5%.

 

You solve 2 problems for the price of one.

 

Why is that so hard for WG to understand.

Its a perfect fix.

 

Why do Russian tanks need to have a counterpart of every novelty that other nations have??

 

Whats next ? A russian rype 5 and a Russian super conqueror??



ilhilh #9 Posted 07 September 2018 - 01:26 PM

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View Postzerosumgame, on 07 September 2018 - 11:13 AM, said:

I have had it in my garage over four years, and I have never played it. I think this tells something about the 121.:hiding:

 

That it doesn't sound very appealing to you? That you have judged a tank by other people's reports? I don't hold much stock on people who rant about tanks they haven't played themselves... there is a limit to what playing against a tank can tell you.

zerosumgame #10 Posted 07 September 2018 - 01:33 PM

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View Postilhilh, on 07 September 2018 - 03:26 PM, said:

 

That it doesn't sound very appealing to you? That you have judged a tank by other people's reports? I don't hold much stock on people who rant about tanks they haven't played themselves... there is a limit to what playing against a tank can tell you.

 

You see that hiding emoji behind my statement? I was hoping it was sarcastic enough to tell that I know owning a tank and not playing it tells something about me.




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