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UserZer00 #1 Posted 07 September 2018 - 10:00 PM

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OK, I admit that I have only played up to tier IV, but there is no way in hell that I am going any further with this tank line in its current state.

 

I can only assume that WG either hates Polish tanks tanks and wants to punish anyone who thinks they might be able to get some enjoyment from playing them.  I wasn't able to find anything enjoyable about the total lack of view range and pea shooting guns granted at tier IV and don't even want to see what type of tortures they have added to the other tiers.  

 

It might just be that I decided to try out the Polish line after continued frustration trying to get the Italian tier VII to actually hit something, but based on other comments I have read this may not be the case.

 

All this does is make me wonder why WG went thru the trouble of adding the tanks as they don't seem to add anything new or useful to the game. I guess maybe to add a new "low" point to offset all the over powered tanks that have been recently added.  Who knows?



Temid23 #2 Posted 07 September 2018 - 10:11 PM

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To use BOB classic:

WG doesn't hate Polish tanks or Polish players... WG just hates you UserZer00



UserZer00 #3 Posted 07 September 2018 - 10:28 PM

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View PostTemid23, on 07 September 2018 - 10:11 PM, said:

To use BOB classic:

WG doesn't hate Polish tanks or Polish players... WG just hates you UserZer00

 

I meant the players in general, I wasn't focusing on the Polish players (just to be clear).

 

It's already been established that WG hates me. I wouldn't start a thread just to whine about that!  



Browarszky #4 Posted 07 September 2018 - 10:29 PM

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catatpillar #5 Posted 07 September 2018 - 10:38 PM

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Nonsense

I'm currently grinding female crew for the polish tech tree. Tier 7+ seems awesome. Especially 60tp!!!!



Dr_Oolen #6 Posted 07 September 2018 - 10:48 PM

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Wg doesnt hate polish tanks or players, but WG loves money more than tans and players :)

SharpBlue #7 Posted 07 September 2018 - 10:49 PM

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8+ is fine.

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View Postcatatpillar, on 07 September 2018 - 10:38 PM, said:

Nonsense

I'm currently grinding female crew for the polish tech tree. Tier 7+ seems awesome. Especially 60tp!!!!

 

View PostSharpBlue, on 07 September 2018 - 10:49 PM, said:

8+ is fine.

 

Yes, but getting to tier VII/VIII should at least have some high points along the way and not be a free experience fiesta. 

 

Designing a tank line with no redeeming qualities until higher tiers is not a good idea.

 

Keep in mind that this is coming from a player that enjoys the AMX 40.

 



Hedgehog1963 #9 Posted 07 September 2018 - 10:59 PM

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View PostUserZer00, on 07 September 2018 - 09:00 PM, said:

OK, I admit that I have only played up to tier IV, but there is no way in hell that I am going any further with this tank line in its current state.

 

I can only assume that WG either hates Polish tanks tanks and wants to punish anyone who thinks they might be able to get some enjoyment from playing them.  I wasn't able to find anything enjoyable about the total lack of view range and pea shooting guns granted at tier IV and don't even want to see what type of tortures they have added to the other tiers.  

 

It might just be that I decided to try out the Polish line after continued frustration trying to get the Italian tier VII to actually hit something, but based on other comments I have read this may not be the case.

 

All this does is make me wonder why WG went thru the trouble of adding the tanks as they don't seem to add anything new or useful to the game. I guess maybe to add a new "low" point to offset all the over powered tanks that have been recently added.  Who knows?

 



Balc0ra #11 Posted 08 September 2018 - 12:22 AM

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Name one line where tier 5 and below were superb? You more or less explained half the lines in the game. Italians and Swedes were more or less the same. The tier 5 is fantastic once you get that top gun tho. Even mobile. Tier 6 is trash with the stock engine, as where the Italian tier 6 med. But it grows on me still once you play it, but not better vs the Italian with the 90mm IMO. Tier 7+ seems to be where this line is at. 

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View PostBalc0ra, on 08 September 2018 - 01:22 AM, said:

Name one line where tier 5 and below were superb? You more or less explained half the lines in the game. Italians and Swedes were more or less the same. The tier 5 is fantastic once you get that top gun tho. Even mobile. Tier 6 is trash with the stock engine, as where the Italian tier 6 med. But it grows on me still once you play it, but not better vs the Italian with the 90mm IMO. Tier 7+ seems to be where this line is at. 

 

Ikv 72, tier 3 Swedish TD with the best camo and 100 alpha damage. That's a good one.

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The polish tier 5 is actually quite good with the top gun.  What WG were thinking with the horrendous pay to play to get to even the second gun, is anybody's guess.  Some tanks are free XP sinks for sure.  This one is just so blatant it boggles the mind.

 

Spending free XP should feel like a choice not an obligation.



Eyesan #14 Posted 08 September 2018 - 06:16 AM

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There's a saying, something along the lines of never ascribing an ill event to malicious design where it can be explained by incompetence.  

 

I suspect that applies to that tank with the ridiculous low pen first gun, I doubt WG deliberately made it that bad to get people to spend free xp, rather think they just got it wrong.  I did eventually free XP'd the modules when I got sick of bouncing all my shots.

 

In any event, it's hardly the first time there's been a total pig in a line of tanks, & most of the tanks are ok once upgraded, at least one of the low tier ones is good with top gun, forget which. 

 

I've got through to the T7 heavy, that's very nice when fully upgraded.  



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Regardless of the fact that most lines (pre-tier V) suck, the Polish line seems to accelerate and sucking!!!
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How do you receive these "free" polish crew members?

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Never play low tiers. Use free xp to skip to at least tier 7. 

PS: WG have no problem with polish players. Other players have something with siemka tankers. 


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View PostBalc0ra, on 07 September 2018 - 11:22 PM, said:

Name one line where tier 5 and below were superb? You more or less explained half the lines in the game. Italians and Swedes were more or less the same. The tier 5 is fantastic once you get that top gun tho. Even mobile. Tier 6 is trash with the stock engine, as where the Italian tier 6 med. But it grows on me still once you play it, but not better vs the Italian with the 90mm IMO. Tier 7+ seems to be where this line is at. 

 

Japs (Keho), Germans (Luchs, Pz38Na, Pz III J), Skoda line, Swedes

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View PostBalc0ra, on 07 September 2018 - 11:22 PM, said:

Name one line where tier 5 and below were superb? You more or less explained half the lines in the game. Italians and Swedes were more or less the same. The tier 5 is fantastic once you get that top gun tho. Even mobile. Tier 6 is trash with the stock engine, as where the Italian tier 6 med. But it grows on me still once you play it, but not better vs the Italian with the 90mm IMO. Tier 7+ seems to be where this line is at. 

 

US (T1, Chafee, M7, Wolverine, M4, T40 and yes M3 Lee if you play it as TD),

Germany (all tier 5s, most tier 4s and tier 3s are great tanks/Tds),

Russia (A20 line, T34 line, T28, T46, KV1, KV1S) , 

France (BDR, Sarl 42, Sau40, AMX40 surprisingly)

UK (Matilda, Grant, Sherman III, Churchil, AT2)

China (Type 34)

Japan (Chi Nu)

Czechia the whole lineup 

 

Want also to start at tier 6? 

 

The Polish line is an absolute piece of crap. The tanks even fully upgraded are a pile of crap. They are 2 shots on anything tier 5 and above, let alone tier 6 meds. 

Start guns absolutely crap, and huge tanks that cannot hide or are 1 shot for anyone shooting HE. 

 

 

 



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View PostBalc0ra, on 08 September 2018 - 12:22 AM, said:

Name one line where tier 5 and below were superb? You more or less explained half the lines in the game. Italians and Swedes were more or less the same. The tier 5 is fantastic once you get that top gun tho. Even mobile. Tier 6 is trash with the stock engine, as where the Italian tier 6 med. But it grows on me still once you play it, but not better vs the Italian with the 90mm IMO. Tier 7+ seems to be where this line is at. 

 

View PostFediuld, on 08 September 2018 - 08:51 AM, said:

 

US (T1, Chafee, M7, Wolverine, M4, T40 and yes M3 Lee if you play it as TD),

Germany (all tier 5s, most tier 4s and tier 3s are great tanks/Tds),

Russia (A20 line, T34 line, T28, T46, KV1, KV1S) , 

France (BDR, Sarl 42, Sau40, AMX40 surprisingly)

UK (Matilda, Grant, Sherman III, Churchil, AT2)

China (Type 34)

Japan (Chi Nu)

Czechia the whole lineup 

 

Want also to start at tier 6? 

 

The Polish line is an absolute piece of crap. The tanks even fully upgraded are a pile of crap. They are 2 shots on anything tier 5 and above, let alone tier 6 meds. 

Start guns absolutely crap, and huge tanks that cannot hide or are 1 shot for anyone shooting HE. 

 

 

 

 

Fediuld did a much better job of answering than I would have been able to.  

 

I just know that from my play experience I have never felt as shocked at the utter uselessness of a tank line as I did when trying out the Polish tanks.  Usually tanks will have at least one redeeming quality (bouncy, fast, good view range, etc) that you can make work for you.  I didn't get that feeling from the Polish line.

 

Even though I am almost as frustrated with the early Italian line I was at least able to find some minor qualities in each tank that offered some pleasure in going thru the tiers.   That seems to be totally missing in the Polish tanks.

 

With a huge Polish following within the game they would definitely have been better off giving each tier some quality to look forward to instead of making players feel dead inside while attempting to grind the line.  This doesn't mean they should have made them over powered, just granted the AMX 40's bounciness, the M3 Lee capacity to surprise the enemy under certain conditions, etc.

 

Yes, I know this is subjective, an opinion, etc.  I don't think that changes the fact that WG messed up on this line.

 

 

 

 



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I just unlocked the tier 6 yesterday, but haven't bought it yet as I'm trying to collect free xp first for some modules. In my experience all of the tanks so far have been fine. I'll probably even keep the tier 5. It's kind of like a crappier Cromwell at a lower tier; a fast tank with a good damage potential but bad gun handling. Then again I did free xp most of the modules so can't speak to the stock grinds. But aren't most tanks bad in stock configurations anyway - I don't think this is anything new?


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