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Poll: FV215b Poll (35 members have cast votes)

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Should the FV215b receive some love?

  1. Yes, it needs changes. (23 votes [65.71%])

    Percentage of vote: 65.71%

  2. No, it should remain as it is. (12 votes [34.29%])

    Percentage of vote: 34.29%

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MrEdweird #1 Posted 08 September 2018 - 11:30 PM

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So it's been enough time since the SConq has come out and been borderline overpowered, and pretty much all the good players forgot their FV215b existed.

The SConq has everything, while the only use you can get out of the FV215b is pretty much the same gun and worse everything else.

Don't get me wrong, I've been an advocate for British tanks since they were introduced due to how bad they all were. That has obviously changed now, and I'm glad, even if it did take like 5 years or more.

 

So considering that the FV215b has now hit 46.2% average winrate...is it not time to do something about the 50mm side armor, the weakspots under the turret that have 1/3 the armor, the lack of gun depression over the sides or really anywhere, the terrible turret weakspot that russian heavies pen from 200m with like 3 seconds of aiming etc.? The tank was very clearly subject to preference from very good players, and average and bad players simply have no chance in it and evidently, never have.

 

Seems to me like the tank has run its course.

How about making it on-par with the alternatives for those of us who enjoy it's playstyle and keep it still?

 

I've been waiting for changes to the T95E2, FV201(A45), T-34-2 etc. forever, but this is a tier X tank. IS-4 being the other completely neglected vehicle in that range.


Edited by MrEdweird, 09 September 2018 - 02:23 PM.


wobblybob #2 Posted 08 September 2018 - 11:33 PM

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You are 100% right but don't hold your breath

MrEdweird #3 Posted 08 September 2018 - 11:40 PM

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View Postwobblybob, on 08 September 2018 - 10:33 PM, said:

You are 100% right but don't hold your breath

 

I know that I shouldn't but sometimes the frustration with WG's lack of care is nauseating.

xx984 #4 Posted 09 September 2018 - 09:48 AM

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I prefer mine over s conq, it is a lot worse, but for some reason I find it more enjoyable and do better in it

Edited by xx984, 09 September 2018 - 09:49 AM.


kaneloon #5 Posted 09 September 2018 - 09:57 AM

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Look at swedish and japonese tiers X.

WG doesn't give countries too many good tiers X, probably to encourage diversity.



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View Postkaneloon, on 09 September 2018 - 10:57 AM, said:

Look at swedish and japonese tiers X.

WG doesn't give countries too many good tiers X, probably to encourage diversity.

 

Wouldn't more good t10s increase diversity though?

shikaka9 #7 Posted 09 September 2018 - 10:07 AM

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where is option : Its good tenk, just OP dont how to use it ???

Enforcer1975 #8 Posted 09 September 2018 - 10:28 AM

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You forgot the option:
NERF ALL NEW AND BROKEN TANKS TO THE LEVEL OF THE OLD ONES AND BUFF THE ONES THAT REALLY NEED IT TO THE SAME LEVEL.


zlaja031 #9 Posted 09 September 2018 - 10:40 AM

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View Postshikaka9, on 09 September 2018 - 09:07 AM, said:

where is option : Its good tenk, just OP dont how to use it ???

 

That's the whole point of biased polls. :trollface:

Andrasan89 #10 Posted 09 September 2018 - 11:49 AM

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like on mostly others...i have same opinion :

 

NOT OLD ONES NEED SUPERBUFFS !! NEW ONES NEED NERFS !! :facepalm:

 

old ones are just BALANCED, but those moronic new ones are NOT.



MrEdweird #11 Posted 09 September 2018 - 12:17 PM

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View Postshikaka9, on 09 September 2018 - 09:07 AM, said:

where is option : Its good tenk, just OP dont how to use it ???

 

The second one covers that, does it not?

And what makes you think I don't know how to use it?

 

View Postzlaja031, on 09 September 2018 - 09:40 AM, said:

That's the whole point of biased polls. :trollface:

 

It isn't biased, the gun is great and the hull and turret are garbage, that's pretty objective.


Edited by MrEdweird, 09 September 2018 - 12:20 PM.


mystikro #12 Posted 09 September 2018 - 12:18 PM

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View PostMrEdweird, on 09 September 2018 - 12:30 AM, said:

FV215b has now hit 46.2% average winrate...

 

I had smth like 40% and it was so bad that I had to sell it. I really tried to like it. I really played and played but it just did not work. Maybe if there wasn't so much gold spam. Even then it would struggle. Sold it and don't want it back.

Mimos_A #13 Posted 09 September 2018 - 12:42 PM

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What's the point in buffing a tank that's essentially removed from the game? They would have just removed it from the game, they decided to let people who wanted to keep it, which is nice, but I see no reason why they would spend any effort keeping a tank that was planned to just be deleted up to date.

Hiisi #14 Posted 09 September 2018 - 12:55 PM

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It was a free tier 10. Its priority after if all tier 4-10:s are balanced properly. 

 

You have good tank replacement already.

 

there are really bad tier 10 tanks, china mt, japan mt, german mt:s and many many more... that needs to be looked asap...

 


Edited by Hiisi, 09 September 2018 - 12:56 PM.


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View Postxx984, on 09 September 2018 - 08:48 AM, said:

I prefer mine over s conq, it is a lot worse, but for some reason I find it more enjoyable and do better in it

 

I would love mine as well if it didn't burn as soon as someone looks at you. 

vcristi #16 Posted 09 September 2018 - 01:03 PM

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So what exactly is the point in wasting time buffing/balancing a retired tank ?

You had it for free, you like it - play it, you don't like it - don't play it. Simple.

It is or not was a premium tank (you do not spent money on it), it was not a reward tank for some hard missions or campaign, it is not a regular tech tree grind tank. It is just a tank that they let you keep it in garage for free as a souvenir.

 

 

P.S.: Your 'poll' is biased af.


Edited by vcristi, 09 September 2018 - 01:04 PM.


MrEdweird #17 Posted 09 September 2018 - 01:56 PM

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View Postvcristi, on 09 September 2018 - 12:03 PM, said:

So what exactly is the point in wasting time buffing/balancing a retired tank ?

You had it for free, you like it - play it, you don't like it - don't play it. Simple.

It is or not was a premium tank (you do not spent money on it), it was not a reward tank for some hard missions or campaign, it is not a regular tech tree grind tank. It is just a tank that they let you keep it in garage for free as a souvenir.

 

 

P.S.: Your 'poll' is biased af.

 

I never said that they should "waste" anything on it.

The question is whether or not it needs changes.

 

By your logic, no tank in the game should ever be changed. The FV215b has remained unchanged for years, that it has special status means nothing.

And I'll change the poll if it irks you so much.

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View PostHiisi, on 09 September 2018 - 11:55 AM, said:

It was a free tier 10. Its priority after if all tier 4-10:s are balanced properly. 

 

You have good tank replacement already.

 

there are really bad tier 10 tanks, china mt, japan mt, german mt:s and many many more... that needs to be looked asap...

 

 

Yeah, of course, but that doesn't mean that this one doesn't need to be looked at.

I never said that it should be a massive priority, but it's evident now that it's a mediocre tank that has been neglected for just as long as any other vehicle in the game.



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View PostEnforcer1975, on 09 September 2018 - 10:28 AM, said:

You forgot the option:
NERF ALL NEW AND BROKEN TANKS TO THE LEVEL OF THE OLD ONES AND BUFF THE ONES THAT REALLY NEED IT TO THE SAME LEVEL.

 

Would it still be a better tank then? Everyone can still pen this when he holds a corner due to the paper plates under the turret, even if they nerf everything else that came after it. As that won't fix every tank that do struggle. I said the same thing about the T34. Even that won't be good unless they nerf the DPM on every HT he faces into the ground. This needs more love then nerfing everyone else tbh. 

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View PostMrEdweird, on 09 September 2018 - 01:56 PM, said:

 

I never said that they should "waste" anything on it.

The question is whether or not it needs changes.

 

By your logic, no tank in the game should ever be changed. The FV215b has remained unchanged for years, that it has special status means nothing.

And I'll change the poll if it irks you so much.

 

They were planning on outright removing the tank. People wanted to keep it, so they got to keep it. It even got an HD update. Beyond that the tank is just "done". Beyond the fact that it's still a playable vehicle it's just out of the game as far as the devs are concerned. With the amount of tanks that need some love in this game, especially considering how much they're struggling to figure out what to do with the premium-MM tanks right now, I don't see any reason for them to pay attention to a tank that for all intents and purposes is only still in the game because some people said they still wanted to keep it even though it was slated for removal.



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View PostMimos_A, on 09 September 2018 - 01:55 PM, said:

 

They were planning on outright removing the tank. People wanted to keep it, so they got to keep it. It even got an HD update. Beyond that the tank is just "done". Beyond the fact that it's still a playable vehicle it's just out of the game as far as the devs are concerned. With the amount of tanks that need some love in this game, especially considering how much they're struggling to figure out what to do with the premium-MM tanks right now, I don't see any reason for them to pay attention to a tank that for all intents and purposes is only still in the game because some people said they still wanted to keep it even though it was slated for removal.

 

I don't recall anyone asking to keep the tank.

That aside, suggesting that nothing should be done about the vehicle is about as daft as saying that it has priority over others.

 

You keep talking about whether or not WG should dedicate time to doing their bloody job, not whether or not the vehicle actually needs changes.

I'm not gonna decide for WG what to do with this thread.


Edited by MrEdweird, 09 September 2018 - 03:24 PM.






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