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lime_vortep #1 Posted 11 September 2018 - 04:06 PM

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So...my very first tier VII tank was Tiger I. I started the game because of it. I made the huge mistake to grind it very fast and when I was still a crapplayer. I played it sooo bad at first. All i wanted is to have kills, didn't gave a damn about damage. I knew nothing of this game or how to play it. 

 

In time after I played other stuff, I upgraded myself from noob to average player. 

 

BUT, I have over 800 battles with Tiger I and I have never achieved Ace tanker with it, I have so many first class, but never Ace. And I have 2 gun marks on it, so at a moment I started to play it right, and yet I never got that Ace tanker. Should I be ashamed? Or the two gun marks are prove enough that I did not fail with this tank? 



AzoreanOutkast #2 Posted 11 September 2018 - 04:10 PM

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These days on some tanks is near impossible to go to the 3rd mark and the Ace tanker, cause of the fact they are playes so much that the bar is set way too high for a player to get there.

 

Dont feel bad, play on, if u get it good, if not, its not the end of the world.



Sfinski #3 Posted 11 September 2018 - 04:26 PM

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View PostAzoreanOutkast, on 11 September 2018 - 05:10 PM, said:

These days on some tanks is near impossible to go to the 3rd mark and the Ace tanker, cause of the fact they are playes so much that the bar is set way too high for a player to get there.

 

Dont feel bad, play on, if u get it good, if not, its not the end of the world.

 

The more tank is played the easier it is to ace, as more bad players play it. 

 

I have no idea what is enough for t7 ace, but I'd imagine 3,5-4,5k dmg would be enough. 



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View Postlime_vortep, on 11 September 2018 - 04:06 PM, said:

So...my very first tier VII tank was Tiger I. I started the game because of it. I made the huge mistake to grind it very fast and when I was still a crapplayer. I played it sooo bad at first. All i wanted is to have kills, didn't gave a damn about damage. I knew nothing of this game or how to play it. 

 

In time after I played other stuff, I upgraded myself from noob to average player. 

 

BUT, I have over 800 battles with Tiger I and I have never achieved Ace tanker with it, I have so many first class, but never Ace. And I have 2 gun marks on it, so at a moment I started to play it right, and yet I never got that Ace tanker. Should I be ashamed? Or the two gun marks are prove enough that I did not fail with this tank? 

 

You 2 marked a tier 7 tanks within your first 10k battles?

 

I'm actually proud my dude! Ignore the ace tanker, It'll come :)



BR33K1_PAWAH #5 Posted 11 September 2018 - 04:48 PM

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There is one thing about WoT you must learn right now, and never forget - never give a fock about some turd giving you shirt about your stats.

You shal never feel "ashamed" of how you play a video game, thats just ridiculous.

 

On the other hand, If you set a goal for yourself but you cant achieve in quite a while, then you clearly doing something wrong. Research the subject, improve yourself and eventually you will do it.

Just dont forget to hf in the process ;)



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View Postlime_vortep, on 11 September 2018 - 04:06 PM, said:

BUT, I have over 800 battles with Tiger I and I have never achieved Ace tanker with it, I have so many first class, but never Ace. And I have 2 gun marks on it, so at a moment I started to play it right, and yet I never got that Ace tanker. Should I be ashamed? Or the two gun marks are prove enough that I did not fail with this tank? 

 

You may not be doing epically in it but if you're playing consistently well in it then that's more use to the team overall.

BR33K1_PAWAH #7 Posted 11 September 2018 - 04:51 PM

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Btw, Ace is based on unmodified experience you get from a SINGLE battle, rather than MoE which is based on an AVERAGE damage. There is many-many things that affect exp you get, like kills, spotting, assist, etc...

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lime_vortep #8 Posted 11 September 2018 - 05:02 PM

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View Post_Sensation_, on 11 September 2018 - 04:46 PM, said:

 

You 2 marked a tier 7 tanks within your first 10k battles?

 

I'm actually proud my dude! Ignore the ace tanker, It'll come :)

 

I have two gun marks on Tiger I, SU-152, Jagdpanther and Object 704. The thing is that I have ace those several times yet I have more battles with Tiger I than all of those together. Yet never had that one amazing battle. 

 

Oh, well. It's not the end of the world. 



Danger__UXB #9 Posted 11 September 2018 - 05:22 PM

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800 battles is nothing ..

 

It took me mabye 1050 battles to ace my 1390 when it was a tier 8 http://wotreplays.eu...e/2302989#stats:(

 

 

It then took me another 200 battles to get a single gun mark on it:sceptic:

 

 

Gun marks are better as they are a sign of being consistant.



HassenderZerhacker #10 Posted 11 September 2018 - 05:27 PM

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I 3 marked the Tiger I not too long ago. 

The key with Tiger I is to survive as long as possible in order to be able to use its great gun for as long as possible. The Tiger I is not supposed to tank damage. Play it as a TD in the first half of the battle, then start hunting enemy leftovers. 



Sfinski #11 Posted 11 September 2018 - 05:31 PM

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View PostHassenderZerhacker, on 11 September 2018 - 06:27 PM, said:

I 3 marked the Tiger I not too long ago. 

The key with Tiger I is to survive as long as possible in order to be able to use its great gun for as long as possible. The Tiger I is not supposed to tank damage. Play it as a TD in the first half of the battle, then start hunting enemy leftovers. 

 

I mean, is there a tank where surviving and using your gun as long as possible isn't something you should try to do?

 

Also, no, do not play like a TD. You don't need to be right at the front, but you DO need to be close by and use your dpm when possible and your hitpoints if needed. 



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View Postlime_vortep, on 11 September 2018 - 04:06 PM, said:

 

BUT, I have over 800 battles with Tiger I and I have never achieved Ace tanker with it, I have so many first class, but never Ace. And I have 2 gun marks on it, so at a moment I started to play it right, and yet I never got that Ace tanker. Should I be ashamed?

 

Nope, ace tanker could be just one lucky battle.

HassenderZerhacker #13 Posted 11 September 2018 - 06:09 PM

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View PostSfinski, on 11 September 2018 - 05:31 PM, said:

 

I mean, is there a tank where surviving and using your gun as long as possible isn't something you should try to do?

 

Also, no, do not play like a TD. You don't need to be right at the front, but you DO need to be close by and use your dpm when possible and your hitpoints if needed. 

 

yes. when driving in a well armored heavy, you can soak up shots in order to shield allies.

in a Tiger I, you should avoid getting shot at.

 

by playing like a TD i mean shooting from long range while ideally keeping the enemy in render range without getting spotted yourself. 

the 8 degrees gun depression can also be used in combination with small ridges and bushes

 

hitpoints are much better used in the second half of the battle when there aren't too much enemies shooting at you

tiger I is always a prime target because of its poor armor.


Edited by HassenderZerhacker, 11 September 2018 - 06:12 PM.


TANKOPPRESSION #14 Posted 11 September 2018 - 06:40 PM

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Ace tanker and MOE are two different awards for performing in random battles and are very much MM match up dependant , aswell with luck and playing good in those battles   .

No Shame .

 



Sfinski #15 Posted 11 September 2018 - 07:03 PM

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View PostHassenderZerhacker, on 11 September 2018 - 07:09 PM, said:

 

yes. when driving in a well armored heavy, you can soak up shots in order to shield allies.

in a Tiger I, you should avoid getting shot at.

 

by playing like a TD i mean shooting from long range while ideally keeping the enemy in render range without getting spotted yourself. 

the 8 degrees gun depression can also be used in combination with small ridges and bushes

 

hitpoints are much better used in the second half of the battle when there aren't too much enemies shooting at you

tiger I is always a prime target because of its poor armor.

 

You can avoid getting shot at while not camping like a TD. 

 

 



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View Postlime_vortep, on 11 September 2018 - 03:06 PM, said:

So...my very first tier VII tank was Tiger I. I started the game because of it. I made the huge mistake to grind it very fast and when I was still a crapplayer. I played it sooo bad at first. All i wanted is to have kills, didn't gave a damn about damage. I knew nothing of this game or how to play it. 

 

In time after I played other stuff, I upgraded myself from noob to average player. 

 

BUT, I have over 800 battles with Tiger I and I have never achieved Ace tanker with it, I have so many first class, but never Ace. And I have 2 gun marks on it, so at a moment I started to play it right, and yet I never got that Ace tanker. Should I be ashamed? Or the two gun marks are prove enough that I did not fail with this tank? 

 

Random battles... random results.

 

Sometimes, you play an average game and get an Ace tanker, yet might play and kill 5 enemies and get just a First Class. 



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View PostSfinski, on 11 September 2018 - 07:03 PM, said:

You can avoid getting shot at while not camping like a TD.

 

call it as you want!

for me it's semi-camping.

it's more mobile than a TD, but still keeping distance to the enemy while maintaining line of fire.



Bennie182 #18 Posted 11 September 2018 - 08:15 PM

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View PostBR33K1_PAWAH, on 11 September 2018 - 04:51 PM, said:

Btw, Ace is based on unmodified experience you get from a SINGLE battle, rather than MoE which is based on an AVERAGE damage. There is many-many things that affect exp you get, like kills, spotting, assist, etc...

You are not fully right here. Marks are not only based on average damage, but based on both damage and assist damage combined.


Edited by Bennie182, 11 September 2018 - 08:22 PM.


catatpillar #19 Posted 11 September 2018 - 08:28 PM

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Ashamed? Only if you are below 43% win ratio for more than 20k battles.

I just checked your stats and you beat me with 2000 rating at that battle count you are. Guess i should be ashamed. :D



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