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speedphlux #1 Posted 11 September 2018 - 09:47 PM

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I'm usually not one to go super paranoid about stuff, but something caught my eyes tonite, in a weird AF Tier X only game on Paris. I'll just post the screenshot of the battle result teams page, with the names blurred out, just in case any mod goes super-nazyan on me.

 

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Please note, that out of the 10 players of the same clan, only 3 members have the Object 260 in their garage and they are all relatively new owners of the vehicles, with under 20 battles each. I'm guessing they managed to figure out that since it's prime time and most top-end players are doing ... clan stuff with their clans, they could force the MM to throw them together, by playing on the less populated server (EU2), where Clan Wars and Advances and such stuff, are being hosted on.

Since the map was Paris and it's not really suited for any sort of difficult mission being completed, it look quite awkward to see the enemy movement and how they knew which flank to attack first. Like in an instant the guys on my team knew that only an FV 4005 was guarding the north flank and pushed 2 tanks thru it immediately. Their FV of course, retreated in an instant, but before he did that, he fired 3 blind shots at where one of our Grilles were camping. Luckly - missing him. Or maybe unluckly ? Depending on which side you're on. Or the FV 4005 on my team, which was covering me and the pair of E-100 down south, missed a sitting side shot on the IS-7 from the enemy team. I mean, why would an IS-7 push into an FV 4005 side on, just to take a shot at an E-100, unless he knew he was not gonna get shot from him ? And before you starting thinking that maybe the FV was reloading and the IS-7 heard/saw him fire just now - that wasn't the case. The FV made two shots the entire game, both of which were after me and the E-100s down south were dead.

 

I would really like to see someone dig into this one a bit further, as I'm quite curious to what else it might pop up out of this one. Anyone else seen similar fashioned well-timed queues ? I know other people/clans doing sync-up queue at Tier X as well, but usually to mess each other's up and not to have awkward games like that. You guys think it's worth the report ? Or it's going to be yet another "we don't give a flying toss about it" kinda answer ?



Homer_J #2 Posted 11 September 2018 - 10:13 PM

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Good to see sync platoons are working again.

 

I somehow lost the point of your post though, which mission did they rig?



Nishi_Kinuyo #3 Posted 11 September 2018 - 10:19 PM

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View PostHomer_J, on 11 September 2018 - 10:13 PM, said:

Good to see sync platoons are working again.

 

I somehow lost the point of your post though, which mission did they rig?

Does it matter?

Rigging on this level is bad, plain and simple.



Dis4ster #4 Posted 11 September 2018 - 10:23 PM

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I'am sure that sync platoons are not allowed, its rigging the matchmaker to create bigger platoons than possible or for what ever reason, it leads to situations where one team has an unfair advantage against the other.

Homer_J #5 Posted 11 September 2018 - 10:27 PM

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View PostNishi_Kinuyo, on 11 September 2018 - 10:19 PM, said:

Does it matter?

Rigging on this level is bad, plain and simple.

It's not rigging if they didn't rig anything.

 

View PostDis4ster, on 11 September 2018 - 10:23 PM, said:

I'am sure that sync platoons are not allowed,

I'm sure they are.

 

We gave up on them when the player numbers started to make it not work any more.



wobblybob #6 Posted 11 September 2018 - 10:28 PM

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To get so many in one game must mean a large number on TS are counting in. Yes, WG will ban account or reset mission progress for this behaviour. Post screen shot to support.

RockyRoller #7 Posted 11 September 2018 - 10:29 PM

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its random luck to do this rather than Fishy. Set up two platoons, (platoons have MM weighting don't they) do a countdown (3 2 1 battle) and hit the battle icon at the same time. If you are lucky you end up on different sides so you can kill each other or rare but it happens the same side.

 

so only Fishy because you think so not because it is

 


Edited by RockyRoller, 11 September 2018 - 10:32 PM.


WindSplitter1 #8 Posted 11 September 2018 - 10:30 PM

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If it smells fishy, are you sure it isn't a Dinger's vault left open?

 

@Ontopic: first time I've seen this after the T-22/Rampage complaint.



Homer_J #9 Posted 11 September 2018 - 10:30 PM

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Chuff me, do you guys go calling the police every time two kids wearing hoodies walk past your house "because they might be burglars".

 

It's just some clan mates having some fun.  Something that a lot of people here seem determined to remove from the game.


Edited by Homer_J, 11 September 2018 - 10:31 PM.


Captain_Kremen0 #10 Posted 11 September 2018 - 10:37 PM

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View PostHomer_J, on 11 September 2018 - 09:30 PM, said:

Chuff me, do you guys go calling the police every time two kids wearing hoodies walk past your house "because they might be burglars".

 

It's just some clan mates having some fun.  Something that a lot of people here seem determined to remove from the game.

 

Well maybe, like hoodie thugs, they can have their [edited]fun somewhere else.

RockyRoller #11 Posted 11 September 2018 - 10:39 PM

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View PostHomer_J, on 11 September 2018 - 09:30 PM, said:

Chuff me, do you guys go calling the police every time two kids wearing hoodies walk past your house "because they might say a naughty word".

 

 

Only way to get the police to be near a no go zones these days is to call in the hate crime police to tackle the alt right naughty word gangs



vcristi #12 Posted 11 September 2018 - 10:40 PM

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View PostHomer_J, on 11 September 2018 - 09:30 PM, said:

Chuff me, do you guys go calling the police every time two kids wearing hoodies walk past your house "because they might be burglars".

 

It's just some clan mates having some fun.  Something that a lot of people here seem determined to remove from the game.

 

Those clan mates 'having some fun' are also ruining the game for the others and rigging missions.

 

 



unhappy_bunny #13 Posted 11 September 2018 - 10:43 PM

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As far as I can see, there is only 2 of them in a platoon as such. They must have been on comms and done the old countdown thingy and got lucky. I can see how it can be seen as unfair. If they are conspiring to help one of them, especially on the enemy team, to complete a mission, it is unfair on the other players. 

I have taken part in co-ordinated platoons. usually 2 platoons of 2, and if on opposite teams, we go all out to make sure we do our best to win. Even if one is trying for a mission, we only help if they are on the same team. But not everyone or every clan has a sense of fair play, and that is when I agree with people who complain about this. 



Balc0ra #14 Posted 11 September 2018 - 10:44 PM

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Already seen it twice. First time I had a 3 man FV and 183 platoon on my team. Enemy team had the same thing as their 3 top tiers. Both platoons from the same clan. My tier X's yoloed into their line of fire. And then mysteriously the enemy platoon knew exactly where to blind fire on our base camping TDs'. So... I suspect they did damage to TD misson or something. 

 

Then I've seen a med platoon vs a HT platoon from the same clan on each team. Just go to a corner an "bounce" on the HT's. I suspect for the 2x blocked mission. Once they had enough they split up and left the enemy med to go farm damage on different side of the map suddenly. 

 

Considering how easy the missions are. Even 2x blocked with most tier 6/7 tanks. I found it funny they needed to rig it. 

 



Homer_J #15 Posted 11 September 2018 - 10:49 PM

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View Postvcristi, on 11 September 2018 - 10:40 PM, said:

 

Those clan mates 'having some fun' are also ruining the game for the others and rigging missions.

 

 

 

There is no evidence of either.



Strappster #16 Posted 11 September 2018 - 10:54 PM

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View PostDis4ster, on 11 September 2018 - 09:23 PM, said:

I'am sure that sync platoons are not allowed ...

 

I'm sure they are, it's playing differently as a consequence that's frowned upon (i.e. coordination via teamspeak, etc.). Personally if I ever see another Dinger in battle I make a point of trying to spam them with gold and tell my team that they're known hackers. :great:



speedphlux #17 Posted 11 September 2018 - 11:11 PM

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I'm not sure if the platoon on the enemy team was created inside the battle or before the battle. Will have to check that one later.

 

Gonna give it a night's rest, sleep over it and watch the replay again in the morning and then make the call to report them or not. We all know fun ... and we all know shady behavior.



clixor #18 Posted 12 September 2018 - 12:02 AM

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I think a lot also depends on the time of the battle. If it prime time, it could be just be a clan having soms lolz. The serious t22 rigging was done at really strange hours where it's was obvious.

the_nebuchadnezzar #19 Posted 12 September 2018 - 12:20 AM

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10 ppl from the same clan in a battle? I'm sure no rigging took place...:facepalm:

speedphlux #20 Posted 12 September 2018 - 08:10 AM

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So, night was over, had a good sleep, drank my coffee, fully awake now, decided to watch the replay and give it a fresh perspective ... Figured there were too many odd things happening, so I went to try and report it and then this happened :

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Well played WG, well played !

EDIT P.S. : The 2nd platoon on the enemy team was created in battle, so every player from that clan was queued up as solo.


Edited by speedphlux, 12 September 2018 - 08:11 AM.





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