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Alice_Shimada_Chan #1 Posted 12 September 2018 - 03:14 PM

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German tier X tanks in current WoT are pretty mediocre at best, and some of them like E100 are basically obsolete garbage compared to some other tanks - like now new polish tier X heavy.

 

We have quite a lot tier X soviet tanks now, of various classes.. so I was thinking that  wargaming could add something for germany. I am talking of course about the gigantomaniac projects - Landkreuzer P. 1000 Ratte, and P. 1500 Monster.

 

If WG slightly decreased stats of these projects they were supposed to have IRL, they could be interesting addition to germany tech tree.

 

Ratte would be tier X superheavy, and Monster could be tier X amored TD (just give it some fictional turret, gun depression and it could be TD)

 

I don't want to make this topic very long, so informations about the "tanks" can be found on wiki and various military webs.

 

P. 1000 Ratte

 

P. 1500 Monster

 



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This is an actual design of the JagdPanzer E 100. It can be called JagdPanther E 100. It will have a monster armor. Look at that angle!

Grand_Moff_Tano #3 Posted 12 September 2018 - 03:23 PM

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I really hope you are joking and not being serious.
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This is an actual design of the JagdPanzer E 100. It can be called JagdPanther E 100. It will have a monster armor. Look at that angle!

 

I want to see a JagdMaus

 



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View PostGrand_Moff_Tano, on 12 September 2018 - 03:23 PM, said:

I really hope you are joking and not being serious.
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I want to see a JagdMaus

 

 

:D The Hunting Mouse! How the tables will turn!

Grand_Moff_Tano #5 Posted 12 September 2018 - 03:33 PM

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View Postlime_vortep, on 12 September 2018 - 02:31 PM, said:

 

:D The Hunting Mouse! How the tables will turn!

 



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Thank you for additional ideas, especially the Jagdmaus looks really interesting :popcorn:

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View Postlime_vortep, on 12 September 2018 - 02:22 PM, said:

This is an actual design of the JagdPanzer E 100. It can be called JagdPanther E 100. It will have a monster armor. Look at that angle!

 

We already have that as the jagdcancer e 100. The last thing we need is more dumb-rear armour "I-click-for-half-of-your-HP-or-more" or heavy tanks.

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View PostAlice_Shimada_Chan, on 12 September 2018 - 03:14 PM, said:

German tier X tanks in current WoT are pretty mediocre at best, and some of them like E100 are basically obsolete garbage compared to some other tanks - like now new polish tier X heavy.

 

We have quite a lot tier X soviet tanks now, of various classes.. so I was thinking that  wargaming could add something for germany. I am talking of course about the gigantomaniac projects - Landkreuzer P. 1000 Ratte, and P. 1500 Monster.

 

If WG slightly decreased stats of these projects they were supposed to have IRL, they could be interesting addition to germany tech tree.

 

Ratte would be tier X superheavy, and Monster could be tier X amored TD (just give it some fictional turret, gun depression and it could be TD)

 

I don't want to make this topic very long, so informations about the "tanks" can be found on wiki and various military webs.

 

P. 1000 Ratte

 

P. 1500 Monster

 

 

i see only one problem here...

those vehicles are...just BIGGER THAN CURRENT MAPS ! :D

 

so, yes...i would like to see them in game, especially on some special game modes (permanent ones, of course) but...they simply wont be able to move because lack of space :teethhappy:



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View PostAlice_Shimada_Chan, on 12 September 2018 - 03:14 PM, said:

German tier X tanks in current WoT are pretty mediocre at best, and some of them like E100 are basically obsolete garbage compared to some other tanks - like now new polish tier X heavy.

 

We have quite a lot tier X soviet tanks now, of various classes.. so I was thinking that  wargaming could add something for germany. I am talking of course about the gigantomaniac projects - Landkreuzer P. 1000 Ratte, and P. 1500 Monster.

 

If WG slightly decreased stats of these projects they were supposed to have IRL, they could be interesting addition to germany tech tree.

 

Ratte would be tier X superheavy, and Monster could be tier X amored TD (just give it some fictional turret, gun depression and it could be TD)

 

I don't want to make this topic very long, so informations about the "tanks" can be found on wiki and various military webs.

 

P. 1000 Ratte

 

P. 1500 Monster

 

 

Oh Lordy that landcruiser, a German TOG but with style, I think WG should make a super TOG, hell they make up plenty of other things:D

Strizi #10 Posted 13 September 2018 - 01:21 AM

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They should give germany the Kpz 70 with the 120mm cannon. Its a shame russia got so many t10 and germany only got 2 t10 meds :angry::facepalm:

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MBT-70



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View Postlime_vortep, on 12 September 2018 - 03:22 PM, said:

This is an actual design of the JagdPanzer E 100. It can be called JagdPanther E 100. It will have a monster armor. Look at that angle!

 E-100 Crocodile

 

http://forum.worldof...-100-crocodile/



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View PostStrizi, on 13 September 2018 - 01:21 AM, said:

They should give germany the Kpz 70 with the 120mm cannon. Its a shame russia got so many t10 and germany only got 2 t10 meds :angry::facepalm:

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MBT-70

 

Kpz would be too modern according to WG, same with the Chieftain, but the STB-1 is okay...

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They should add this Austrian beauty as a tier X German light tank: the SK 105 Kürassier

Yes, that is an L7 105mm.

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View PostStrizi, on 13 September 2018 - 01:21 AM, said:

They should give germany the Kpz 70 with the 120mm cannon. Its a shame russia got so many t10 and germany only got 2 t10 meds :angry::facepalm:

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MBT-70

 

Er that would be horrifically OP.  It's a second generation MBT.

 

I like that Austrian light tank though, that could work as it's an L7. 



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I wanna sidescrape with the Ratte in Himmelsdorf  :hiding:

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View Postbrevlada, on 13 September 2018 - 10:15 AM, said:

 

Kpz would be too modern according to WG, same with the Chieftain, but the STB-1 is okay...

 

It's not strictly the design age, but the main gun. Kpz mount a smoothbore, that is not acceptable in WoT. STB-1 is the first implementation of the tank and mounted a rifled gun, so can get in. Chieftain MK6 have a rifled gun too, in fact it will be introduced soon™.

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Kpz also had a rifled gun, but its armour is problematic  not composite armour, but just as effective 

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View PostGrand_Moff_Tano, on 13 September 2018 - 01:28 PM, said:

Kpz also had a rifled gun, but its armour is problematic  not composite armour, but just as effective 

 

Pretty much every element of that tank would be problematic, it's essentially a prototype before the M1 Abrams and Leopard 2, as due to all the kinks and issues of the design if they had carried on with it, it would have probably meant that the tank didn't hit production until the mid to late 1970s. It would have considerably better armour, firepower and mobility than any other tank in the game. 

Strizi #19 Posted 13 September 2018 - 10:40 PM

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After all these overpowered russian tanks with unhistorical stats (especially armor, gunhandling and reload time) it wouldnt cause too much trouble anymore to implement it. Atleast they could add another version of the leopard so we can choose between mobility and (turret)armor. Of course they need to buff the current leopard first to the best gunhandling  in the game.

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View Post_6i6_, on 13 September 2018 - 12:07 PM, said:

I wanna sidescrape with the Ratte in Himmelsdorf  :hiding:

 

​I can see that working well. 

 







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