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What do you think about the Polish line as whole?

  1. Its OP (8 votes [12.70%])

    Percentage of vote: 12.70%

  2. Its great (3 votes [4.76%])

    Percentage of vote: 4.76%

  3. Its good (10 votes [15.87%])

    Percentage of vote: 15.87%

  4. Its average (17 votes [26.98%])

    Percentage of vote: 26.98%

  5. Its sub-par (5 votes [7.94%])

    Percentage of vote: 7.94%

  6. Its bad (2 votes [3.17%])

    Percentage of vote: 3.17%

  7. Its terrible (4 votes [6.35%])

    Percentage of vote: 6.35%

  8. Its the worst line ever (14 votes [22.22%])

    Percentage of vote: 22.22%

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leggasiini #1 Posted 12 September 2018 - 08:05 PM

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The Polish line review

Siema PL!!!!11

 

Since the Polish high-tiers were announced, my interest in this line immediately grew up. I adore high-alpha guns and slow, heavily armored tanks, especially if they look stupid and goofy. And that's exactly what the 60TP Lewandowskiego is. I already promised myself twice already that I would never make a "grind-marathon" like I did with Swedish HTs and French 2nd HT line back in 2016 and 2017, respectively. But I couldn't resist it. I had to get the tank ASAP and since I haven't done stuff regarding the "improved and expanded" Japanese tech tree in a long while either (although, slowly but surely I have been working on Japanese MT rework + 2nd MT line proposal, which is actually technically finished when it comes to all material, but there are things I want to improve and change on it. Don't expect it anytime soon in near future). Then test server came, I played more games in it than any other test server ever (this includes even the 9.10 test server that brought Japanese heavies). When patchday came, I grinded like a crazy. Literally non-stop. Ugh. I got the 60TP in Sunday - only 4 days after the patchday. I grinded all way from tier 5, although I did use free XP on modules and at one tank. And...here we are.

 

Because the review is so long, I had to divide it into 2 posts - introduction + tier 1-7 and tier 8-10, aftermath and TL;DR. Since there is going to a gigantic wall of text, a TL;DR is a reasonable option and I recommend to check that if you are not willing to sit and spend some time to read the review.

 

Anyway, let's begin.

 

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Like I already said, I used quite a bit of a free XP on the grind. I skipped tier 1-4 entirely, skipped most of the stock grinds (only modules I grinded were the tracks of the tier 8 and turret + tracks of the tier 9) and skipped half of the tier 6 with free XP. However, other than that, I grinded the tanks without using free XP.

 

I never played the tier 1-4, as lowtiers are well...lowtiers, I don't personally give a damn about them and generally haven't even featured them on some of my reviews, but I'll just say short impressions what I think about them when looking at their stats:

 

4TP: It's a tier 1.  I can't even really rate it since tier 1 is such a mess and anyone has free XP to skip to tier 2, but it seems okay-ish for tier 1 so I guess it's something.

 

7TP: It has the biggest historical value of the line, but that's about it. Extremely generic overall, has pretty good alpha but pretty crap armor so autocannons will eat you from alive and it's not particularly mobile. It offers really nothing when it comes to gameplay so it's a pass. Weak armor without exceptionally good gun kinda hurts, though. 5/10

 

10TP: Much like the Chi-Ha. Has quite a bit better mobility but way worse gun (other than gun handling that is slightly better), worse view range and worse gun depression (although -12 is still great). It's playable, but it's mediocre at best. 5.5/10

 

14TP: Has two gun options - 40mm autocannon and 47mm single-shot. Don't use the 47mm, it's absolutely terrible - it's only a marginal improvement from the tier 3, which makes it just awful at tier 4. 40mm Pompom has good clip potential, but mediocre pen and awful aim time, especially compared to the Covenanter. In fact, this tank as whole is just a terrible Covenanter. Also the stock gun is absolutely abysmal - try to save free XP to skip past it. It has less than 40mm pen, at tier 4. Yes. 3.5/10

 

Basically lowtiers are bad and/or uninteresting so you can just skip through them if you want. You won't miss anything.

 

25TP KSUST II (tier V)

 

40TP Habicha (tier VI)

 

45TP Habicha (tier VII)

 


Edited by leggasiini, 13 September 2018 - 10:07 AM.


leggasiini #2 Posted 12 September 2018 - 08:08 PM

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53TP Markowskiego (tier VIII)

 

50TP Tyszkiewicza (tier IX)

 

60TP Lewandowskiego (tier X)
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Is the line worth it?

 

It's a long and harsh grind. Lowtiers are between mediocre and terrible, tier 4-5 are practically unplayable when stock, tier 6 is beyond awful, tier 7 is not very good + frustrating to play, and the tier 8 has abysmal and long stock grind. The grind is certainly one of the worst in the entire game. That being said, the tier 8 and 10, when fully upgraded, are powerhouses and great fun. The tier 9 is also a capable, competitive vehicle. But are they worth the harsh grind?

 

Yes...

 

  • if you really like B I G  G U N S
  • if you really like the hulldown playstyle
  • if you really like heavies in general and don't mind if your tanks are not amazingly mobile
  • or if you just happen to really like/want Polish tanks for some reason

 

If any of the points above are true, then yeah, it's worth it. I, personally, like big guns, hulldown playstyle and don't mind the speed at all, so the line was absolutely worth it for me.

 

If you have free XP and want to use it on some line, this line is a pretty strong candidate for that.  Terrible stock grinds AND some stinkers at low-mid tiers. This line is a great pick if you want to burn some of your free XP on something.

 

If we go solely from the tier 10, the 60TP is a great, fun vehicle. I can't see it being very useful in competitive formats, but in randoms, it's a great pubstomper. If you're looking for a fun tier 10, the 60TP is a good pick.

 

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TL;DR:

 

  • lowtiers are skippable
  • stock grinds suck
  • tier 5 is meh, a fast Chi-Nu with even worse gun handling
  • tier 6 is a giant piece of sh*t, skip with free XP if possible
  • tier 7 is mediocre
  • tier 9 is good
  • tier 8 and 10 are great
  • CAN WG STOP MAKING DEDICATED FREE XP PITS REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
  • o kurwa
  • i like crayons

 

That's all folks!.


Edited by leggasiini, 13 September 2018 - 09:59 AM.


Balc0ra #3 Posted 12 September 2018 - 08:12 PM

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I skipped to tier 5 and actually liked it. It's basically a way more mobile Chi-Nu-Kai with a narrower profile. Great in a support role etc even when not top tier as it can relocate fast. 

 

Tier 6 I can't even get around to grind. It's so slow and sluggish. They said it would be slow due to the armor. But... it has no armor that works. Even a Stug IV rapes you with AP on a ridgeline. That and unlike the Italian... its not even good at one thing. It does nothing "meh" even. That includes a support role. It's actually worse then the 65t. I thought that would be hard to do. But this is actually slower too. 



UserZer00 #4 Posted 12 September 2018 - 08:44 PM

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I saw that the lower tiers were free experience pits, tried it to tier IV anyway as I was frustrated with the low tier Italian tanks and got so pissed off at WG for their lack of respect for low tier balancing that I gave up on the whole line.

 

Not going there again.



ArkSyve #5 Posted 12 September 2018 - 09:18 PM

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Crayon

Lord_Barbarozza #6 Posted 12 September 2018 - 09:32 PM

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Best tank review I have seen so far, especially in written form. At least no one complains the polish line is overpowered.

malachi6 #7 Posted 12 September 2018 - 09:33 PM

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I actually think the 25TP is more pay to play than the tier 6.  With the tier 6 you can at least have an "okay" gun to start. Plus the 90mm has that 240 alpha and pretty good pen.  With the 25TP you will need 10,000 free XP to get to what is quite a good tier 5.  Tier 6 is okay if you play it like slow heavy  but definitely not a keeper.1

WindSplitter1 #8 Posted 12 September 2018 - 10:06 PM

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So first tiers are bad, huh?

 

[edited], japierd¨le



The_Georgian_One #9 Posted 13 September 2018 - 08:35 AM

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Excellent review! I do have a different opinion on tier 7 tho. I think this is a pretty decent tank, one of the better tier 7 heavies.

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Thanks Legga, just to note in the 60TP review, under the armour section you have the comment about the UFP twice.

 

I am just waiting to get the last amount of free XP to unlock the top gun on the tier 8 to get my grind underway, I like the look of all the vehicles and like you I think hull down + alpha is a fun combo. 



Bexleyheath #11 Posted 13 September 2018 - 09:17 AM

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Although Im a little disapointed that the polish tanks are sub-par, it is very good that WG introduced a new line of tanks without powercreeping the already existing tanks.

Evilier_than_Skeletor #12 Posted 13 September 2018 - 09:30 AM

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This review is borderline OP, thanks for writing it.

FizzleMcSnizzle #13 Posted 13 September 2018 - 09:32 AM

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Here is my impression of the tier X: Rumble rumble rumble... BANG... Peoooooowwwww.... BANG.... Peooooowwwwww..... Rumble rumble rumble.

I also do a fantastic Batchat.

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View PostSimeon85, on 13 September 2018 - 10:10 AM, said:

Thanks Legga, just to note in the 60TP review, under the armour section you have the comment about the UFP twice.

 

I am just waiting to get the last amount of free XP to unlock the top gun on the tier 8 to get my grind underway, I like the look of all the vehicles and like you I think hull down + alpha is a fun combo. 

 

Thanks for noticing that.

 

Among with that, also changed the formatting a bit - I removed the spoilers that were inside the spoilers. I felt like all the repetitive clicking can be annoying when reading the review, so... :P



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View PostBexleyheath, on 13 September 2018 - 09:17 AM, said:

Although Im a little disapointed that the polish tanks are sub-par, it is very good that WG introduced a new line of tanks without powercreeping the already existing tanks.

 

Yea, because before "Polish' HT get soviet like turret, all tanks are crap or below average. Thing that are on tier 8 to 10 are WG interpretation with added Soviet love, that why those tanks are ok or good. 

Revanche25 #16 Posted 13 September 2018 - 03:41 PM

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A comparison of 4TP which a group of forum members working on a Polish tree made in the opinion of historical 4TP data.

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View Postleggasiini, on 12 September 2018 - 07:05 PM, said:

What do you think about the Polish line as whole?

 

 

it's balanced.



OIias_of_Sunhillow #18 Posted 13 September 2018 - 09:11 PM

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So bad, so it appears.

And yet, curiously, Polish tanks seem so popular.



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View PostOIias_of_Sunhillow, on 13 September 2018 - 09:11 PM, said:

So bad, so it appears.

And yet, curiously, Polish tanks seem so popular.

 

Blame large player base from a certain nation.

snowlywhite #20 Posted 14 September 2018 - 08:34 AM

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given I'm not interested in tier 10 and tier 8 MM is tier 8 MM... line seems beyond horrid.





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