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SevernaSnaga #1 Posted 14 September 2018 - 01:04 AM

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Please tell me i $uck at aiming (first few minutes of video)

So many shots went over that Excelsior its not even funny......

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Homer_J #2 Posted 14 September 2018 - 01:34 AM

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The first shot you fire with the centre of the aim circle not even over the tank, after that you shoot with your aim circle about four times the size of the enemy tank.  One of the shots was centred on his cupola.  And a few times you have this little jerky movement as you fire making your aim go wide.  That is why you missed.

 

So yes, you suck at aiming.

 

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Watching some more.  I see you aren't complaining about the lucky shots you got against the PzIV and Type 64, or the P43 snapshot or the pixel sniping at the churchill III which should have missed.

 

Shame the ELC didn't have your luck.



SevernaSnaga #3 Posted 14 September 2018 - 02:17 AM

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View PostHomer_J, on 14 September 2018 - 01:34 AM, said:

The first shot you fire with the centre of the aim circle not even over the tank, after that you shoot with your aim circle about four times the size of the enemy tank.  One of the shots was centred on his cupola.  And a few times you have this little jerky movement as you fire making your aim go wide.  That is why you missed.

 

So yes, you suck at aiming.

 

Happy now?

00:39 Added after 5 minutes

Watching some more.  I see you aren't complaining about the lucky shots you got against the PzIV and Type 64, or the P43 snapshot or the pixel sniping at the churchill III which should have missed.

 

Shame the ELC didn't have your luck.

 

Those shots on Pz,Type and Ch were pure skill, but about shots on Excelsior, i did have high ping, so my client could have shown something diffrent than what really happend, i will watch it again myself later.

This tank is fairly accurate, so those Type, P43 and Pz 4 are common thing, what isnt common is to miss 5 times at 20m range



Homer_J #4 Posted 14 September 2018 - 02:33 AM

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View PostSevernaSnaga, on 14 September 2018 - 02:17 AM, said:

 

Those shots on Pz,Type and Ch were pure skill,

 

I see, when you hit a snapshot with your aim circle half the size of the screen it's skill.  When you miss then it's RNG out to get you.



Balc0ra #5 Posted 14 September 2018 - 02:40 AM

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View PostSevernaSnaga, on 14 September 2018 - 02:17 AM, said:

 

Those shots on Pz,Type and Ch were pure skill, but about shots on Excelsior, i did have high ping, so my client could have shown something diffrent than what really happend, i will watch it again myself later.

This tank is fairly accurate, so those Type, P43 and Pz 4 are common thing, what isnt common is to miss 5 times at 20m range

 

To be fair, he was 189m away, not 20m. And fully aimed you have about 0.36 dispersion pr 100m.  And you moved back and forth vs a 91 pen gun that can't even pen your mantle. And that you fired when the Excelsior was covering not even half the circle aim, so a fairly large chance to miss. As you did fire the second you had a short pause in your back and forth movement. But the aim had not settled yet. The gun is accurate indeed. But not when you add dispersion values when moving and turning the turret on top of the almost 200m you had on your 0.36 base. 

 

That said... nice paint combo. 


Edited by Balc0ra, 14 September 2018 - 02:40 AM.


Homer_J #6 Posted 14 September 2018 - 02:47 AM

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View PostSevernaSnaga, on 14 September 2018 - 02:17 AM, said:

 

 miss 5 times at 20m range

 

You might want to check that distance again.

 

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View PostSevernaSnaga, on 14 September 2018 - 02:17 AM, said:

 

 pure skill,

 

This is the moment you fire, possibly in reaction to the incoming shot, which by luck bounced.

 

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Overall you had more good luck than bad, but at least it shows that luck isn't determined at the start of the battle, in this one it went from bad to good and back to bad again.


 

malachi6 #7 Posted 14 September 2018 - 06:40 AM

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I do hope the pure skill comment was a joke.  Sadly, it probably was not.

SevernaSnaga #8 Posted 14 September 2018 - 10:27 AM

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View Postmalachi6, on 14 September 2018 - 06:40 AM, said:

I do hope the pure skill comment was a joke.  Sadly, it probably was not.

 

i was joking ofc
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View PostHomer_J, on 14 September 2018 - 03:02 AM, said:

 

This is the moment you fire, possibly in reaction to the incoming shot, which by luck bounced.

 

Posted Image

 

Overall you had more good luck than bad, but at least it shows that luck isn't determined at the start of the battle, in this one it went from bad to good and back to bad again.

 

Im used to hit a lot of those shots, thats why i thought my Excelsior fight was unlucky, but RNG payed me back later.

And about cap reset, if i missed, i would use that ridge to be able to see whole Ch turret and reset then

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View PostHomer_J, on 14 September 2018 - 02:47 AM, said:

 

You might want to check that distance again.

 

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thats about 50% covered in him(a bit less than 50 but still), and since its moslty common for shell to go on the middle of aiming circle and not far sides, i still find it unlucky i missed all those shots.

There was a lot of space over that Excelsior, but for 5 shots to go there, i really dont know...

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View PostBalc0ra, on 14 September 2018 - 02:40 AM, said:

 

 

To be fair, he was 189m away, not 20m. And fully aimed you have about 0.36 dispersion pr 100m.  And you moved back and forth vs a 91 pen gun that can't even pen your mantle. And that you fired when the Excelsior was covering not even half the circle aim, so a fairly large chance to miss. As you did fire the second you had a short pause in your back and forth movement. But the aim had not settled yet. The gun is accurate indeed. But not when you add dispersion values when moving and turning the turret on top of the almost 200m you had on your 0.36 base. 

 

That said... nice paint combo. 

 

most of excelsior drivers press 2, and he could still pen my cupola so thats why i went back and forth(to make it a harder target)



Homer_J #9 Posted 14 September 2018 - 03:45 PM

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View PostSevernaSnaga, on 14 September 2018 - 10:27 AM, said:

 

i still find it unlucky i missed all those shots.
 

It was.  But that's all it was.  OTOH that snapshot on the Type64 and the prem ammo you bounced was pure good luck.






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