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FluffyRedFox #1 Posted 15 September 2018 - 07:36 PM

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Apologies if there's already been a thread on it, but I haven't seen any. Yesterday it was revealed that the Obj432 entered supertest as a tier 8 light tank:

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For those that are unaware of what the Object-432 is, it was a development of the Object 430 that featured a new 115mm smoothbore along with an autoloader, making what used to be a 4-man crew like in the T-62 to a 3-man crew. It was also the first Soviet vehicle to feature composite armour, and it entered production in 1963 as the T-64, with more than 13,000 being produced.

How the heck this translates into a tier 8 light, I don't know. In-game, it'll be called the LT-432 and its currently being tested with 2 guns: An accurate and well-handling 85mm, and a larger alpha but less well-handling 100mm. At the moment, I'm rooting for the 85mm as the gun bloom is fairly ridiculous at something like 0.10 / 0.10 / 0.08 for hull / traverse / turret, however at the same time the 100mm looks interesting as it has pen that is comparable to same tier mediums.

 

While I don't think the tank itself is overpowered, it does make me a bit sad that it completely outclasses the LTTB. While the hull armour is worse on the obj432 (116mm effective upper plate, compared to LTTBs 150mm or so upper plate), it has comparable mobility while possessing a better gun, better turret armour, a lower profile and better gun depression. With the 100mm, it will also outclass the WZ-132.

 

If released as a prem, I think I'll buy it as the only Russian LT prem I have is the Val 2, and it does look a lot of fun to play. However, it could end up like the T-44 lwt and never be released, or it could be released as some other reward tank thingie. 



WindSplitter1 #2 Posted 15 September 2018 - 07:44 PM

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If Obj. 432 = T-64

 

Then why is this an LT?

 

And if it will be featurd as an LT, why is it vastly superiour with its current stats?


Edited by WindSplitter1, 15 September 2018 - 07:46 PM.


Erwin_Von_Braun #3 Posted 15 September 2018 - 07:45 PM

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Interesting.

I like LT's

 



MrEdweird #4 Posted 15 September 2018 - 08:04 PM

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It definitely looks like it has a T-64 style hull, but obviously the gun and turret are way too small. Perhaps it is a prototype light variation of it. They will probably chnage the name.

Obviously no composite armor.



FluffyRedFox #5 Posted 15 September 2018 - 08:26 PM

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View PostMrEdweird, on 15 September 2018 - 07:04 PM, said:

It definitely looks like it has a T-64 style hull, but obviously the gun and turret are way too small. Perhaps it is a prototype light variation of it. They will probably chnage the name.

Obviously no composite armor.

I think its likely that the obj432 had a lot of knock-off designs to it, and this is the result of one of those.

The Russian did like putting tiny turrets onto heavy-tank platforms after all 

 



Vokatius #6 Posted 15 September 2018 - 11:09 PM

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Mhhh I can sense some stronk historical accuracy - I wonder why WG hasn't introduced secret nazi Ufo tank projects as tier 8 premiums yet.

Aikl #7 Posted 15 September 2018 - 11:21 PM

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View PostVokatius, on 15 September 2018 - 10:09 PM, said:

Mhhh I can sense some stronk historical accuracy - I wonder why WG hasn't introduced secret nazi Ufo tank projects as tier 8 premiums yet.

 

It's been known for years that the Germans are a bit more reluctant to open their archives than the Russians are. It took something like two years for Wargaming to implement the RU251 - despite it sitting in a museum. It'd probably take twice that if it had a swastika on it.

 

One could hope, though. The paper projects for planes were rather impressive.



Bordhaw #8 Posted 16 September 2018 - 04:26 PM

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View PostFluffyRedFox, on 15 September 2018 - 06:36 PM, said:

Apologies if there's already been a thread on it, but I haven't seen any. Yesterday it was revealed that the Obj432 entered supertest as a tier 8 light tank:

 

If released as a prem, I think I'll buy it as the only Russian LT prem I have is the Val 2, and it does look a lot of fun to play. However, it could end up like the T-44 lwt and never be released, or it could be released as some other reward tank thingie. 

 

http://forum.worldoftanks.eu/index.php?/forum/2887-supertest-news/



FluffyRedFox #9 Posted 16 September 2018 - 05:54 PM

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View PostBordhaw, on 16 September 2018 - 03:26 PM, said:

Ok? Whats your point with this?



Bordhaw #10 Posted 16 September 2018 - 07:57 PM

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View PostFluffyRedFox, on 16 September 2018 - 04:54 PM, said:

Ok? Whats your point with this?

 

http://forum.worldoftanks.eu/index.php?/topic/684893-supertest-news-1409-t-50-2-and-object-432/

FluffyRedFox #11 Posted 16 September 2018 - 08:16 PM

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You do realise that I said the only Russian LT I had and did not imply that the Val 2 was the only Russian light prem?

It is 2 words after what you bolded, is reading full sentences that hard?



lord_chipmonk #12 Posted 16 September 2018 - 10:20 PM

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View PostFluffyRedFox, on 15 September 2018 - 07:36 PM, said:

with an autoloader

 

Oh gawd, not another one.



FluffyRedFox #13 Posted 16 September 2018 - 10:30 PM

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View Postlord_chipmonk, on 16 September 2018 - 09:20 PM, said:

 

Oh gawd, not another one.

That was the history behind the IRL Obj432, the in-game version has a standard single-shot gun.



lord_chipmonk #14 Posted 16 September 2018 - 10:35 PM

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View PostFluffyRedFox, on 16 September 2018 - 10:30 PM, said:

That was the history behind the IRL Obj432, the in-game version has a standard single-shot gun.

 

Ah. Reading comprehension fail on my part. Cheers. :)

Baldrickk #15 Posted 16 September 2018 - 11:26 PM

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Turret like that, it should have 0 gun dep and it has -7? Wtf? Does that gun not have a breach or something?

Edited by Baldrickk, 16 September 2018 - 11:27 PM.


NoobySkooby #16 Posted 16 September 2018 - 11:36 PM

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View PostBaldrickk, on 16 September 2018 - 11:26 PM, said:

Turret like that, it should have 0 gun dep and it has -7? Wtf? Does that gun not have a breach or something?

 

I know that, you know that, we know that the devs know that, but it is Russian, s magic will happen and it will be made of Stalinium:D

Search_Warrant #17 Posted 16 September 2018 - 11:39 PM

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View PostBaldrickk, on 16 September 2018 - 10:26 PM, said:

Turret like that, it should have 0 gun dep and it has -7? Wtf? Does that gun not have a breach or something?

 

Speshul russian magiks



Simeon85 #18 Posted 17 September 2018 - 08:39 AM

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It's a mini T-100 lt.

 

Hoping they bring it out like that, that is what a tier 8 light tank should look like IMO, Lttb should be buffed up to it's level.

 

What annoys me is that it has there barely 150 less DPM than the tier 10 and gets 0.35 accuracy, whilst the tier 10 gets 0.42. Just shows how butchered the tier 10 lights are. 

 

A tier 8 premium light is allowed to have decent DPM, accuracy and pen for it's tier, but the tier 10 lights have to have crap accuracy, pen and DPM for their tiers. 







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