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the_nebuchadnezzar #1 Posted 15 September 2018 - 11:40 PM

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I would like to make a little experiment and I would like a few volunteers. So, I would like you to right down the result of every battle when a team have an Obj 907 and the other one is not. Did the team with 907 won or lost. And after 100 battles post you results here. For good measure, do a printscreen of them battles results... just in case! Of course, this can be done with every tank, but I think Obj 907 is one of those tanks that decide the result of a battle much too often. But before I can say this I need some proof. So, anyone here wanna be „scientist“? :hiding: Thx alot! 

Edited by the_nebuchadnezzar, 15 September 2018 - 11:42 PM.


Totieso #2 Posted 15 September 2018 - 11:45 PM

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Yeap. 907 autoaims and automoves

zlaja031 #3 Posted 15 September 2018 - 11:49 PM

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View PostTotieso, on 15 September 2018 - 10:45 PM, said:

Yeap. 907 autoaims and automoves

 

And autopens. 

vcristi #4 Posted 15 September 2018 - 11:50 PM

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View Postthe_nebuchadnezzar, on 15 September 2018 - 10:40 PM, said:

I would like to make a little experiment and I would like a few volunteers. So, I would like you to right down the result of every battle when a team have an Obj 907 and the other one is not. Did the team with 907 won or lost. And after 100 battles post you results here. For good measure, do a printscreen of them battles results... just in case! Of course, this can be done with every tank, but I think Obj 907 is one of those tanks that decide the result of a battle much too often. But before I can say this I need some proof. So, anyone here wanna be „scientist“? :hiding: Thx alot! 

 

Have you thought that if someone is having 907, that guy/girl most be at least a decent player?

You just compare a decent player that you have as ally/enemy to some random tomato with a 140 or any other med. All reward tanks from campaigns are driven by decent/good players, deal with it.

 

P.S.: If WG would make reward tanks trash no one would play CW campaigns.

     Oh, maybe tomatoes would play to get a crap tank just to be able to stroll with his 'limited edition' vehicle in randoms, but that would invalidate all the competitiveness of CW campaigns.


Edited by vcristi, 15 September 2018 - 11:54 PM.


Andrasan89 #5 Posted 16 September 2018 - 12:01 AM

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youre focused on the wrong tank....not 907 is the game changer...

gamechangers are those tanks WITHOUT WEAKPOINTS....because players wich DONT SPAM GOLD simply cant pen them and that means LOSE. This hapen in a lot of matches...unfortunately

 

if you want names..:

Type5, BOBJ, 430U, Defender, Chrysler...etc

 

those are the turds wich can change  everything if enemys DONT PAY TO COUNTER THEM, and that means a big loss for team wich in 95% of cases means match lost.

 

after that 907 is driven by skilled enough players...because you know, they EARNED IT...but those turds from above are driven by ANYONE and still can have bigger impact :facepalm:

 

907 is just trollish...nothing more.

 

*i just had a game with my WZ1111x#$%^1-4 and at final i was against a "balanced" 430U on Ruinberg, both hulldown. Guess what? Cant do ANYTHING against him (if i dont pay, of course) because his f# cupolas are 300+mm THICK !! But he can do against me !

This would NEVER HAPPEN AGAINS A 907 !


Edited by Andrasan89, 16 September 2018 - 12:06 AM.


XxKuzkina_MatxX #6 Posted 16 September 2018 - 12:30 AM

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Countless times I've seen those "precious" 907s crash and burn driven by them decent players...and M60s and 121b, it's a myth.

 

Give it to any number of players, regardless of how good they are, and you'll get mixed results.

 

I think the concept of an invincible tank in tier 10 is very diluted by things like: high pen guns, too much armor, stupid alpha like the FVs, etc.



xtrem3x #7 Posted 16 September 2018 - 12:57 AM

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I had a game in my Conqueror Gun Carriage tonight.

Hit a 907 for 1,100 damage.

 

Didn't seem OP to me...

He did a whopping 530 damage but his team did win so maybe you're right :ohmy:



wremise #8 Posted 16 September 2018 - 01:38 AM

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obj is crap! I have one too, and I cant own the whole enemy team, so its a fawking craptanku!!!

 

btw, I really dont like the tank, I dont know why people think that tnku is o good.

 



Enforcer1975 #9 Posted 16 September 2018 - 03:04 AM

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You could basically do the same when one team has a Type 4 or 5 or a Bobject or a Cyka Conquistador or any broken tank and the other team doesn't...

Robbie_T #10 Posted 16 September 2018 - 03:10 AM

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My type 5 dont fear Obj 907

catatpillar #11 Posted 16 September 2018 - 04:34 AM

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907 lost only one game where i played against it, won all other... One of the best win ratio tanks, according to vbaddict.

Homer_J #12 Posted 16 September 2018 - 05:49 AM

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View Postthe_nebuchadnezzar, on 15 September 2018 - 11:40 PM, said:

But before I can say this I need some proof. 

Can you not just get the EU server win rates off whatever stats site you like?



spuriousmonkey #13 Posted 16 September 2018 - 07:31 AM

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View PostHomer_J, on 16 September 2018 - 06:49 AM, said:

Can you not just get the EU server win rates off whatever stats site you like?

 

That's too simple.

duijm #14 Posted 16 September 2018 - 08:44 AM

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View Postspuriousmonkey, on 16 September 2018 - 06:31 AM, said:

 

That's too simple.

Than maybe the fact it is always picked before the object 140 in advance or cw?  So lets be honoust. It is Op.



NUKLEAR_SLUG #15 Posted 16 September 2018 - 08:53 AM

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View Postvcristi, on 15 September 2018 - 11:50 PM, said:

 

Have you thought that if someone is having 907, that guy/girl most be at least a decent player?

 

Having seen some of the potatoes that seem to own them that seems not the case, but then apparently if you have the cash to burn I've heard you can get some clans to 'sell' you a slot for one so I guess that's no surprise.



jugilismaani #16 Posted 16 September 2018 - 08:55 AM

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I wonder if the battles where both teams have 907 end up in a draw more often? 

NUKLEAR_SLUG #17 Posted 16 September 2018 - 09:02 AM

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View Postjugilismaani, on 16 September 2018 - 08:55 AM, said:

I wonder if the battles where both teams have 907 end up in a draw more often? 

 

Those games just don't count because the presence of two 907's on opposing teams introduces a divide by zero error.

DeadLecter #18 Posted 16 September 2018 - 09:06 AM

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View Postvcristi, on 16 September 2018 - 02:20 AM, said:

 

Have you thought that if someone is having 907, that guy/girl most be at least a decent player?

You just compare a decent player that you have as ally/enemy to some random tomato with a 140 or any other med. All reward tanks from campaigns are driven by decent/good players, deal with it.

 

P.S.: If WG would make reward tanks trash no one would play CW campaigns.

     Oh, maybe tomatoes would play to get a crap tank just to be able to stroll with his 'limited edition' vehicle in randoms, but that would invalidate all the competitiveness of CW campaigns.

 

Problem is 907 is a little too good to be true. Good player with OP tank is all it takes to decide the outcome of a battle. 907 has great hull armor great DPM low profile good mobility. It's like a combination of 430U armor and 140 gun

Hiisi #19 Posted 16 September 2018 - 09:19 AM

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Obj907 is a bit too good. Last buff for turret was unneccecery. It only made it more resistable against 100-105 mm ap/aprc ammo. So even more reasons to use HEAT ammo against it. Stupid. 

 

Of course usually its played by good players so in general it looks a bt more powerfull in randoms that it truely is. But its a bit too good currently. 

 

Game needs a big balance overhaul. But wg is only looking balance in 6-8 months... 

 

 



MeNoobTank #20 Posted 16 September 2018 - 09:57 AM

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I just learned that obj 907 has a weak roof. I shoot one from long distance on Fjords with my IS-7. It may be only luck, but I won that match.





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