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TinCanTanker #1 Posted 11 October 2018 - 08:57 PM

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Evening guys. Thinking about buying my first tier 9 heavy and at the moment have the choice of either the Obj. 257 or the T-10. Not sure which one to go for. Any thoughts on them? Are either of them worth it for a first tier 9 heavy? Or are there better options?

 

Dont know if it helps at all but when it come to heavy tanks, I've found I enjoy the play style of the IS, T29, BDR G1B, KV-85 and M6 so far.

 

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1ucky #3 Posted 11 October 2018 - 09:41 PM

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For 340mm HEAT pen, vote T-10!!!

Steve8066 #4 Posted 11 October 2018 - 09:48 PM

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im going for 257 because if i dont i cant be Steve the IS-7 driver :D

arthurwellsley #5 Posted 11 October 2018 - 09:49 PM

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Although I own the IS7 and IS4 I have only played the T10 and never the 257. But the T10 is a very good tier IX tank.

XxKuzkina_MatxX #6 Posted 11 October 2018 - 09:54 PM

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The T10 and the 257 are equally good IMO. If you like more mobility go for the T10 and if you prefer a bit more armor go for the 257.

 

The guns on both tanks are good and that's what actually matters so it's your personal preference.

 

N.B: One thing worth mentioning is that arty can pen the T10 much easier, engine deck is 16 mm! 


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Danger__UXB #7 Posted 11 October 2018 - 10:05 PM

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257 used to be a great tank due to the side armour?... but i feel that strength has gone due to players knowing where to shoot you now...all you are left with is a great turret which can work hull down? (But not against TD.s/Tier 10)

 

T10 is a great 'Heavium' tho i still struggle with its playstyle..The speed can get you into trouble if you dont know how exersise restraint.

 

 

..Both are great tanks as ive seen miracle games in both but the art is learning their strengths and steering away from their weakness..(Count me out on both :()

 

 

Believe me that at this level in theses tanks its never 'if' the tanks are any good?....its about.. 'are you any good'??



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Seeing as you're a new players and not doing too hot in the IS-3, I'd say 257.

 

I vastly prefer the T-10 personally, but it's not really a heavy, it's more like a med with a big gun. The armour isn't going to save you in any situation, and bounces off your hull can only be expected against tier 7's.

 

The 257 is a bit of a stupid tank. The side armour is troll as hell, frontally the armour is not that amazing, but still strong enough to laugh at tier 7's and a lot of tier 8's. The gun is a bit potato, but it works.

 

All in all 257 is a bit more 'safe' for a new player.



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257 hands down. The T-10 is far from a bad tank and a lot of people will understandably recommend it but it is not forgiving whereas the 257 is pretty much idiot-proof in my experience. 

 

Its armour is still ridiculous thanks to it being angled and Russian. Tier 7s pretty much cannot hurt you and tier 8s, particularly mediums, will have a lot of trouble. I've even had tier 10 meds bounce repeatedly off my arse in the 257 whilst tracked. 

 

Basically, if you're a highly skilled player the T10 would be the better choice as you should be able to employs its strengths and mitigate its weaknesses but if you're an average to poor player, the OBJ 257 is infinitely more forgiving. 



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If t 10 had good armour it would be ok but what I am told is you play it like a medium, the 267 (not sure if it has been secretly nerfed) used to have more bouncy armour.
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View Postmortalsatsuma, on 12 October 2018 - 08:36 AM, said:

257 hands down. The T-10 is far from a bad tank and a lot of people will understandably recommend it but it is not forgiving whereas the 257 is pretty much idiot-proof in my experience. 

 

Its armour is still ridiculous thanks to it being angled and Russian. Tier 7s pretty much cannot hurt you and tier 8s, particularly mediums, will have a lot of trouble. I've even had tier 10 meds bounce repeatedly off my arse in the 257 whilst tracked. 

 

Basically, if you're a highly skilled player the T10 would be the better choice as you should be able to employs its strengths and mitigate its weaknesses but if you're an average to poor player, the OBJ 257 is infinitely more forgiving. 

 

Ha ha, idiot proof until this one get in it:D

TinCanTanker #11 Posted 12 October 2018 - 09:00 AM

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View PostMimos_A, on 12 October 2018 - 04:41 AM, said:

Seeing as you're a new players and not doing too hot in the IS-3, I'd say 257.

It is true, I struggled in the IS-3 when I played it last. It was a while ago, before I took a fairly long break from the game and feel I would maybe do better in it now. Perhaps I should have another go in the IS-3 before deciding on the tier 9? The only thing that worries me is the match making at the moment. How does the IS-3 cope with 3-5-7?

 

Thanks for the reply's, leaning toward the 257 at the moment as it seems more forgiving. At the same time though I like the mobility that the T-10 offers but not sure I could make the most of it at my current skill level unfortunately.

 

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Hammerhead20 #12 Posted 12 October 2018 - 09:06 AM

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T-10 is really nice tier IX heavy tank.

 

I also have Obj.257 but with no crew members and equipment...


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ramram70 #13 Posted 12 October 2018 - 09:43 AM

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T-10. Better values in every aspect. Except maybe side armour (because angling).

 

I just couldn't make Obj 257 work so I sold it. Maybe I should've given him more time.



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View PostTinCanTanker, on 12 October 2018 - 09:00 AM, said:

It is true, I struggled in the IS-3 when I played it last. It was a while ago, before I took a fairly long break from the game and feel I would maybe do better in it now. Perhaps I should have another go in the IS-3 before deciding on the tier 9? The only thing that worries me is the match making at the moment. How does the IS-3 cope with 3-5-7?

 

Thanks for the reply's, leaning toward the 257 at the moment as it seems more forgiving. At the same time though I like the mobility that the T-10 offers but not sure I could make the most of it at my current skill level unfortunately.

 

Cheers.

 

It wasn't meant as a judgement, just checked out your tanks to see which one might fit you more :)

 

Staying with the IS-3 for a bit and then decide might be your best bet, yeah. If you feel more at home playing as a proper heavy, go with the 257, if you feel like you want something that is more like a sluggish med with a scary boomstick, go with the T-10. Just realise that the T-10 can't do that slugging it out in a heavy tank lane thing very well. Most tier 9's have no issue penning it frontally. If I recall correctly the nominal armour thickness of the hull is even worse than the IS-3.



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257 is even better than IS7. That thing is super bouncy. You can think of it as a T IX Defender

JocMeister #16 Posted 12 October 2018 - 04:44 PM

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257. Just drive out sidesways and laugh at everyone bouncing you.

 

Most stupid tank in the game.



TinCanTanker #17 Posted 12 October 2018 - 06:11 PM

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View PostMimos_A, on 12 October 2018 - 02:41 PM, said:

 

It wasn't meant as a judgement, just checked out your tanks to see which one might fit you more :)

 

Staying with the IS-3 for a bit and then decide might be your best bet, yeah. If you feel more at home playing as a proper heavy, go with the 257, if you feel like you want something that is more like a sluggish med with a scary boomstick, go with the T-10. Just realise that the T-10 can't do that slugging it out in a heavy tank lane thing very well. Most tier 9's have no issue penning it frontally. If I recall correctly the nominal armour thickness of the hull is even worse than the IS-3.

 

I didn't take it as a judgment ;), in fact your input is much appreciated. How does the IS-3 cope with 3-5-7?

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View PostTinCanTanker, on 12 October 2018 - 05:11 PM, said:

 

I didn't take it as a judgment ;), in fact your input is much appreciated. How does the IS-3 cope with 3-5-7?

 

I like playing the Is3 when bottom tier as i just go with the meds (You have decent speed to keep up)

 

When your meds stall due to meeting the same on a flank... use your speed to get upfront and your turret armour to go hull down and act as a 'Damage soaker' upfront (But be clever) ... and your meds will feed off your actions.

 

...gotta be hull down tho or it wont work especially if there are TD's in the back supporting them....just keep moving back and forth and angle as much as you can so they bounce.

 

 

Meds v meds most of the time wont load gold (Unless try-hard?) so armour kinda works?



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T10 is medium in disguise with a heavy tank gun which has medium tank gunhandling. T10 all the way. 257 is good as well, but not as mobile and gunhandling and reload is worse. 

 

For bob 257 is the better choice, for a experienced player t10 will be far more enjoyable. 



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View PostDanger__UXB, on 12 October 2018 - 06:15 PM, said:

 

I like playing the Is3 when bottom tier as i just go with the meds (You have decent speed to keep up)

 

When your meds stall due to meeting the same on a flank... use your speed to get upfront and your turret armour to go hull down and act as a 'Damage soaker' upfront (But be clever) ... and your meds will feed off your actions.

 

...gotta be hull down tho or it wont work especially if there are TD's in the back supporting them....just keep moving back and forth and angle as much as you can so they bounce.

 

 

Meds v meds most of the time wont load gold (Unless try-hard?) so armour kinda works?

Thanks for the reply. I remember when I played before I refused to go to the medium flank in My IS-3, even when bottom tier and suffered as a result. I have since learnt heavy and medium roles are not so cut and dry and assuming that a heavy tank should always go to the "heavy flank" is narrow minded at best. Would be interesting to see if I have actually improved at the game at all since I played the IS-3 last.

 

View PostDorsVenabiIi, on 12 October 2018 - 07:55 PM, said:

 

For bob 257 is the better choice, for a experienced player t10 will be far more enjoyable. 

What about a bob who is planning on being an experienced player? :) I've so far gotten the impression that the 257 is essentially idiot proof. If this is the case, how much can someone learn from playing it? Will it teach me bad habits?

 

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