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mikkiller #1 Posted 21 October 2018 - 02:39 AM

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Almost 6 years ago, when I installed world of tanks and saw the ELC here and there on the battlefield, I wanted it. I wanted it so bad and I grinded my way to it. The AMX ELC being the first tier V.

I know many of you don't care and are like "why, this is stupid and useless". There are reasons to why I am removing my dearest tank. It's been a long time since it was nerfed, and today, I thought to myself, I am not using it, it's just sitting there, screaming in pain to get a fair buff and work properly again..

 

This is both a farewell, and a discussion. If you don't feel like reading my "story" here are my issues with it.

Since its nerf I have not used it, almost at all. It can't compete with any other tanks anymore. Barely anyone use it anymore because it's gone so far down from its former "glory". If it's buffed to be somewhat good, at least the speed and the health back would be fine.

 

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[*] Farewell, my buddy :(


Edited by mikkiller, 21 October 2018 - 02:46 AM.


xx984 #2 Posted 21 October 2018 - 02:46 AM

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It was good that it was nerfed, was pretty OP before and it needed a change like it or not. 

mikkiller #3 Posted 21 October 2018 - 02:49 AM

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View Postxx984, on 21 October 2018 - 02:46 AM, said:

It was good that it was nerfed, was pretty OP before and it needed a change like it or not. 

It's nerfed so hard that there's no good with it. As said, the speed and health would be fine for me. I know the penetration was op for its tier and the reload time was pretty good.



Homer_J #4 Posted 21 October 2018 - 03:47 AM

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They wanted to get rid of the gun but that would have made it unhistorical.

 

What they should have done is swapped it for something else and made it a higher tier premium with it's old stats, they could have even made it a tier VIII with the right tweaks but the decision to keep the 90mm was taken too late to come up with an alternative.



Makotti #5 Posted 21 October 2018 - 07:06 AM

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The nerfs hit it too hard. Not just the gun but mobility was crippled quite too much. Been waiting for some time now if WG would give some well deserved buffs to it but seems it won't happen so decided that when next crew retraining special comes AMX ELC's crew moves to BC12t, atleast it was some fun to play.
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View Postxx984, on 21 October 2018 - 03:46 AM, said:

It was good that it was nerfed, was pretty OP before and it needed a change like it or not. 

 

OP ? Don't think so. Fun ? Heck yes.

 

It was a high risk high reward vehicle, You could just zigzag on battlefield, go in and blast enemy tank at behind, then zoom out and find next target. You were pretty much one/two shot to everything so having a little bit of bad luck caused you to boom quite easily.

 

Now it's like driving a lawnmover around.



Jigabachi #6 Posted 21 October 2018 - 09:28 AM

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It was too good and definitely deserved a nerf, but it was too much. They killed one of the most unique tanks in the game.
 

View PostMakotti, on 21 October 2018 - 07:06 AM, said:

 

 

 

 

Now it's like driving a lawnmover around.

 

you've nailed it sir!

 

PS: I sold my ELC shortly after the nerf, couldn't stand it.
now the exceptionally good crew is on AMX 13 105


 

Edited by G_Bg_82, 21 October 2018 - 11:14 AM.


Ziurawka #7 Posted 21 October 2018 - 09:57 AM

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View PostJigabachi, on 21 October 2018 - 09:28 AM, said:

It was too good and definitely deserved a nerf, but it was too much. They killed one of the most unique tanks in the game.

 

It wasn't too good, in certain circumstances it had an advantage over other tier Vs, but Chaffee was arguably better. 

With the All Saints day closing in let us take a moment to reflect on those LTs lost during the rework ;) Amen

 

... Some people will still say they were buffed.


Edited by Ziurawka, 21 October 2018 - 09:58 AM.


Hamsterkicker #8 Posted 21 October 2018 - 10:02 AM

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It may be that these upcoming French Wheeled Vehicles branch of from this one, so I played it a bit lately to gather some XP on it.. If you forget for a moment how good it was previously it is still quite capable.

lnfernaI #9 Posted 21 October 2018 - 10:44 AM

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Can't people like OP just leave the past in the past?

King_Flippy_Nips #10 Posted 21 October 2018 - 11:29 AM

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Wasn't a huge fan of the AMX ELC. But I get why so many loved it. I never found it so hard to deal with that it need such a drastic nerf. It was a really unique tank. 

mystikro #11 Posted 21 October 2018 - 01:40 PM

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And here I am actually still enjoying my ELC with the second gun that lets you use the turret properly. Don't use the top gun. That is an easy fix.


Edited by mystikro, 21 October 2018 - 01:45 PM.


Balc0ra #12 Posted 21 October 2018 - 01:53 PM

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When it came 6 years ago it faced tier X, and it could never be top tier. It was one of only two lights that had +4 MM or more when the rest got +3 for a long time. It needed the pen, the speed and the HP it had. Now as top tier facing tier 4's? No. 

 

View Postmikkiller, on 21 October 2018 - 02:39 AM, said:

If it's buffed to be somewhat good, at least the speed and the health back would be fine.

 

It's a small target that has 2x more camo than any of my tier 5 lights almost. And only 30 less HP then most of them. The Leo has 380, most have 350. This has 320. It doesn't need 400 hp+ like a tier 5 med anymore. So that nerf I got. The old speed would be too good with the current MM. But at the same time it was cut down a bit too much IMO. A bit more then it has now would not hurt tbh. The 90mm gun is fine IMO. It did not need the pen it had when it faced tier X. And it only lost like 80 dpm. So in a TD role it still works. Its gun is more reliable then the sub 100 pen guns the other tier 5 lights have. As they can even fail to overmatch weaker targets. 

 

I still like mine. I still play it and I find it fun. It could use a tiny bit more mobility, but that's it. 



NoobySkooby #13 Posted 21 October 2018 - 02:21 PM

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Think I might get mine back but not sure why I should. OP, again this term, people say x y z is OP then it is nerfed, ruining it for everyone, so annoying, not one tank in this game is OP.

snowlywhite #14 Posted 21 October 2018 - 02:48 PM

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didn't play the old one. 3rd mark the new one. And it's the only tank I was willing to invest into premium consumables to 3 mark it so far.

 

for the tier it's in, with the current MM, with the ability to 1 shot tier 4s with HE - dunno about the OP, but I find the tank great. Half the players you're currently facing won't spot you if you're shooting from 150m from them. And I don't have some awesome crew in it(2 skills).

 

heck, I like it so much I was willing to even pay to buy skin/emblems on it; and I never payed RL money for pixel skins before ever.

 

I really enjoy this tank. And I really love it's a totally different gameplay than most tanks. I was even willing to grind 416 hoping it'll offer more or less the same gamplay(unfortunately, it doesn't - 320 alpha at tier 8 <<<< 250 alpha at tier 5).



rohangaming #15 Posted 21 October 2018 - 02:55 PM

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Agree, like with EVEN, people fail to take into account its primary strength in stealth and size. They want to play light tanks as Bulldogs and when they get something different, they complain. These tanks are still good and viable, though I would agree that slight buff there or there is needed.

Grommet #16 Posted 21 October 2018 - 03:57 PM

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If you really want to sample the French 'lawnmower' experience may I suggest a trip out in an ELC Even.  Abysmal mobility.

mikkiller #17 Posted 21 October 2018 - 04:18 PM

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View PostGrommet, on 21 October 2018 - 03:57 PM, said:

If you really want to sample the French 'lawnmower' experience may I suggest a trip out in an ELC Even.  Abysmal mobility.

 

I have not tried it and it just seems like an annoying thing lol

 

I do see why it was "considered" too good, because let's be honest, it could penetrate medium and possibly heavy IXs frontally if done right.. But as I said, it's just the speed and the health, it's not something you can feel comfortable in anymore, if you ask me.

 

(Stats taken from tanks.gg)

DPM: 1028.57 = Fine as it is

Damage: 240 = Fine as it is

Reload time: 14 seconds = Could load a bit faster it's almost as if you're reloading a valuable shot like the KV2.

Everything else about the weaponry is quite fine, on to mobility and the speed.

60 Top speed = It looks good on paper, but the 65 speed it had really made a difference.

20 Reverse speed = That's alright.

I don't remember if the engine was nerfed, could feel like it but let's move on to the health and the armor on it doesn't really matter since it's kind of the meaning of a light tank.

320 Health... From it's former great 400 health.. The light tank with the least health of all LTs in tier V, should be given at least 30 health back.

Just my thoughts, let me hear what you think



Totieso #18 Posted 21 October 2018 - 04:27 PM

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It was a Formula 1 and now it's a go-kart.

I played it once after the nerf and sold it inmediatly. Bye bye 3moe tank

mikkiller #19 Posted 21 October 2018 - 05:27 PM

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View PostTotieso, on 21 October 2018 - 04:27 PM, said:

It was a Formula 1 and now it's a go-kart.

I played it once after the nerf and sold it inmediatly. Bye bye 3moe tank

 

yeah.. rip

Jamadeus #20 Posted 21 October 2018 - 06:00 PM

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Just stick a (P) suffix on it and sell it as a premium with the original stats. Win WG, Win AMX lovers.







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