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Beltalowda #1 Posted 21 October 2018 - 11:47 AM

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I know there is a rental thingy going on and Scorpion G is the most or one of the most played tanks right now. The thing what I am interested in is, that high alpha guns on such a fast platform were problematic in the past, just remember the old Grille 15.

 

When you are driving LT at this tier you are often 2 shot kill for a Scorpion if it high rolls, if you are in a medium then it's three shots and you are dead. Many people hated old arty for it's ability to one shot tanks and this was the main reason why so many players hated this class. 

 

So why is WG adding the same thing over and over again ? It's not only a Scorpion, there has been an increase in derp and large caliber guns that can easily one shot a tank. To me going from 100 to 0 in my baby Bat when I get hit from Type 5 or tier X scout getting obliterated in one hit from a Shitbarn is the same thing like receiving a one shot from the old arty. 

 

  1. Is this the same thing ?
  2. What are your thoughts about it ?
  3. And at what point is too many Scorps running around enough for WG to remove them "temporarily" from the store like they did with E-25, because there was just too many of them ?

Edited by Beltalowda, 21 October 2018 - 11:53 AM.


VeryRisky #2 Posted 21 October 2018 - 11:50 AM

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You've missed the K and thus it sounded like you were being rude about my lovely M56 :(

Beltalowda #3 Posted 21 October 2018 - 11:52 AM

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View PostVeryRisky, on 21 October 2018 - 10:50 AM, said:

You've missed the K and thus it sounded like you were being rude about my lovely M56 :(

 

I would never do that to you, we go way back. Don't you remember ?

bnmm113 #4 Posted 21 October 2018 - 11:57 AM

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well, what does sKorpion have except mobility and alpha?

id rather complain about broken camo tanks that can keep shooting you without getting spotted. skorpion is a high risk high reward tank. it reqires skil, which most players dont have (probably including me) so usually skorps are free damage.



Beltalowda #5 Posted 21 October 2018 - 12:03 PM

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View Postbnmm113, on 21 October 2018 - 10:57 AM, said:

well, what does sKorpion have except mobility and alpha?

This is exactly what I wrote to be the problem, combo of a high alpha guns and mobility. 



Gkirmathal #6 Posted 21 October 2018 - 12:04 PM

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View PostBeltalowda, on 21 October 2018 - 10:47 AM, said:

 

So why is WG adding the same thing over and over again ?

 

Simple, because the majority of players (also seen here on the forums) have no real interest in a balanced game that serves them somewhat of a balanced gameplay. This is the target audience of WG for monetization and that focus led to all the imbalance issues afflicting this game.


 



Beltalowda #7 Posted 21 October 2018 - 12:09 PM

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View PostGkirmathal, on 21 October 2018 - 11:04 AM, said:

 

Simple, because the majority of players (also seen here on the forums) have no real interest in a balanced game that serves them somewhat of a balanced gameplay. This is the target audience of WG for monetization and that focus led to all the imbalance issues afflicting this game.

 

Yeah, I think you are right. Balanced game is the last thing what the average bob is asking for. That's why we had 268 4, WG calling it balanced TD and so many people trying to boost their overall stats in it.

Search_Warrant #8 Posted 21 October 2018 - 12:28 PM

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Best tier 8 medium with a TD gun + disgustingly good gun bloom and 60 top speed. what can possibly go wrong.

Dorander #9 Posted 21 October 2018 - 12:30 PM

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No, the SkorpG's alpha is nowhere near that of a derpgun, but yeah it is powerful. That's the most it has going for it though, a good gun. It's also a second-line TD which means it's not OP if you're not good with such tanks, it can't drive forwards and win chokepoints. It's also a direct fire gun so not like artillery at all.



lime_vortep #10 Posted 21 October 2018 - 01:13 PM

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I actully love this. Since every one play on rental the Skopion G, most players think mine is a rental too and don't take me seriously. And I have near 800 battles with mine so I do know how to play it. I have fun. Also I have fun farming all those Skopions who do not know where they are all the time! :D

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NoobySkooby #11 Posted 21 October 2018 - 02:27 PM

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Oh lordy, two laughable OP tanks in one week, Skorpion G, well why are you surprised the damn thing is like on sale every damn month, so yes everyone wants a bit of that big gun alpha.

 

Then you get the Feared and loathed Chrysler K, another supposedly OP tank, well I love the tank for sure but I tell you now it is NOT OP, and don't give me crap about tier 6 and all that because all you ever see is t 8 9 and 10. (If anything it needs an armour buff:D) next will be the Defender, and that will have been power crept too, lol.



Balc0ra #12 Posted 21 October 2018 - 02:32 PM

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I know... my CDA 105 and ELC have ran more HE now then ever before. And 90% of them sit in the open with it and don't know how to play it. So it's great. 

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View PostBeltalowda, on 21 October 2018 - 12:09 PM, said:

 

Yeah, I think you are right. Balanced game is the last thing what the average bob is asking for. That's why we had 268 4, WG calling it balanced TD and so many people trying to boost their overall stats in it.

And quite a few are also fine with having p2w elements in the game as well. 

 

With arguments like.

"If I pay, the tank I buy should be better or at least as powerful as the best tank of that tier"

 



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View PostLordMuffin, on 21 October 2018 - 02:43 PM, said:

And quite a few are also fine with having p2w elements in the game as well. 

 

With arguments like.

"If I pay, the tank I buy should be better or at least as powerful as the best tank of that tier"

 

Please post where forum members asked for the introduction of 268 v4

 

As for your lame p2w comment which was disproven in Falcons laughable tantrum thread numerous times. Why would anyone in there right mind purchase a prem tank if it was inferior? Seen many cdc or panther 8.8's recently?

 

No one is interested in play for free scrubs whining about tanks they cant afford. The skorps in game on rental in the main are being played by the aforementioned free to play scrubs and most of them are shite players... give a noob a potentially OP tank and we can all see the results. Kind of discredits the p2w arguement dead on the spot really.



Nishi_Kinuyo #15 Posted 21 October 2018 - 03:12 PM

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Not an issue if you play tier 5. :P

Or you can be tier 9-10 and know that you'll be the bigger fish in the pond.



bnmm113 #16 Posted 21 October 2018 - 03:12 PM

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View PostRati_Festa, on 21 October 2018 - 02:54 PM, said:

Please post where forum members asked for the introduction of 268 v4

 

As for your lame p2w comment which was disproven in Falcons laughable tantrum thread numerous times. Why would anyone in there right mind purchase a prem tank if it was inferior? Seen many cdc or panther 8.8's recently?

 

No one is interested in play for free scrubs whining about tanks they cant afford. The skorps in game on rental in the main are being played by the aforementioned free to play scrubs and most of them are shite players... give a noob a potentially OP tank and we can all see the results. Kind of discredits the p2w arguement dead on the spot really.

 

thats exacly my oppinion… 

even the most OP tank can only be as good as the player is (with exception of derps). every tank has its issues and its good sides, skorp is Op if you know game mecanics and use bushes othervise you are dead in seconds after being spotted due to arty focus and free no-armour damage.



Beltalowda #17 Posted 21 October 2018 - 05:10 PM

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There is  a lot of them out there, do you guys think we are approaching the same numbers as with E-25 and WG will remove it from the store eventually ?

 

By the way, I've seen some time ago pictures of a new Soviet premium tier 8 TD, which is a basically Soviet version of Scorpion G. So maybe if they remove it from the store, we'll have a Soviet replacement in the shop for those who missed on buying it :)



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View PostBeltalowda, on 21 October 2018 - 05:10 PM, said:

There is  a lot of them out there, do you guys think we are approaching the same numbers as with E-25 and WG will remove it from the store eventually ?

 

hopefully not ... love to see these things ingame ... paper tank with garbage camo ratings ... nothing is easier than farming noobs in these deathtraps



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View PostBeltalowda, on 21 October 2018 - 10:47 AM, said:

I know there is a rental thingy going on and Scorpion G is the most or one of the most played tanks right now. The thing what I am interested in is, that high alpha guns on such a fast platform were problematic in the past, just remember the old Grille 15.

 

When you are driving LT at this tier you are often 2 shot kill for a Scorpion if it high rolls, if you are in a medium then it's three shots and you are dead. Many people hated old arty for it's ability to one shot tanks and this was the main reason why so many players hated this class. 

 

 

 

 



Kommandant_Mia #20 Posted 21 October 2018 - 06:11 PM

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It's op, but for some reason it doesn't bother me so much. Maybe because I rack up a ton of damage shooting these things with HE.





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