Jump to content


T25 Pilot Number 1 - MM

T25 T25 Pilot T25 Pilot Number 1 MM Tier 10 remove

  • Please log in to reply
33 replies to this topic

Saif #1 Posted 18 November 2018 - 11:56 AM

    Sergeant

  • Player
  • 22053 battles
  • 286
  • Member since:
    02-14-2011

Remove T25 Pilot Number 1 from Tier 10 MM

1. its a medium premium tank

2. it has  only 192 penetraion

 


Edited by Saif, 18 November 2018 - 11:59 AM.


MarcoStrapone #2 Posted 18 November 2018 - 11:57 AM

    Warrant Officer

  • Player
  • 38683 battles
  • 752
  • [-BOMB] -BOMB
  • Member since:
    08-11-2013
one of the best tanks. and for free.

XxKuzkina_MatxX #3 Posted 18 November 2018 - 12:01 PM

    Captain

  • Player
  • 52824 battles
  • 2,322
  • Member since:
    04-02-2016
Even with a +1 MM, this thing will suck! :)

Strappster #4 Posted 18 November 2018 - 12:10 PM

    Field Marshal

  • Player
  • 25957 battles
  • 10,150
  • [WJDE] WJDE
  • Member since:
    10-20-2015
Only the same penetration as half the regular tier 8 mediums and many premiums?! Something must be done! :ohmy:

SuedKAT #5 Posted 18 November 2018 - 12:40 PM

    Lieutenant General

  • Player
  • 12154 battles
  • 6,920
  • [T-D-U] T-D-U
  • Member since:
    08-21-2014
The tier 8 tech tree US MT, the M26 Pershing have 190 pen... So... Yeah...

Avanta8 #6 Posted 18 November 2018 - 12:45 PM

    Private

  • Player
  • 5691 battles
  • 41
  • Member since:
    02-21-2018
And one of the best tier 8 prem meds, the t-44-100 only has 190 pen.

PervyPastryPuffer #7 Posted 18 November 2018 - 01:27 PM

    Major

  • Player
  • 31914 battles
  • 2,660
  • [VRTC] VRTC
  • Member since:
    09-13-2013

View PostSaif, on 18 November 2018 - 11:56 AM, said:

Remove T25 Pilot Number 1 from Tier 10 MM

1. its a medium premium tank

2. it has  only 192 penetraion

3. I don't know how to play it

 

[img]

 

FTFY

 

It's not hard...and you only ever meet 3 tier 10's. Common sense dictates you should avoid encountering those tanks and focuse on tanks from your own tier, or those with poor armor.

tankqull #8 Posted 18 November 2018 - 01:54 PM

    Lieutenant

  • Player
  • 21230 battles
  • 1,575
  • [WBD] WBD
  • Member since:
    08-31-2011

View PostAvanta8, on 18 November 2018 - 11:45 AM, said:

And one of the best tier 8 prem meds, the t-44-100 only has 190 pen.

 

but like the tvp it lacks mobility for not having any worthwhile armor anywhere.

Edited by tankqull, 18 November 2018 - 01:54 PM.


PervyPastryPuffer #9 Posted 18 November 2018 - 03:15 PM

    Major

  • Player
  • 31914 battles
  • 2,660
  • [VRTC] VRTC
  • Member since:
    09-13-2013

View Posttankqull, on 18 November 2018 - 01:54 PM, said:

but like the tvp it lacks mobility for not having any worthwhile armor anywhere.

 

It certainly doesn't lack mobility. Traverse speed maybe but not speed in general. Have you seen its ground resistances? Half that of the Pershing and Patton KR, and it can go a whole 7km/h faster. 3km/h faster than the T-44-100 (so basically matched in top speed).

Search_Warrant #10 Posted 18 November 2018 - 03:24 PM

    Lieutenant General

  • Player
  • 27780 battles
  • 6,435
  • [LEWD] LEWD
  • Member since:
    02-08-2011

View PostAvanta8, on 18 November 2018 - 11:45 AM, said:

And one of the best tier 8 prem meds, the t-44-100 only has 190 pen.

 

Problem is the platform more than the gun. T-44-100 is a rocket low profile troll bouncing better armored medium with stupid gun stats with a 100cal gun.

tankqull #11 Posted 18 November 2018 - 03:25 PM

    Lieutenant

  • Player
  • 21230 battles
  • 1,575
  • [WBD] WBD
  • Member since:
    08-31-2011

View PostPervyPastryPuffer, on 18 November 2018 - 02:15 PM, said:

 

It certainly doesn't lack mobility. Traverse speed maybe but not speed in general. Have you seen its ground resistances? Half that of the Pershing and Patton KR, and it can go a whole 7km/h faster. 3km/h faster than the T-44-100 (so basically matched in top speed).

 

the speedometer of my fiat tipolino states i´m capable of 210 km/h none the less every golf3 will out pace me with a speedometer max speed of 180...

 

https://tanks.gg/com...m46-kr~t-44-100

 

as you can see worst power to weight ratio of all your mentioned tanks while having the worst armor protection and no particular advantage in its gunnery stats. so it lacks mobility compared to the others especially if you take into account its lack of armor and comparable gun. oh and while we're at it the worst camo-ratio aswell.



the_nebuchadnezzar #12 Posted 18 November 2018 - 03:44 PM

    Second Lieutenant

  • Player
  • 49705 battles
  • 1,319
  • [-SJA-] -SJA-
  • Member since:
    08-19-2013

T25Pilot is a great tank. To make it work you have to trade it for any other premium (except the CDC). Simple as that...

 



PervyPastryPuffer #13 Posted 18 November 2018 - 08:44 PM

    Major

  • Player
  • 31914 battles
  • 2,660
  • [VRTC] VRTC
  • Member since:
    09-13-2013

View Posttankqull, on 18 November 2018 - 03:25 PM, said:

the speedometer of my fiat tipolino states i´m capable of 210 km/h none the less every golf3 will out pace me with a speedometer max speed of 180...

 

https://tanks.gg/com...m46-kr~t-44-100

 

as you can see worst power to weight ratio of all your mentioned tanks while having the worst armor protection and no particular advantage in its gunnery stats. so it lacks mobility compared to the others especially if you take into account its lack of armor and comparable gun. oh and while we're at it the worst camo-ratio aswell.

 

My Clio's speedo goes to 250 but it could never reach over 160...I don't understand this comparison. Tanks can reach their top speeds easily when going downhill, and on flat ground they'll keep it.

 

The gunhandling is basically on par with the T-44-100's, which is amazing btw. It is accurate.

 

I was honestly tempted to trade it with the Patton KR but the Patton's ground resistances made me reconsider. Its mobility isn't any better despite having a much better engine.



Balc0ra #14 Posted 18 November 2018 - 08:54 PM

    Field Marshal

  • Player
  • 67913 battles
  • 17,576
  • [WALL] WALL
  • Member since:
    07-10-2012

View PostSaif, on 18 November 2018 - 11:56 AM, said:

1. its a medium premium tank

2. it has  only 192 penetraion

 

That's 2 more pen then the tech tree Pershing. And the same pen as the KR. T26E4 had 192 until it got buffed recently. T69 and T95E2 both have 181mm pen with +2 MM. So count your blessings as far as US 90mm guns on tier 8 goes. Gun is the least of that tanks issues tbh. 

 

Tho tbh, I doubt it would make it better with +1 or 0+ all day long. As 192 pen is not gonna work vs the Patriots or Defenders that will find you at some point. 

 


Edited by Balc0ra, 18 November 2018 - 08:54 PM.


PervyPastryPuffer #15 Posted 18 November 2018 - 09:07 PM

    Major

  • Player
  • 31914 battles
  • 2,660
  • [VRTC] VRTC
  • Member since:
    09-13-2013

View PostBalc0ra, on 18 November 2018 - 08:54 PM, said:

192 pen is not gonna work vs the Patriots or Defenders that will find you at some point.

 

Track, Retrack, Flank, Circlestrafe, Kill.

 

Simple in theory but requires some luck in practice. I wouldn't say that without having done so myself... Point of low pen is higher RoF, so keep the enemy tracked and punish them.



Balc0ra #16 Posted 18 November 2018 - 09:09 PM

    Field Marshal

  • Player
  • 67913 battles
  • 17,576
  • [WALL] WALL
  • Member since:
    07-10-2012

View PostPervyPastryPuffer, on 18 November 2018 - 09:07 PM, said:

 

Track, Retrack, Flank, Circlestrafe, Kill.

 

Simple in theory but requires some luck in practice. I wouldn't say that without having done so myself... Point of low pen is higher RoF, so keep the enemy tracked and punish them.

 

Simple in theory indeed. So is forcing them out in the open etc to use range. But he is not always gonna be alone for you to flank him, and you are not always gonna have help. I've faced Defenders in my tier 8 meds in the last place I expected to see him, and got away with tracking. But not before I have done a bad trade or two. So it's not like I won even if I got away. 

Edited by Balc0ra, 18 November 2018 - 09:10 PM.


Bennie182 #17 Posted 18 November 2018 - 09:15 PM

    Lieutenant

  • Player
  • 55034 battles
  • 1,797
  • [WGL-A] WGL-A
  • Member since:
    03-13-2012

it's not bad, it's not great. got it for free, so I don't complain much, but it's comparable to other US meds. At least a lot better then T95E6.

I play it only as a support. Turret can get some lucky bounces on lower tiers.



PervyPastryPuffer #18 Posted 18 November 2018 - 09:25 PM

    Major

  • Player
  • 31914 battles
  • 2,660
  • [VRTC] VRTC
  • Member since:
    09-13-2013

View PostBalc0ra, on 18 November 2018 - 09:09 PM, said:

Simple in theory indeed. So is forcing them out in the open etc to use range. But he is not always gonna be alone for you to flank him, and you are not always gonna have help. I've faced Defenders in my tier 8 meds in the last place I expected to see him, and got away with tracking. But not before I have done a bad trade or two. So it's not like I won even if I got away. 

 

Yep, and that's where each tank's strenghts and weaknesses come into play. Knowing them all lets you plan out your encounters and decide whether it's worth taking the risk. It's not the same for every tank, that's what makes it tricky.

 

If there's no good opportunity in view, wait for it to develop. Again, simple in theory but RNG in practice. ;)



Saif #19 Posted 18 November 2018 - 09:26 PM

    Sergeant

  • Player
  • 22053 battles
  • 286
  • Member since:
    02-14-2011

View PostBennie182, on 18 November 2018 - 08:15 PM, said:

it's not bad, it's not great. got it for free, so I don't complain much, but it's comparable to other US meds. At least a lot better then T95E6.

I play it only as a support. Turret can get some lucky bounces on lower tiers.

 

Im not saying if it good or bad, it just simple need to be removed from tier 10, its not a scout and got low pen.

Search_Warrant #20 Posted 18 November 2018 - 09:46 PM

    Lieutenant General

  • Player
  • 27780 battles
  • 6,435
  • [LEWD] LEWD
  • Member since:
    02-08-2011
ALL pattons at tier 8 need buffing badly. cant remember the last time i saw one. why play a patton when you cna play progetto with more pen, good handling and a reloader?




2 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 2 guests, 0 anonymous users