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NekoPuffer_PPP #1 Posted 20 November 2018 - 02:17 AM

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I played one battle in the 432 (thanks for the rental code) but that's beside the point - I went to compare its stats to the LTTB out of curiosity and...oh boy. :ohmy:

 

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So now I'm wondering; what justifies nearly all of its stats to be simply better than the LTTB's? Is there something I don't know about yet?

 

Don't say bias. :trollface:


Edited by PervyPastryPuffer, 20 November 2018 - 02:23 AM.


Procjon #2 Posted 20 November 2018 - 02:40 AM

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I had an encounter with 432 in my M41 Walker Bulldog. I couldn't pen any **** of that 432, i know it was hull down most of the time but compared to M41 armor :facepalm:

 

I guess M41 joins a department of "obsolete tanks that you play for your own masochism".

 

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View PostPervyPastryPuffer, on 20 November 2018 - 01:17 AM, said:

I played one battle in the 432 (thanks for the rental code) but that's beside the point - I went to compare its stats to the LTTB out of curiosity and...oh boy. :ohmy:

 

Spoiler (tall image)

 

So now I'm wondering; what justifies nearly all of its stats to be simply better than the LTTB's? Is there something I don't know about yet?

 

Don't say bias. :trollface:

 

Its called WG Greed and scumbag powercreep. i was playing some matches today in 432. (i havent bought the tank) and its just flat out the best if not 2nd best (blackdog) LT at tier 8. its just completely better than every single tier 8 LT. Power to weight is BS for that ammount of armor on a low profile troll angled LT. compare it to T92 and see yourself how stupidly good 432 is in comparison. 380 viewrange dont mean crap when you can slap optics and stack food/vents skills to make it STILL super high. the guns 1000% better and a stupid HE shell.

 

Its not OP, but its defo too good for a tier 8 LT in comparison to the absolute junk that it compares to, like again, T92.

 

Edit: but seriously ***** you WG for making my T92 go 60 top speed while this thing goes 70+. ***** you to hell.


Edited by Search_Warrant, 20 November 2018 - 04:04 AM.


Shacou #4 Posted 20 November 2018 - 04:05 AM

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It's a really strong Lt, but it's not that the LT-432 needs to be nerfed, tech three lights need to get buffed.

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View PostShacou, on 20 November 2018 - 03:05 AM, said:

It's a really strong Lt, but it's not that the LT-432 needs to be nerfed, tech three lights need to get buffed.

 

Problem is, WG are too incompetant to do this. people say the same about Defender. "X dont need nerfing, others need buffing" is never going to happen with WG.

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View PostSearch_Warrant, on 20 November 2018 - 05:08 AM, said:

 

Problem is, WG are too incompetant to do this. people say the same about Defender. "X dont need nerfing, others need buffing" is never going to happen with WG.

 

Well, yes. Also quite annoys me that LT-432 is so "conveniently" designed to bounce low caliber APCR shots from other Lts.

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View PostShacou, on 20 November 2018 - 03:21 AM, said:

 

Well, yes. Also quite annoys me that LT-432 is so "conveniently" designed to bounce low caliber APCR shots from other Lts.

 

Of course, its russian, puny guns must not hurt stronk sovjet mighty tenks, even the russian LIGHT versions conrad.

 

Its side is 122 overmatch still but its stupid how it can even sidescrape 100 cals in a light tank while my t92 gets slapped around with 60kmh top speeds and a credit crippling 150 alpha pop gun with worse DPM. seriously hope the guy balancing russian tanks gets fired for this stupidity.



Hiisi #8 Posted 20 November 2018 - 05:56 AM

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It`s just way too good. Maybe not OP as defender, because you need to know how to play with it, but way better than any of tier 8 lights. WG went overboard whit its gun depression and armor. 

 

Just put -5 to depression and nerf efficient armor by 20 all around. Do you know that it can autobounce grille 15 currently from the frontal hull... how many tier 8 mediums can do that...

 

 



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I've been thinking lately about "when will i consider buying my next tier 8 premium tank?"

 

The answer I came up with was like "well, first they would have to powercreep the s*** out of Skorpion G, Progetto 46 and Lorraine 40t". I thought it will be at least 2-3 years away but now that they released 432 it might happen sooner than that i figure.



TankkiPoju #10 Posted 20 November 2018 - 07:20 AM

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Funnily also premium ammo costs each 3200 credits in LT-432 for 180 damage.

 

Premium ammo in T92 costs 5600 credits for 150 damage.

 

Because reasons.



Toni112007 #11 Posted 20 November 2018 - 07:36 AM

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How does that tank have 7 degrees of gun depression with that tiny turret? Can anyone answer? 

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TankkiPoju #12 Posted 20 November 2018 - 08:25 AM

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View PostToni112007, on 20 November 2018 - 07:36 AM, said:

How does that tank have 7 degrees of gun depression with that tiny turret? Can anyone answer? 

 

It's magic, comrade!

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LTTB still handles much better due to way better ground resistance values though.

 

I honestly think they are pretty on par to be honest.

 

View PostTankkiPoju, on 20 November 2018 - 06:20 AM, said:

Funnily also premium ammo costs each 3200 credits in LT-432 for 180 damage.

 

Premium ammo in T92 costs 5600 credits for 150 damage.

 

Because reasons.


That is because the T92 used to be Tier 7 in the early tests and that is a normal price for tier 7 prem-ammo. Same reason why when it was first released it had a terrible 150 health engine which luckily got increased as you got you engine killed with every incoming shot.

 

WG just "forgot" to decrease the price of the premium ammo.

 

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Edited by Cobra6, 20 November 2018 - 08:28 AM.


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Rather discussing example of powercreep if you ask me. Not that this tank is meta - shifting or anything, it isn't cause it's a tier 8 light tank, but it's still head above other same tier LTs and some meds as well.



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View PostCobra6, on 20 November 2018 - 08:26 AM, said:

That is because the T92 used to be Tier 7 in the early tests and that is a normal price for tier 7 prem-ammo. Same reason why when it was first released it had a terrible 150 health engine which luckily got increased as you got you engine killed with every incoming shot.

 

Yeah I know. It's just utterly retarded something like Type 5 premium HE costs 6400 credits... for potential 1400 damage.

 

Or FV4005's pay to win HESH shells only cost 8k a pop.



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View PostTankkiPoju, on 20 November 2018 - 07:20 AM, said:

Funnily also premium ammo costs each 3200 credits in LT-432 for 180 damage.

 

Premium ammo in T92 costs 5600 credits for 150 damage.

 

Because reasons.

 

Baffles me really...:facepalm:

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View PostToni112007, on 20 November 2018 - 08:36 AM, said:

How does that tank have 7 degrees of gun depression with that tiny turret? Can anyone answer? 

 

4 dimentional turret teknology komrade!

Mannanan #18 Posted 20 November 2018 - 09:07 AM

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And you forgot to mention it doesn't flip.

Simeon85 #19 Posted 20 November 2018 - 09:40 AM

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Lttb is much smaller and more agile.  

 

Also it's a tier 8 light, it's very far from being OP.  Is it better than the other tier 8 lights? Marginally maybe, it's certainly more comfortable to play in a 3-5-7 than many tier 8 meds, but Progetto is still stronger IMO because of firepower, Skorpion is still stronger and of course it's nowhere near something like a Defender or VK 1001 P which are your properly OP tier 8s.

 

End of the day it's a tier 8 tank with 176 pen, 180 alpha and less DPM than a Caernarvon. 



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View PostSimeon85, on 20 November 2018 - 09:40 AM, said:

Lttb is much smaller and more agile. 

 

Also it's a tier 8 light, it's very far from being OP.  Is it better than the other tier 8 lights? Marginally maybe, it's certainly more comfortable to play in a 3-5-7 than many tier 8 meds, but Progetto is still stronger IMO because of firepower, Skorpion is still stronger and of course it's nowhere near something like a Defender or VK 1001 P which are your properly OP tier 8s.

 

End of the day it's a tier 8 tank with 176 pen, 180 alpha and less DPM than a Caernarvon.

 

The agility makes LTTB more prone to flipping. It's also taller, and has no gun depression, so in most of the situations it's easier to hit. But it doesn't matter, cause the question isn't - 'is the 432 OP?', the question is 'why the heck it's better than all the LTs available in tech trees?'





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