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phoenix573 #1 Posted 20 November 2018 - 10:27 PM

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There are tanks such as T-34/100 and Archer, completely unbalanced in my opinion.. They are very weak compared to literally all the other tanks in its' tier, even smaller tiers can beat them. I can barely do anything when the team isn't good either. With the current matchmaker you end up in getting +2 tier enemies as well and it will just be hell, especially when a top tier will suicide just to get you… Are these tanks and others in similar situation supposed to be a hell to play or are we supposed to "earn the next tank through hell"?



Bordhaw #2 Posted 20 November 2018 - 10:29 PM

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Play other tanks then. 

DarkPacifist #3 Posted 20 November 2018 - 11:38 PM

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I haven't played archer yet, but I feel that t34/100 is pretty balanced, the gun depression is garbage but the gun itself is good, the armour is not that weak, you can pull out some bounces and make it work agains low and equal tier opponent (and some low pen tier 8)

LCpl_Jones #4 Posted 20 November 2018 - 11:59 PM

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balancing is a work in progress, soon rasha tanks will be bestest at all tiers :great:

 

even better will be the ones you can buy...



RockyRoller #5 Posted 21 November 2018 - 01:25 AM

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well they aren't really meant to be balanced are they, but they do generally have weaknesses to exploit.

 

think of a lemon tank as playing on extra hard mode?

 

the real imbalance are the +2 tiers, just because even a weak area on a T10 can't be hurt  with the poor pen on some T8. Those tanks simply need removing from that MM config, no if no buts, just a chance to damage any tank on the other team



Dorander #6 Posted 21 November 2018 - 02:04 AM

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No, they are not. Like many other multiplayer games there's a rock-paper-scissors effect at best. You shouldn't expect to be able to beat every tank the same way, or play every tank the same way.

 

Additionally there are tanks that are simply bad, they encourage people to burn free xp or to make different lines appeal at different tier levels... is my best guess anyway.



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T-34/100 is a god compared to TVP VTU. 

FluffyRedFox #8 Posted 21 November 2018 - 09:40 AM

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I enjoyed both those tanks quite a bit.

Archer has a fantastic gun with a wide gun arc and good camo with enough mobility to relocate so overall I didn't see much wrong with it.

T34/100s only issue is the gun depression, as it makes the tank really clunky since its quite tall. I really loved the gun on it, makes a refreshing change to have a tier 7 med with both alpha and enough pen to not warrant gold spam. The tank after it however, the VTU, is completely irredeemable and beyond awful.



panter22 #9 Posted 21 November 2018 - 11:13 AM

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play russian tanks there are 110% balance ;)

gunslingerXXX #10 Posted 21 November 2018 - 11:25 AM

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View Postphoenix573, on 20 November 2018 - 10:27 PM, said:

There are tanks such as T-34/100 and Archer, completely unbalanced in my opinion.. They are very weak compared to literally all the other tanks in its' tier, even smaller tiers can beat them. I can barely do anything when the team isn't good either. With the current matchmaker you end up in getting +2 tier enemies as well and it will just be hell, especially when a top tier will suicide just to get you… Are these tanks and others in similar situation supposed to be a hell to play or are we supposed to "earn the next tank through hell"?

 

don't know about these examples specifically, but just consider the under powered tanks as 'hard' mode setting.

Want ultra hard? Try these tanks stock with 50% crew :trollface:



Laatikkomafia #11 Posted 21 November 2018 - 03:03 PM

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View PostDorander, on 21 November 2018 - 03:04 AM, said:

No, they are not. Like many other multiplayer games there's a rock-paper-scissors effect at best. You shouldn't expect to be able to beat every tank the same way, or play every tank the same way.

 

Additionally there are tanks that are simply bad, they encourage people to burn free xp or to make different lines appeal at different tier levels... is my best guess anyway.

 

The issue here is the fact that some premiums are rock, paper and scissors at the same time.

Geno1isme #12 Posted 21 November 2018 - 03:52 PM

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View PostGardar7, on 21 November 2018 - 09:10 AM, said:

T-34/100 is a god compared to TVP VTU. 

 

And the VTU is still godlike compared to the AMX 65t

Laatikkomafia #13 Posted 21 November 2018 - 04:32 PM

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View PostGeno1isme, on 21 November 2018 - 04:52 PM, said:

 

And the VTU is still godlike compared to the AMX 65t

 

VTU needs to be as strong as it is to counter the Defenders.

Dorander #14 Posted 21 November 2018 - 09:13 PM

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View PostLaatikkomafia, on 21 November 2018 - 02:03 PM, said:

 

The issue here is the fact that some premiums are rock, paper and scissors at the same time.

 

Such as? Can you name me three which are justifiably OP, other than the Defender/252U? Heck can you even name one?

EnglishBob_ #15 Posted 21 November 2018 - 11:42 PM

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The whole game is unbalanced ….. and would say near impossible to balance    :B

Laatikkomafia #16 Posted 22 November 2018 - 02:52 PM

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View PostDorander, on 21 November 2018 - 10:13 PM, said:

 

Such as? Can you name me three which are justifiably OP, other than the Defender/252U? Heck can you even name one?

 

If you can't figure that out yourself, you shouldn't be playing tanks above tier 6.

LordMuffin #17 Posted 22 November 2018 - 10:47 PM

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View PostDorander, on 21 November 2018 - 09:13 PM, said:

 

Such as? Can you name me three which are justifiably OP, other than the Defender/252U? Heck can you even name one?

Obj 268 v4, Obj 430U, Obj 907.


Edited by LordMuffin, 22 November 2018 - 10:47 PM.






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