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Supertest News 23/11 - Panhard EBR 105


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vuque #1 Posted 22 November 2018 - 06:36 PM

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Today we start the closed test of the French wheeled vehicles branch. The basic mechanics were checked earlier with the Tier VIII armored car, and now we get to fine-tune the entire line, starting from the top.

The first in queue is the Panhard EBR 105, the Tier X crown of the branch, expressing the unique features of wheeled vehicles the most.

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What kind of vehicle is that?

Eight wheels, two driving modes, ‘magnet’ lock-on, the charge mechanic, and other distinct features are in place (and enhanced). The vehicle is extremely vulnerable for enemy fire, with a small HP pool and almost non-existent armor, so rely on its mobility and small size to survive. It counts as a light tank but the spotting distance is much shorter than those of tracked ones. The firepower is enough to finish off a damaged enemy at the end of a battle but not for an even-sided one-on-one engagement. The Panhard’s ace in the sleeve is its mobility. A 105-mm cannon has outstanding stabilization allowing to fire on the move but its reloading speed is to underline that damage dealing isn’t armored cars’ main specialty.

So, the Panhard EBR 105 has all the strong and weak sides of wheeled vehicles pronounced and gathered together. We only have to fine-tune.

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How will it play?

At the start of a battle, as an extremely active spotter. At the middle, as a very agile reconnaissance vehicle with limited firepower. At a battle’s end, as a rapid and dangerous predator. ‘Speed and aggression’ is a wheeled vehicle’s creed. The Panhard will be relatively tough to handle and will suit experienced and confident tankers.

Depending on test results, we may change the stats for the Panhard EBR 105. Please follow the news and all the luck in every battle!


Edited by vuque, 22 November 2018 - 06:43 PM.


FluffyRedFox #2 Posted 23 November 2018 - 01:34 PM

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Still min-maxed to hell, would much prefer it if some of the stats (mobility, gun handling) were toned down a bit so that other things (pen, view range) could get to be somewhat useful. 198 base pen / 240 HEAT is unreasonably bad for a tier X. I get that they're supposed to circle enemies, but 198 is going to struggle against the side profiles of many heavies since you will need a flat side profile in order to pen reliably. The tier 8 AC gets light-tank pen levels, I do not see why the tier X can't have the same.



M4th73 #3 Posted 23 November 2018 - 04:59 PM

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Looking great except for pen (rly wg ? 240 in gold ?)

Just was wondering, wasn't it supposed to be 110/-110 Km/h ? Like it was said in your vid on it ?



kaneloon #4 Posted 23 November 2018 - 05:11 PM

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200 pen is supposed to be enough if you can circle the enemy and always be at 180° of its gun.

FluffyRedFox #5 Posted 23 November 2018 - 05:24 PM

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View PostM4th73, on 23 November 2018 - 03:59 PM, said:

Looking great except for pen (rly wg ? 240 in gold ?)

240 HEAT at that, so basically worthless.



Search_Warrant #6 Posted 23 November 2018 - 10:09 PM

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Holy crud they look terrible. that pen is borderline preff tier 8 worthy its so bad. 350 viewrange is S1 levels of viewrange.. its a fast snack... literally "fast food". this is next level terribad min-max.

Hiisi #7 Posted 24 November 2018 - 12:20 PM

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  • Viewrange is too bad to be active scout. Everyone will outspot you (if it has same gamo values as amx 13 105). People can shoot you and no beeing spotted from around 380 meters. In most of the maps this means full commitment/yolorush.
  • Might be too much of an hazzle, when you have 2 driving modes+rabid acceleration+handbrake etc.
    • Would it work if you had alternative mode for driving modes, so other mode would only be activated when you keep a button down, when you release it driving mode would change instantly?
  • Big alfa gun but bad pen? Why not fast firing low alfa gun with decent pen? 
    • It is good against soft targets now, but poor against heavily armored ones. Give it 240 alfa, but 220 ish base pen with ok dpm (tier 10 level) and bit better accuracy. So it would be better when shooting sides from a far away, but alfa and pen would be that low that it would not be vice to engage even soft targets even fromtally. 

 

 



_cro_magnon #8 Posted 28 November 2018 - 01:44 PM

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View PostFluffyRedFox, on 23 November 2018 - 05:24 PM, said:

240 HEAT at that, so basically worthless.

 

Yeah, M4 Rev has 200/250 pen and 250 HEAT is really unreliable.

Hezs #9 Posted 30 November 2018 - 08:39 PM

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Lights and wheeled vehicles should have low alfa, good pen and dpm. Now tier 10 light tanks have about 200 or less pen when firing long range, and this wheeled vehicle will have even less!! Not cool. 

 


Edited by Hezs, 30 November 2018 - 08:40 PM.


Tijsbeek993 #10 Posted 02 January 2019 - 02:42 PM

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View PostHezs, on 30 November 2018 - 08:39 PM, said:

Lights and wheeled vehicles should have low alfa, good pen and dpm. Now tier 10 light tanks have about 200 or less pen when firing long range, and this wheeled vehicle will have even less!! Not cool. 

 

 

Lights are the most underpowered vehicles in the game. So what's the problem?

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eekeeboo #12 Posted 09 January 2019 - 11:35 AM

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View PostTomotorqemada, on 09 January 2019 - 02:22 AM, said:

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I'm so confused what you're actually trying to say! 

grizly1973 #13 Posted 09 January 2019 - 11:38 AM

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View Posteekeeboo, on 09 January 2019 - 12:35 PM, said:

 

I'm so confused what you're actually trying to say! 

 

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Little dissapointed how this line ends. Just the same 'like t8, but bigger!'

Well, here's hoping that Italians get something intresting.

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View Post4nt, on 09 January 2019 - 02:18 PM, said:

Little dissapointed how this line ends. Just the same 'like t8, but bigger!'

Well, here's hoping that Italians get something intresting.

 

Tier 9 would be a Ferrari and tier 10 would be a Lamborghini.

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Heya all,

I would share a pic of a Rooikat, as a player based in South Africa on the EU server, it's an 8 wheeled light AV w. 76mm from sunny South Africa :)

https://www.reddit.c...pfsds_armoured/



Tijsbeek993 #17 Posted 16 January 2019 - 11:32 AM

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The tank is I think too fast.
It is hard to control, it would be better to make the gun less high alpha and like 200 pen. 
But when 1.4 hits the live server.
After a month the MM wil be normal again. (everyone is gona play the wheeledvehicles at the start)

Then whe wil see how good it is..

I see a lot of youtubers and streamers passive spotting with the EBR 75 and EBR 100..
Not everyone understands why it is that fast.. 




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