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____Green____ #21 Posted 03 December 2018 - 04:02 PM

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Skorp in my opinion better.

+++

Can be played as supporter, and if needed MT at endgame.

360 turret, reload time, I have almost 7 perk crew on it

0.3 accuracy

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Only 4 crew members, not same as on Grill and JGPZE100

30 rounds ammo capacity

 

+++

SU - same crew as on both USSR tier X TD's

One trick pony - 520 alpha

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Loooooooong way to 7perk crew.

 

If you own skorp - SU is optional. 

 


Edited by ____Green____, 03 December 2018 - 04:06 PM.


Anna_Kalashnikova #22 Posted 03 December 2018 - 04:13 PM

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View Posteekeeboo, on 03 December 2018 - 04:00 PM, said:

 

I said take it back! I admit nothing other than new is best! 

 

 

soooooo.... WG admits, that all new (premium) tanks are supposed to be better than everything before, instead of being fair balanced?

 

Spoiler

 


Edited by Anna_Kalashnikova, 03 December 2018 - 04:14 PM.


____Green____ #23 Posted 03 December 2018 - 04:15 PM

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If ppl has time to complete all missions to get SU for free - its awesome. SU in my opinion is better option for weaker players who manage to do only 2-3 penetrations per match on AVR.

Makenshi11 #24 Posted 03 December 2018 - 04:39 PM

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I havent tried the tank, since i havent gotten it yet so ill refrain from giving too much an oppinion.

But so far it seems even more like an RHM borsig than the scorpion only being faster than i expected from looking at the engine power.

But i would like to say that i realy liked the comparison between the stats of the SU-130 and the scorpion G.
I hope you keep this up with future tanks that are introduced. So give the person who put in the work a thumbs up from me.

Sfinski #25 Posted 03 December 2018 - 04:40 PM

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Missing the bloom values and terrain resistances. These stats mean nothing when so much is hidden.

_Davidge_ #26 Posted 03 December 2018 - 04:44 PM

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Su-130PM has significantly better camo rating than Skorpion G (both stationary and on the move) has more "derpy" gun that  is less precise on long range than the German,  but it hits harder (alpha ).
 

Thus, I find Su-130PM official recomendation only for camp-Bush setting (Binocs, Camo net, Rammer) strange.Its ok for beginners.I will definitely try it  though of course.
 

But because Su-130 PM has better cammo and has less precise but more stronger( alpha) gun  I think Su-130 PM  should be equaly good if not even better for agressive support(Optics, Rammer, EGLD) than Skorpion G ?
 

Ok, maybe limited turret rotation is the problem?


Edited by _Davidge_, 03 December 2018 - 04:53 PM.


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View PostAnna_Kalashnikova, on 03 December 2018 - 03:13 PM, said:

 

 

Essentially... this is me: 

Spoiler

 

 



Simona2k #28 Posted 03 December 2018 - 05:11 PM

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Skorpion G :3

NoobySkooby #29 Posted 03 December 2018 - 05:19 PM

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View PostSturmi_0545, on 03 December 2018 - 04:06 PM, said:

In the end, the Skorpion G will lose that duel due to its larger silhouette ... and ugly skin.

 

Skin has nothing to do with it, and there is a mod (Mirukii's Skorpion G remodel) out that where you turn black, and it looks way way better than the normal skin.

 

It is a shame they did not put the Borsig's cut down turret on the Skorpion G, now that would have made it a lot better.

 

I so want the SU 130, but........ seeing as I cannot make the Skorpion G work for me, I don't see the point, and not having a fully rotating turret is a serious bad point.

 

 

So maybe the Skorpion G is still king.



Chronis_Psy #30 Posted 03 December 2018 - 05:28 PM

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RIP Scorpion G boring to see it all time in battles already 2+ per team! SU has all very good plus way better camo speed damage and as about camo is the Alpha and Omega in this kind of tanks....and something else SU 130PM actually existed as real model is not fantasy made like the scorpion G

Edited by Chronis_Psy, 03 December 2018 - 05:34 PM.


GetFoched #31 Posted 03 December 2018 - 05:49 PM

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Skorpion G is overall better, because turret and 0.29 accuracy. 
 

As good ol' Circonflexes says: "Buy a turret" 
So far I'm at stage 5, I may get it if I manage to get a decent enough discount. 


Edited by GetFoched, 03 December 2018 - 05:50 PM.


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I prefer the Skorp G

SlenderMoose #33 Posted 03 December 2018 - 07:14 PM

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humbug!

diansebastian #34 Posted 03 December 2018 - 07:28 PM

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can we take a second to appreciate that someone from WG takes their time to reply to this conversation more than once? :)

nerdzapper #35 Posted 03 December 2018 - 08:10 PM

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Why are we comparing these two? Skorpion G is a far better tank. It has a normal turret. Debate over.

_Davidge_ #36 Posted 03 December 2018 - 10:02 PM

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View PostChronis_Psy, on 03 December 2018 - 05:28 PM, said:

RIP Scorpion G boring to see it all time in battles already 2+ per team! SU has all very good plus way better camo speed damage and as about camo is the Alpha and Omega in this kind of tanks....and something else SU 130PM actually existed as real model is not fantasy made like the scorpion G

 

In my experince what prevented Skorpion  to be OP in my hands was actually its meh camo rating.

 

So...SU130 PM has around ,correct me if I am wrong, 35 % better camo rating than Skorpion. And I think this will make SU  extremly dangerous.Of course must try it to be clear about it.

I hope they will not nerf it.

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View Postnerdzapper, on 03 December 2018 - 08:10 PM, said:

Why are we comparing these two? Skorpion G is a far better tank. It has a normal turret. Debate over.

 

  We shall see, SU 130 PM has  significantly better camo rating than Skorp G both stationary and on the move. For a TD ambusher this is extremly important characteristics.

Edited by _Davidge_, 03 December 2018 - 10:07 PM.


WindSplitter1 #37 Posted 03 December 2018 - 10:06 PM

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Nice article and quite of a fitting header image.

 

KV-2 X O-I - Kings of Derp

 

Now...

 

Rhm. Skorpion X SU-130PM - Beast Slayers



basin79 #38 Posted 03 December 2018 - 10:27 PM

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Skorpion - German.

SU 130 - Russian.

SU wins by default because Raaaaaaaaaasha!!!!!!!!!!

RagingRaptor #39 Posted 03 December 2018 - 10:34 PM

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I put a quickreview together. I do want to point out that there is a blantant lie in the article. The mobility is by miles not better then the one of the Skorpion G. It might turn faster, yes but acceleration? Nope, it is slow as a prebuffed centurion. I did a dragrace of the two tanks with same crews and here is the result at 8:26

 

 

Anyway, its a good tank, but I think better players will take the mobility as more important and will go for the Skorpion G

 

cheers yall



_Davidge_ #40 Posted 03 December 2018 - 10:35 PM

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View Postbasin79, on 03 December 2018 - 10:27 PM, said:

Skorpion - German.

SU 130 - Russian.

SU wins by default because Raaaaaaaaaasha!!!!!!!!!!

 

Good point.

If we  count better camo and practically proved invisible RNG  treatment for all USSR tanks,  the OP question is more of academic nature, actually to make reasuring atmosphere in which owners of Scorpion G will be comforted by belief  their old hero tank is still the best.
 


 


Edited by _Davidge_, 03 December 2018 - 10:38 PM.





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