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Poll: Marathon Extension (140 members have cast votes)

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Extend SU-130PM Marathon by 2 Days? (To 12/12/2018 10:00 CET)

  1. Yes please. (86 votes [61.43%])

    Percentage of vote: 61.43%

  2. No thanks. (54 votes [38.57%])

    Percentage of vote: 38.57%

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Dava_117 #21 Posted 05 December 2018 - 10:32 AM

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Voted no mainly to end this marathon madness. Every time there is a marathone gameplay became even more random and unpredictable.

It's allways nice to get some freebies, but the game became less unenjoyable too.



Simeon85 #22 Posted 05 December 2018 - 11:01 AM

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View PostSchepel, on 05 December 2018 - 12:02 AM, said:

Please, no.

 

The game is infested by people in tier tens who are playing beyond poorly. I have no idea why they are even playing tier tens: they are clearly never going to do the stage requirements, but they are playing tier ten anyway. The longer this marathon is active, the longer these people are basically ruining the game. Loss after loss because people appear to bot in tier tens. There is just no other word for it. This means tier 8 and tier 9 are equally bad.

 

Whilst I agree with this, sadly tier 10 is still the quickest route to achieving the level of discount I want, if we had more time I could go the XP route and NOT play near the horrible mess that is tier 10.

 

But I am glad it's not just me that is suffering this. 2 wins out of 16 last night, every game pretty much was all tier 10 games where I simply can't carry a team that loses 5-6 tier 10 heavies in the first two minutes with them doing basically zero damage. 

 

 



Wintermute_1 #23 Posted 05 December 2018 - 11:21 AM

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View PostElua, on 05 December 2018 - 12:15 AM, said:

You are so naive.WG designed those marathons not to give free stuff, it is for selling tank for lower price. You must pay, this is #1 priority.

 

Yup, they looked at the Caernarvon AX marathon and cut a chunk of time off this event for a reason and it wasn't to help players maximise their discounts.

Rati_Festa #24 Posted 05 December 2018 - 12:02 PM

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View PostSimeon85, on 05 December 2018 - 11:01 AM, said:

 

Whilst I agree with this, sadly tier 10 is still the quickest route to achieving the level of discount I want, if we had more time I could go the XP route and NOT play near the horrible mess that is tier 10.

 

But I am glad it's not just me that is suffering this. 2 wins out of 16 last night, every game pretty much was all tier 10 games where I simply can't carry a team that loses 5-6 tier 10 heavies in the first two minutes with them doing basically zero damage. 

 

 

 

​It's weird isnt it, that a lot of really poor players actually play t10 when they have absolutely no chance of getting high calibre or top player for xp. It really shows a lack of intelligence when they read the mission requirements and balance it against thier actual playing level/ability and come to the conclusion that its possible to complete.

 

I've been playing t8 and its constant -2 tiers but 90% of the time the t10 players are that bad that I can beat them one on one.  My last 181 games I have wn8 2749 and wr 62% :) which is a whopping 1k up on my global wn8 and 10% lift on my global WR all t8 games and a few t6.... killing noobs in thier t10s has been fun.


Edited by Rati_Festa, 05 December 2018 - 12:04 PM.


Simeon85 #25 Posted 05 December 2018 - 01:14 PM

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View PostRati_Festa, on 05 December 2018 - 12:02 PM, said:

 

​It's weird isnt it, that a lot of really poor players actually play t10 when they have absolutely no chance of getting high calibre or top player for xp. It really shows a lack of intelligence when they read the mission requirements and balance it against thier actual playing level/ability and come to the conclusion that its possible to complete.

 

I've been playing t8 and its constant -2 tiers but 90% of the time the t10 players are that bad that I can beat them one on one.  My last 181 games I have wn8 2749 and wr 62% :) which is a whopping 1k up on my global wn8 and 10% lift on my global WR all t8 games and a few t6.... killing noobs in thier t10s has been fun.

 

Yep makes zero sense to me, these players can barely string two shots of damage together before they die, but somehow think they are going to get 850 base XP 15 times? or 4.5k damage multiple times? I looked at some of them on their accounts and some had never done over 4.5k in some of their tier 10 vehicles. 

Rati_Festa #26 Posted 05 December 2018 - 01:32 PM

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View PostSimeon85, on 05 December 2018 - 01:14 PM, said:

 

Yep makes zero sense to me, these players can barely string two shots of damage together before they die, but somehow think they are going to get 850 base XP 15 times? or 4.5k damage multiple times? I looked at some of them on their accounts and some had never done over 4.5k in some of their tier 10 vehicles. 

 

​Its the sheer volume as well, I can understand people struggling at T10 as I do but I have the sense to play it sparingly or pick my better tanks. I was watching some streams the other day and the guy had XVM running, literally 50% of the t10 players were just nasty reds, I mean like 1 shot wonders. How much losing can humans take, before it becomes a unbearable. I just can't get my head round playing that out of thier depth game after game after game, the amount of credits they must be bleeding would be enough to put most sane people off after 3-4 matches you would hope.

 

As soon as I saw the requirements for the marathon for the T10 matches, I thought straight away its gona be far more enjoyable, quicker and a hell of a lot cheaper to just grind this in my fave tank

 

The irony is the SU looks like it will only shine with a decent crew and a half decent player, the fact bobs are wasting their time failing in t10 matches trying to get it to epically fail some more in t8 matches is just funny :)

 

I can't recall what single player game it is ( it might be Never Winter Nights ) but when you play it the loading screen says something like "If you are finding the game to hard goto settings and change the playing level" - WG should introduce some form of messaging to the sub 50% saying suggesting that they play lower tiers, Im sure if they reset some peoples expectations on this game it would make it far less toxic. Red players shouldn't be playing t10 matches for everyones sake...


Edited by Rati_Festa, 05 December 2018 - 01:45 PM.


Stig_Stigma #27 Posted 05 December 2018 - 01:59 PM

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I got it for free In 3 and half days. So.NO. I was grinding exp with the rental scorpion g, and this tank feels absolutely horrible compared to the scorpion g. 

PowJay #28 Posted 05 December 2018 - 02:05 PM

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I really don't care as I am not going to try for it and I am not going to pay for it. At the moment I am well on course for the free equipment bundle and that will do me just fine- plus a day's Premium account.

Geno1isme #29 Posted 05 December 2018 - 02:12 PM

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Duration should have been longer from the start, they won't prolong it now though. Simply because some people would be upset for spending more than necessary already.

laulaur #30 Posted 05 December 2018 - 02:43 PM

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View PostStig_Stigma, on 05 December 2018 - 12:59 PM, said:

I got it for free I paid people to farm it for me In 3 and half days. So.NO. I was grinding exp with the rental scorpion g, and this tank feels absolutely horrible compared to the scorpion g. 

 

FTFY



brisha #31 Posted 05 December 2018 - 02:52 PM

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This isn't about a free tank, it business. The last one was 14 days that was to long, they didn't sell enough. So how to sell more? Well the brains at WG worked out that 10 days will generate a lot more players who cant finish the mission so will have to buy it. %0% 60% discount, it makes no difference, any thing is better than nothing for a few pixels.

pihip #32 Posted 05 December 2018 - 03:44 PM

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View PostElua, on 05 December 2018 - 12:15 AM, said:

You are so naive.WG designed those marathons not to give free stuff, it is for selling tank for lower price. You must pay, this is #1 priority.

 

This. The fact that for each sector cleared you get a 10% discount on the bundle is proof - they do not want us to win the tank for free, they want us to buy the tank with whatever discount we've managed to get.

Which makes perfect sense for WG Minsk. For them, free stuff is bad for business.

ZeroCommaZero #33 Posted 05 December 2018 - 04:06 PM

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View Postpihip, on 05 December 2018 - 03:44 PM, said:

 For them, free stuff is bad for business.

 

For everybody not only for them.

I managed to come to Stage X allready. WR over 60% helped a lot.



Stig_Stigma #34 Posted 05 December 2018 - 05:12 PM

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View Postlaulaur, on 05 December 2018 - 02:43 PM, said:

 

FTFY

 

If that makes ur stupid worldview not collapse and cause u a mental breakdown, im ok.
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View Postbrisha, on 05 December 2018 - 02:52 PM, said:

This isn't about a free tank, it business. The last one was 14 days that was to long, they didn't sell enough. So how to sell more? Well the brains at WG worked out that 10 days will generate a lot more players who cant finish the mission so will have to buy it. %0% 60% discount, it makes no difference, any thing is better than nothing for a few pixels.

 

theres no  doubt about it..., the only way you take the tank for "free" is if you do all the 10 stages. but even than the tank is not for free, since you spent your time grinding while you could have done other stuff. I grinded it all in a few days, just because I played Friday, Saturday and Sunday and had no other thing to do.

 

wargaming still wins if you buy the tank at a 50, or even 60% discount, since the discount is applied not to the price of the tank itself, but to an inflated price that includes all the other fillers that WG has inserted on the different stages. You get some benefit on the real price of the tank only when you go over the 60% discount.  but is it worth your time if you are not vacationing? 



DeadLecter #35 Posted 05 December 2018 - 07:21 PM

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Those who voted no have either masochism or have big wallets because doing this marathon in 10 days is a nightmare

VarzA #36 Posted 05 December 2018 - 09:26 PM

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View PostItchy_Pants, on 05 December 2018 - 12:39 AM, said:

Presumably they set the parameters so that an expected (low) X no of people get the tank for free, another X get 90% discount, and so on, and they come out with a profit of BYR X, and we all participate to the extent that we appreciate the value of either (a) the stuff you get for doing stages, (b) the discount you get on the tank (or both), and we're all happy.

 

You want Wargaming to alter the parameters so that you're more happy and they are less happy. I don't think they'll go for that, to be honest. I voted yes, though, obviously.

 

The way it is setup, i think the vast majority of players will get it for 30-40% discount tbh ... which means you actually overpay for what you get. Directives are of no real use (as they are too expensive for the most part) and the only awesome boosters you might buy with money are the credit ones .... which are just 10.



250swb #37 Posted 05 December 2018 - 10:22 PM

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I voted No, and while I do have the tank already it's not because I'm trying to be a meanie to other players. But this marathon is ruining the gameplay at the moment and the sooner it is over the better it will be. In the future all marathons should be as long as it takes to get the tank, not time limited, then no jealousy, no whining about missing the deadline, everybody is happy. Make winning a free tank a rare and satisfying experience and not a demented grind.

Bordhaw #38 Posted 05 December 2018 - 10:23 PM

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View PostPervyPastryPuffer, on 04 December 2018 - 10:24 PM, said:

We can all agree, this is the grindiest one yet. But, do you think it should be extended by two days?

 

 



jack_timber #39 Posted 06 December 2018 - 01:34 AM

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2 days!

Another 2 months for me may just be able to finish it.....



NoobySkooby #40 Posted 06 December 2018 - 03:37 AM

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View PostDeadLecter, on 05 December 2018 - 07:21 PM, said:

Those who voted no have either masochism or have big wallets because doing this marathon in 10 days is a nightmare

 

I voted no because I am fed up of all this crap
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View Post250swb, on 05 December 2018 - 10:22 PM, said:

I voted No, and while I do have the tank already it's not because I'm trying to be a meanie to other players. But this marathon is ruining the gameplay at the moment and the sooner it is over the better it will be. In the future all marathons should be as long as it takes to get the tank, not time limited, then no jealousy, no whining about missing the deadline, everybody is happy. Make winning a free tank a rare and satisfying experience and not a demented grind.

 

Spot on, marathons should be six weeks or more, and stilt the tank is crap, why the hell put a turret on it if it does not fully traverse? Next to useless, just the T 28 prototype.





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