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kaneloon #21 Posted 07 December 2018 - 08:10 AM

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For my part I am actively waiting for this marathon to end ...

undutchable80 #22 Posted 07 December 2018 - 08:58 AM

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View PostTheDrownedApe, on 06 December 2018 - 06:45 PM, said:

well im grinding 2 xT9 so i'm actively hoping for 5,10 MM, thank god for the marathon

 

Yup, play T9 or T6 in KV-2 or OI = 0 F's given. :P

Cobra6 #23 Posted 07 December 2018 - 09:39 AM

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Let's get to the more important point here.

 

*WHY* are you obliged to play only T10 vehicles for the awards? Why can't you use any vehicle over tier 6? Who cares if the (for instance) high caliber was gotten in T6, 7, 8, 9 or 10? It's a personal marathon.

Or make it so that for T9/10 you only need 1 high caliber, T7/8 you need 2 High Calibers and for T6 you need 3 or something.

 

Stop forcing people to play Tier 10 as T10 in randoms is completely garbage due to atrocious balancing and over importance of armor.

 

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SovietBias #24 Posted 07 December 2018 - 09:41 AM

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View Postxx984, on 06 December 2018 - 05:04 PM, said:

 

 Surely more varied gameplay that doesn't get stale and repetitive is worth a few extra seconds waiting.

 

 

 

This BS is repeated here ad nauseam like some sort of mantra.

 

How exactly does fighting against +2 MM tanks make this game any less stale or repetitive for those at the bottom? Or at the top? Is preying on hopeless lower tiers enjoyable variety?

 

Put yourself on those tier 8 shoes: after a few rounds of same tier battles, is variety and excitement found when you get placed bottom tier in a tier X match instead? 

 

Not to mention the tier distribution issues already raised by some posters here. 

 

Variety is achieved with better balance. Not by increasing the tier gap. The state of tier X power level balance (and to some extent, the maps) is the problem. Frontline is a good example of that. 



BSHDBCG #25 Posted 07 December 2018 - 09:42 AM

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Currently I am getting a lot more top tier battles as T8 compared to normally. I wish the MM could stay like this, with T10 only playing their own.

Igor_BL #26 Posted 07 December 2018 - 11:07 AM

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View PostNoobySkooby, on 07 December 2018 - 03:09 AM, said:

View PostIgor_BL, on 06 December 2018 - 06:10 PM, said:

I would rather be tier8 in tierX matches, then play full tierX battles.

 

15v15 tierX is the worst this MM can offer.

 

I disagree, when I am in full tier  matches I get a better game that when in mixed tiers, in mixed tiers every one everyone just loads the gold.

 

Full tierX matches are the epitome of gold spam.



Simeon85 #27 Posted 07 December 2018 - 11:25 AM

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View PostCobra6, on 07 December 2018 - 09:39 AM, said:

Let's get to the more important point here.

 

*WHY* are you obliged to play only T10 vehicles for the awards? Why can't you use any vehicle over tier 6? Who cares if the (for instance) high caliber was gotten in T6, 7, 8, 9 or 10? It's a personal marathon.

Or make it so that for T9/10 you only need 1 high caliber, T7/8 you need 2 High Calibers and for T6 you need 3 or something.

 

Stop forcing people to play Tier 10 as T10 in randoms is completely garbage due to atrocious balancing and over importance of armor.

 

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This as well, it's supposed to be the 'skilled' route as opposed the 'grindy' route, so why does the skilled route have to be just tier 10, good play is good play, if you are getting 850 base XP then you are generally doing a decent job for your team. 

 

The main issue is tier 10 is horribly balanced, there is far far too much armour that is far too powerful, and this means games are basically 10-12 armoured tanks aside with most of the rest of the team either big alpha TDs or arty. The poor maps mean playing something non-armoured is largely pointless because you will be looking at 2-3 spots at best that are choked up with rolling bunker or invincible hull down heavies stuck in a rng fest stalemate.

 

There is little point using the 'strengths' of your vehicle because everyone else has the same strengths, if you go fight in yoru hull down tank, you will go to the 1-2 spots available to you and be facing 4-5 equally as good hull down tanks you can do little to.

 

If you got somewhere else you'll find 4 more, or you'll find JpE100s, FV4005s staring down a corridor waiting for someone to push.

 

Then on top of all this you'll have terrible terrible players everywhere who are flooding tier 10 to do missions they will never be able to do.

 

Ranked, these marathons that force tier 10 play, create more all tier 10 games, which then just show how badly tier 10 is balanced and how really only a handful of tier 10 tanks are competitive. 



Strappster #28 Posted 07 December 2018 - 11:47 AM

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View PostBSHDBCG, on 07 December 2018 - 08:42 AM, said:

Currently I am getting a lot more top tier battles as T8 compared to normally. I wish the MM could stay like this, with T10 only playing their own.

 

I suspect this is why we're seeing so many events for tier 10 vehicles. It's a quick fix for 3/5/7 match-making if you take a bunch of tier 10s out of the queue. Trouble is that so many players don't want to play full tier 10 battles for various reasons, one of which is that they didn't grind all that way to not stomp lower tiers.

UrQuan #29 Posted 07 December 2018 - 11:54 AM

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It's a bit of a mess, but been finding ways around it. If you're after a blocking mission, this is your chance. Same for spotting missions. Been having more blocked damage then ever before in Maus. And while it annoys me to no end, KV-4 is being great skaut on various maps (including prohorovka sadly), so I imagine any tank that actually has workable viewrange can do magic. 

Have to sort out my dependability on teammates tho, during the marathon it feels much more 'every tanker for himself', which does tend to screw me over at times.

And if it all goes to hell & the games are being really unfun, the tier 4 B2 awaits me to train my crews at tier 4 (thank you for showing me the way Drummond & Dingers).



XxKuzkina_MatxX #30 Posted 07 December 2018 - 12:05 PM

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Thank god it's over! :rolleyes:

 



Cobra6 #31 Posted 07 December 2018 - 12:07 PM

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View PostXxKuzkina_MatxX, on 07 December 2018 - 11:05 AM, said:

Thank god it's over! :rolleyes:

 

 

You decided to draw your wallet to end the pain? :D

 

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XxKuzkina_MatxX #32 Posted 07 December 2018 - 12:08 PM

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View PostCobra6, on 07 December 2018 - 01:07 PM, said:

 

You decided to draw your wallet to end the pain? :D

 

Nope, brute force and a touch of insomnia for the last couple of days.

BlueSnail #33 Posted 07 December 2018 - 12:09 PM

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Nice to hear this.  I have one tier 8 tank, which I hate to run since it always faces tier X tanks.

I did get a tier 9 recently.  Its not fully upgraded yet and I am not skilled at higher tier battles.  :child:

But I am really happy that tier X meet mostly tier X.



kaneloon #34 Posted 07 December 2018 - 12:10 PM

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View PostUrQuan, on 07 December 2018 - 10:54 AM, said:

And if it all goes to hell & the games are being really unfun, the tier 4 B2 awaits me to train my crews at tier 4 (thank you for showing me the way Drummond & Dingers).

 

Hi, what do you mean by "showing me the way" ?

I'm interrested to see the light too :)

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View PostBlueSnail, on 07 December 2018 - 11:09 AM, said:

But I am really happy that tier X meet mostly tier X.

 

Problem is that it is waayyy more difficult to do a good tiers X game than with tiers 8 and 9. Half the X players are good and half of them run full gold ammos.


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Wintermute_1 #35 Posted 07 December 2018 - 12:18 PM

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Tier X has the MM tier 8 can only dream of for the period of 10 days.

 

Not a problem.



UrQuan #36 Posted 07 December 2018 - 12:18 PM

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View Postkaneloon, on 07 December 2018 - 12:10 PM, said:

 

Hi, what do you mean by "showing me the way" ?

I'm interrested to see the light too :)

 

The B2 is a tier 4 German HT prem tank gets eternal toptier as MM. I had it for a while, but never used (can't honestly remember where i got it from, I suspect last year's lootboxes), then got informed it always sees toptier. Boom, new crewtrainer for my Maus girls (and one lucky radioman from my VK 45 B crew). Sealclubber extraordinaire too, so I use it in moderation. 

Matildas & hetzers eat it for breakfast tho & Valentines are tough opponents. 



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View PostCobra6, on 07 December 2018 - 08:39 AM, said:

Let's get to the more important point here.

 

*WHY* are you obliged to play only T10 vehicles for the awards? Why can't you use any vehicle over tier 6? Who cares if the (for instance) high caliber was gotten in T6, 7, 8, 9 or 10? It's a personal marathon.

Or make it so that for T9/10 you only need 1 high caliber, T7/8 you need 2 High Calibers and for T6 you need 3 or something.

 

Stop forcing people to play Tier 10 as T10 in randoms is completely garbage due to atrocious balancing and over importance of armor.

 

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Why? This is too obvious. WG want us to play tier X cause you will need a premium account to do so. The amount of gold ammo being slung around I'd say at least 50% of the players run at a constant credit loss.

 

I agree, there should have been an option to achieve the stages via awards rather than xp grind at tiers other than X too.

I would have loved to have seen the challenge tier 4 to 10 but again it all comes down to the buck. There are a hell of a lot of players who are f2p (and who make a profit) at tier 5 and rarely go higher.






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