CZ?
Silentstalker
15 Dec 2011
Calm down mate, I am not accusing you of anything. But - and I don't really want to get political here - lots of people do consider Germans "nazis" not because of history, but because of current policies of Angela Merkel, who clearly wants to transform the EU into Fourth Reich along with Sarkozy and the French. The worst evil of nazism isn't the racism, it is the lust of control and dominance of others.
Helldix
15 Dec 2011
So what? Someone looking for native buddy and then they chat in their language, what a audacity! Much worst are players which have "noob" comments just becouse their team losing. Little bit of tolerance would be nice.
Idahou
15 Dec 2011
Tolerant? From who? I dont mind, if is in chat some "siemka, Nazdar, Hola, hallo" or other national "hi", but some long conversation (one time i met two germans, every in other team, who talked about girfriends cat, in german of course)* arent tolerant and its bothering for others...
I suggested already in beta - only english in battle chat, except national hi...
*No offence against germany, in this case, i just remebred this example
I suggested already in beta - only english in battle chat, except national hi...
*No offence against germany, in this case, i just remebred this example
PzGrenKdr
15 Dec 2011
Silentstalker, on 15 December 2011 - 05:07 PM, said:
Calm down mate, I am not accusing you of anything. But - and I don't really want to get political here - lots of people do consider Germans "nazis" not because of history, but because of current policies of Angela Merkel, who clearly wants to transform the EU into Fourth Reich along with Sarkozy and the French. The worst evil of nazism isn't the racism, it is the lust of control and dominance of others.
yeah pay for us but pls don´t say what to do. 1 year ago many euopean countries and the USA say: "why Merkel/Germany don´t lead in this situation?" "why they refuse to lead?" Now Merkel/Germany and France start to lead and make rules for getting money, germany is called nazi-state/4th reich.....
Many european countries (and the US) lived long time beyond one's means with borrowed money, now they have to pay for.
Would you lend someone your money if you know you will never get it back and every year more money is needed? Greek have no working tax-system and no working administration, the OECD said this, not I.
Maybe French/German way isn´t the right way in all points, but it´s a way and now the try to lead and get blamed for.
Silentstalker
15 Dec 2011
PzGrenKdr, on 15 December 2011 - 07:28 PM, said:
yeah pay for us but pls don´t say what to do. 1 year ago many euopean countries and the USA say: "why Merkel/Germany don´t lead in this situation?" "why they refuse to lead?" Now Merkel/Germany and France start to lead and make rules for getting money, germany is called nazi-state/4th reich.....
Many european countries (and the US) lived long time beyond one's means with borrowed money, now they have to pay for.
Would you lend someone your money if you know you will never get it back and every year more money is needed? Greek have no working tax-system and no working administration, the OECD said this, not I.
Maybe French/German way isn´t the right way in all points, but it´s a way and now the try to lead and get blamed for.
Many european countries (and the US) lived long time beyond one's means with borrowed money, now they have to pay for.
Would you lend someone your money if you know you will never get it back and every year more money is needed? Greek have no working tax-system and no working administration, the OECD said this, not I.
Maybe French/German way isn´t the right way in all points, but it´s a way and now the try to lead and get blamed for.
I doubt anyone asked you to pay anything. Merkel and Sarkozy don't lead, they rule. I (and the rest of Czechs who are payers btw, not recievers) are NOT interested in German fourth reich ambitions. So yes, you Germans don't have anything to say about other countries' policies. Borrowing money to countries in order to buy them and then getting screwed... sucks to be you
PzGrenKdr
15 Dec 2011
i have to pay taxes, so i have to pay for EU and greec and so on.
Also Czech Republic don´t need money from EU atm, you have a good economy and a solid administration system. You aren´t forced to follow such strict rules to get money from EU. So why blame France/Germany?
Whats you solution? Should France/Germany do nothing(imo a national bankruptcy of Greece would be so bad and a good time for a new start, see Argentina) or give money until they have nothing left?
Why this hate against Germany? I know some Czech ppl(live in Saxony), most blame me for being German(my fault?) and behave very arrogant while working on same project. Only 2-3 ppl were firendly, why? Whats the reason for this(your) hate?
Do you are realy scared of a 4th reich? Never ever, before the most german would kill themself.
Also Czech Republic don´t need money from EU atm, you have a good economy and a solid administration system. You aren´t forced to follow such strict rules to get money from EU. So why blame France/Germany?
Whats you solution? Should France/Germany do nothing(imo a national bankruptcy of Greece would be so bad and a good time for a new start, see Argentina) or give money until they have nothing left?
Why this hate against Germany? I know some Czech ppl(live in Saxony), most blame me for being German(my fault?) and behave very arrogant while working on same project. Only 2-3 ppl were firendly, why? Whats the reason for this(your) hate?
Do you are realy scared of a 4th reich? Never ever, before the most german would kill themself.
Silentstalker
15 Dec 2011
Hey, first and foremost - I worked in Germany for several years (Bavaria, Nurnberg) so I know that our peoples are actually pretty close to each other, I didn't mean to stir up hate.
But - what the Merkozy duo is doing is pushing Europe towards more and more federalism under the political hegemony of Germany and France, which is completely unacceptable for us (with our history, it should come as no surprise) - for example fiscal union is totally wrong, but that's just one facet of the whole issue. Now they ask us (Czechs) to send 90 billion CZK (cca 4 billion EUR) to stabilize the EU monetary union - why? See - we are angry just as you about the whole mess with Greece.
But - what the Merkozy duo is doing is pushing Europe towards more and more federalism under the political hegemony of Germany and France, which is completely unacceptable for us (with our history, it should come as no surprise) - for example fiscal union is totally wrong, but that's just one facet of the whole issue. Now they ask us (Czechs) to send 90 billion CZK (cca 4 billion EUR) to stabilize the EU monetary union - why? See - we are angry just as you about the whole mess with Greece.
PzGrenKdr
15 Dec 2011
So solution is fire Greece, later Portugal, Spain, Italy, Ireland and so out of EU/Euro-states(so only a EU of the strong states of northern/eastern Europe)? This or real United European Nations(UEN) with 1 goverment for foreign affairs, military, economy and finances and maybe some more. Administarion coulde be different for each member of the UEN.
ALso there was/is and will ever be a hegemony of money in thw world. The one who pays tell what to do. This is a main part of capitalism, sadly.
IMO they finance system with banks and exchange have to be tammed and controlled, there shouldn´t be bets on ressources, staate-fincaes or rising and falling stocks and so on. Making money only with money without any service/production should work.
But this become Offtopic, sorry.
ALso there was/is and will ever be a hegemony of money in thw world. The one who pays tell what to do. This is a main part of capitalism, sadly.
IMO they finance system with banks and exchange have to be tammed and controlled, there shouldn´t be bets on ressources, staate-fincaes or rising and falling stocks and so on. Making money only with money without any service/production should work.
But this become Offtopic, sorry.
karl_v_sudet
15 Dec 2011
easy come, easy go. I use voice comm 90% palytime, and i dont read chat, if i catch something on chat, its just some jab jabber in many languages. so i unlearned to read that chat. when i look at chat are only situations when some1 clicks on mini map... :-)
im just checking if theres some1 from my clan ;-)
im just checking if theres some1 from my clan ;-)
Rainhard
15 Dec 2011
there is no money? U.S. Army in Iraq 800 bilion $... stop offtopic... seriously... Consult buy a teddy bear... who?
Silentstalker
15 Dec 2011
PzGrenKdr, on 15 December 2011 - 09:24 PM, said:
So solution is fire Greece, later Portugal, Spain, Italy, Ireland and so out of EU/Euro-states(so only a EU of the strong states of northern/eastern Europe)? This or real United European Nations(UEN) with 1 goverment for foreign affairs, military, economy and finances and maybe some more. Administarion coulde be different for each member of the UEN.
ALso there was/is and will ever be a hegemony of money in thw world. The one who pays tell what to do. This is a main part of capitalism, sadly.
IMO they finance system with banks and exchange have to be tammed and controlled, there shouldn´t be bets on ressources, staate-fincaes or rising and falling stocks and so on. Making money only with money without any service/production should work.
But this become Offtopic, sorry.
ALso there was/is and will ever be a hegemony of money in thw world. The one who pays tell what to do. This is a main part of capitalism, sadly.
IMO they finance system with banks and exchange have to be tammed and controlled, there shouldn´t be bets on ressources, staate-fincaes or rising and falling stocks and so on. Making money only with money without any service/production should work.
But this become Offtopic, sorry.
Fire them - hell, disband the whole EU and return to the previous trade arrangements, that would be the best. I see no reason why to listen to some bureaucrat in Brussels, let alone a German.
If you think capitalism = hegemony, you are mistaken. We can all tell the other countries "screw you", that's the beauty of it. So - Germany can do whatever they want to, they can go bankrupt if it helps them - just don't push us Czechs into the same shit you are in because of your banks' stupidity. And that's about everything I can say to this topic, let's end it while it's still civil.
SilentFighterUS
15 Dec 2011
2PzGrenKdr and the others:
I´m Czech, but my grandparents from my mother´s side are Germans. So I´m something like from 75% Czech and 25% German. Some of my relatives living in Germany, for example my aunt live in Wiesbaden and they never had any problems with Czechs, despite the fact that they almost does not speak czech, only german. And I never had any problem with any German whatsoever. And my knowledge of German language is... well... pretty terrible.
I´m Czech, but my grandparents from my mother´s side are Germans. So I´m something like from 75% Czech and 25% German. Some of my relatives living in Germany, for example my aunt live in Wiesbaden and they never had any problems with Czechs, despite the fact that they almost does not speak czech, only german. And I never had any problem with any German whatsoever. And my knowledge of German language is... well... pretty terrible.
beastlysun
17 Dec 2011
1 part: international game = more than 1 language .... when you dont understand something, just ignore it .... yes it is so easy ... its not just CZ looking for CZ with lines like "niekto cz?" i saw many hungarian, geman, italian and even some dutch "looking for" ... maybe you should try trackamnia nations ... most of players are japan, german, italian and greek ... your "EN please" can be pretty useless in there
2. part: many cz and sk players have their national signature in nick .... something like "frantacz" or "svkdanosvk" (that one was from battlefield but who cares) so asking for they nation in chat is just wasting of time
3. part: there is no ingame personal chat and i dont see any reason why 2 czech players should talk to each other in english
2. part: many cz and sk players have their national signature in nick .... something like "frantacz" or "svkdanosvk" (that one was from battlefield but who cares) so asking for they nation in chat is just wasting of time
3. part: there is no ingame personal chat and i dont see any reason why 2 czech players should talk to each other in english
Idahou
17 Dec 2011
Hm, im czech but my nick is just Idahou, so i get it why somebody ask about nationality, i get it even some "hi" in all language, but every sentec, what most of teammates see like nonsence, is minus for team communication. Battle caht isnt some dating room on xchat. I want to see tactical information there, like "sector c3 - maus" or hang on, i will flank tham". Yes, its not just problem of national chat that we havent it, but it can be small part of problem... So, for every tolerant people - use english in battle chat and use it for your team win!
beastlysun
17 Dec 2011
Idahou, on 17 December 2011 - 09:23 AM, said:
Hm, im czech but my nick is just Idahou, so i get it why somebody ask about nationality, i get it even some "hi" in all language, but every sentec, what most of teammates see like nonsence, is minus for team communication. Battle caht isnt some dating room on xchat. I want to see tactical information there, like "sector c3 - maus" or hang on, i will flank tham". Yes, its not just problem of national chat that we havent it, but it can be small part of problem... So, for every tolerant people - use english in battle chat and use it for your team win!
i sayd "many" and not "all"
Arnhus
11 Jun 2012
cccTribun, on 15 December 2011 - 04:53 PM, said:
Extremists are everywhere ...
Racism is not only in Germany!
Look in your country ..
There are also abroad such "patriots" ...
The drive is just too far!
Many are non-German unfortunately think that all Germans areNazis ...
Since 1945 is now the second World war and the past are now 66years ...
I am of Jewish ancestry, my grandmother was Jewish.She had survived only by luck than!
The rest of my mother's family was deported and died in concentration camps or murdered by Nazi...
Racism is not only in Germany!
Look in your country ..
There are also abroad such "patriots" ...
The drive is just too far!
Many are non-German unfortunately think that all Germans areNazis ...
Since 1945 is now the second World war and the past are now 66years ...
I am of Jewish ancestry, my grandmother was Jewish.She had survived only by luck than!
The rest of my mother's family was deported and died in concentration camps or murdered by Nazi...
Sorry, but it's propaganda saying that Nazi Germany and Germany aren't the same countries...
What about II Reich and before - they are Germany. Different, right but it if I were you (I mean all Germans), I would shut up if you don't realise what 6 and more million people deaths mean for one country. Germans had forced people to use their language. People just hate it, i think it's normal. (If someone force you to speak polish or chinese now all the, in home you would hate it - believe)
To not being off-topic.
I don't mind someone's writing CZ, DE etc.
Edited by Arnhus, 11 June 2012 - 07:39 PM.
Barbarrossa
12 Jun 2012
Sorry, i have one question.
Why go into politics, Nazi and racism here?
The gentleman came up with the question, do not go to OT please.
A přiznám se, občas si napíšu do chatu Good luck, hodně štěstí - no co ?
Why go into politics, Nazi and racism here?
The gentleman came up with the question, do not go to OT please.
A přiznám se, občas si napíšu do chatu Good luck, hodně štěstí - no co ?


