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Procjon #1 Posted 21 December 2018 - 08:47 PM

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Hello,

 

I used to be against XVM but more and more i start catching myself on thinking "why i followed this bot? to die for nothing?".

 

The overall average of WR of players base is decreasing and really something like XVM should be implemented for good. I used to give a credit to anybody trying to fight on my side against enemies but more and more situations that i get ditched out by teammates are getting on my nerves.

 

Typical scenario when i advance an empty flank with let's say 2 tanks after they call for "HELP" and "ATTACK" only to find out that once they spot enemy they get affected by "BOT SYNDROME" and become useless allies. Almost always it is the same case after i check their stats after the battle, bottom feeders of WOT. I would rather to play with bots on my side as at least i know they will fight until they are dead but humans? :trollface:

 

I was against bots but now i'm can not wait for them.

 

HF

 

 

 

 

 



Homer_J #2 Posted 21 December 2018 - 08:50 PM

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View PostProcjon, on 21 December 2018 - 07:47 PM, said:

 after they call for "HELP" and "ATTACK" 

 

That's a sure sign they have no clue.

 

Help means come over here, you will get here just as I die and then you will die here too.



unhappy_bunny #3 Posted 21 December 2018 - 08:52 PM

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You need to ask yourself, Why did they go that way on their own? And why are they calling for help?

The you need to think "Would I normally go there?"

Then decide to follow or not. You dont need XVM for that, you just need to use the "brain" mod. 

 

 



XxKuzkina_MatxX #4 Posted 21 December 2018 - 08:56 PM

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Can't see what's the harm in using a legal mod to have some idea about what's going on with the enemy team or even yours. Whether to follow someone to a flank, rescue a fair maiden or just to curb your enthusiasm.

Procjon #5 Posted 21 December 2018 - 10:38 PM

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View Postunhappy_bunny, on 21 December 2018 - 07:52 PM, said:

You need to ask yourself, Why did they go that way on their own? And why are they calling for help?

The you need to think "Would I normally go there?"

Then decide to follow or not. You dont need XVM for that, you just need to use the "brain" mod. 

 

 

 

I know how to play safe but in such a mode it is not multiplayer style for me but more like a single player. I really like to engage with my team mates but it is impossible without platoon/clan, with people you "know".

 

Sometimes it looks like my allies know what they do - i mean they know the choke-points on the map, how to set the tank and etc - until the fight begins. Then in situations i talk about it is either bot style or running away and dying anyway while enemies shoot their backs which gives me WTF moments.

 

HF

 

 

 

 

 

 



Nishi_Kinuyo #6 Posted 21 December 2018 - 10:59 PM

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View PostProcjon, on 21 December 2018 - 08:47 PM, said:

Hello,

Hello.

You want to start using XVM?

Well, maybe you'll want to listen to this celebrity first:



Laatikkomafia #7 Posted 21 December 2018 - 11:01 PM

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How can the overall win rate of players decrease, if the amount of draws doesn't massively change?

XxKuzkina_MatxX #8 Posted 21 December 2018 - 11:14 PM

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View PostLaatikkomafia, on 22 December 2018 - 12:01 AM, said:

How can the overall win rate of players decrease, if the amount of draws doesn't massively change?

 

Rapid change in average tier played, rushing new and inexperienced players up to tiers 8, 9 and 10 for example.

kubawt112 #9 Posted 21 December 2018 - 11:18 PM

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You can't figure out a player just by looking at the three numbers and colours XVM provides, nor can you rely on an above-average player, nor can you (provided that you can't look at the minimap to figure out a strategy) know for sure that where he is going is where you should be going (though realistically the maps are so onedimensional that you probably can). Statpadlers, drunkards and blunicums gone play4fun - it's all true.

 

View PostLaatikkomafia, on 21 December 2018 - 11:01 PM, said:

How can the overall win rate of players decrease, if the amount of draws doesn't massively change?

 

Most likely because it's the average winrate of active players. If the good players leave, the active players left have a lower average winrate.

Not sure if it's correct, but I've seen the claim before, and it's hardly surprising. Might not be spelling WoT-doomsday yet, but it's not a great sign of health that decent players leave - though you can always argue that the better players have played more games than the bad ones, or something like that.


Edited by kubawt112, 21 December 2018 - 11:20 PM.


signal11th #10 Posted 22 December 2018 - 12:47 AM

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View PostXxKuzkina_MatxX, on 21 December 2018 - 07:56 PM, said:

Can't see what's the harm in using a legal mod to have some idea about what's going on with the enemy team or even yours. Whether to follow someone to a flank, rescue a fair maiden or just to curb your enthusiasm.

 

For me it's a blatant cheat mod and should be banned. Why should anyone in a battle know how good or bad I am.. it's no differnt to the mod that used to show where things were being broken in a battle, it gives you information you shouldn't have.


Edited by signal11th, 22 December 2018 - 12:49 AM.


XxKuzkina_MatxX #11 Posted 22 December 2018 - 12:58 AM

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View Postsignal11th, on 22 December 2018 - 01:47 AM, said:

 

For me it's a blatant cheat mod and should be banned. Why should anyone in a battle know how good or bad I am.. it's no differnt to the mod that used to show where things were being broken in a battle, it gives you information you shouldn't have.

 

Well, WG and a lot of other players seem to think otherwise so you do you i guess!

overcorpse #12 Posted 22 December 2018 - 01:43 AM

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View PostXxKuzkina_MatxX, on 22 December 2018 - 12:58 AM, said:

 

Well, WG and a lot of other players seem to think otherwise so you do you i guess!

 

That's why they are removing it then.Or what I inferred from the video. 

Edited by overcorpse, 22 December 2018 - 01:43 AM.


XxKuzkina_MatxX #13 Posted 22 December 2018 - 01:51 AM

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View Postovercorpse, on 22 December 2018 - 02:43 AM, said:

 

That's why they are removing it then.Or what I inferred from the video. 

 

Till they do then.

gpalsson #14 Posted 22 December 2018 - 01:55 AM

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stop using XVM, start treating all enemies and good players and all friends and unreliable players that will most likely shoot and hit if something is right in front of them, but doesn't have any situational awareness to figure out what is going to happen next.

rabitson #15 Posted 22 December 2018 - 12:51 PM

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An option should be introduced which allows players to decide whether their statistics can be seen publicly or not. Purple and blue will immediately hide ther stats because of arty-focusing, and reds because of insults and chat-bullying. And who uses the XVM automatically can not hide statistics. :honoring:

DuncaN_101 #16 Posted 22 December 2018 - 12:54 PM

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View Postgpalsson, on 22 December 2018 - 01:55 AM, said:

stop using XVM, start treating all enemies and good players and all friends and unreliable players that will most likely shoot and hit if something is right in front of them, but doesn't have any situational awareness to figure out what is going to happen next.

 

 

pretty much this ... expect your enemy's to all be unicums and your teammates too be beyond terrible



SlyMeerkat #17 Posted 22 December 2018 - 01:07 PM

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Why would you want to encourage cheating in an online game!?

Edited by SlyMeerkat, 22 December 2018 - 01:10 PM.


Bonzo_dog #18 Posted 22 December 2018 - 01:14 PM

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I don't see xvm as cheating but it's also pretty useless as it may indicate good players, but most of them are not, they spam premium ammo, red line camp, critise everyone on the team for being noob
Today I think xvm is useless doesn't indicate any player is good at all, indicates they have good stats, how they got the good stats is not explained, as above ignore xvm treat your team as unknown until the end of the battle

SlyMeerkat #19 Posted 22 December 2018 - 01:20 PM

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I fail to see how XVM is not a cheat due to the fact it lets you know who you can or cant take advantage of in game.

I prefer element of surprise in my games and play from general experience, not by letting some mod dictate how i play.

 

I go by MoE on tanks as a way of getting some idea of how good someone is, 2 and especially 3 marked tanks means they obviously get the damage out which is what helps to win games as well as strategic placing also people say they use it to keep track of their stats of which you have websites for that so thats an invalid reason IMO


Edited by SlyMeerkat, 22 December 2018 - 01:23 PM.


an0ther #20 Posted 22 December 2018 - 01:22 PM

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Xvm is not needed. 





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