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[grizly1973]

I found a few tank icons belonging to vehicles not (yet) implemented. While I know the names of most of them, I have no idea what the 2 French heavies in the bottom-left corner are and the 2 Soviet heavies that resemble a mix between the IS-6 and Object 252U (icons on the bottom-most row and left-most row).

 

Soviet Union:

Spoiler

 

Germany:

Spoiler

 

U.S.A.:

Spoiler

 

France:

Spoiler

 

 

And as a bonus here we have the Sacred Valley minimap. Sadly the map is nowhere to be seen.

Spoiler

 

 

I hope you like'em! If you want to find out abouth them, I'll let you have the fun of researching. I'm also curious if you guys know anything about the ones I have no idea about (listed above).

[Mike_Ba64]

Nice finding!

 

One of the German ones (bottom line, right) looks like a SdKfz 231 (?)

[SuedKAT]

Soviets from top to bottom and right to left:

T-103

Not sure, looks like an IS-4 apart from the cupolas

Hull is IS but turret looks like the IS-2

Object 777 Version II

Kirovets-1

Object 279

Object 268 Version V

Not sure

 

Germans from top to bottom and right to left:

Aufklärungspanzer V

Looks a bit like the G.W. Panther

VH 65.01 (H)

 

USA from top to bottom and right to left:

T26E3 Eagle 7 with clown camo

No idea

Looks similar to the T95E6 and the M48A2/T54E2/T123E6 but it ain't either one, looks like a mix of the turrets from those tanks and the hull of an T110E5

M4A3E8 Thunderbolt VII

 

France in no particular order since I'm not 100% sure which is which:

Those are the tanks from the Halloween special: https://worldoftanks...thans-invasion/

FCM F1

FCM2C

FCM2C Bis

Edited by SuedKAT, 26 December 2018 - 12:48 AM.

[Balc0ra]

The one at the top on the Russian page is the T-103. Was tested ages ago as a tier 8 TD, then suddenly went silent. The one on the far left is the 257 when it was tested as a tier X "same icon anyway". The one on the far right is the 777. The one we thought would replace the IS-4 a few months ago. Or to be the new tier X on the T-10 lane. But we got the 277 instead. The one in the middle of the 3 man group is the 279. Tho that test ended fast, then to the side of it is the Kirovets-1 and the premium 268 they tested by the looks of it.  There is also the tier 6 HT 244 at the top middle. That was leaked and tested over a year ago. Nothing heard from it since. No idea about the last image. 

 

On the Germans we have the leaked Grille 15 with a new turret from the same IS-4 turret leak. No idea what happened to that. Then we have the VK 65.01. Tested, then nothing has been heard since. And the last one is ofc the premium version of the awful panther. WG did talk about that not to long ago. Apparently its not far off. 

 

On the US the green painted one is the Thunderbolt. It's already out. One looks like the Eagle 7 US paint one console has. And no idea about the last two. 

 

French is ofc the HT's seen on last years Halloween event that WG did see as a failure "the test of the multi-turrets that is". And the other French super heavies tested ages ago. No idea what happened to those. 

 

 

 

 

Edited by Balc0ra, 26 December 2018 - 12:48 AM.

[DuncaN_101]

these have been there for ages ... WG just hasn't done anything with them for one reason or another.

 

you found nothing new rly

[NekoPuffer_PPP]

SuedKAT, on 26 December 2018 - 12:37 AM, said:

Looks a bit like the G.W. Panther

 

That was the icon that leaked when there was talk about a potential Grille 15 replacement, which turned out to be incorrect information and a mistake on WG's part.

 

Actually, I'm not sure what their plans are with that thing...I'm just hoping it's not premium artillery! ...but I'm sure it's not.

[_cro_magnon]

GWPanther thingy is Grille 15 with different turret model. Basically a direct fire GWPanther if you will.

[XxKuzkina_MatxX]

Sacred valley, please not again!

[NekoPuffer_PPP]

XxKuzkina_MatxX, on 26 December 2018 - 05:49 AM, said:

Sacred valley, please not again!

 

Am I the only one who liked that map? I liked Swamp for some reason too... I miss them.

[Strappster]

Regarding the US unknowns, wasn't there going to be a version of the T95/Chieftain for the US tree using the T95's gun or something? The image bottom right looks like the Chieftain/T95 image in the wiki (below), except for the gun mantlet and storage basket on the rear of the turret.

 

 

And there are further similarities with the T95E2 and T95E6 (left to right below, respectively).

 

     

[leggasiini]

OP, where did you find these, could you link the source?

 

Anyway, at first glance, there's nothing too interesting, as most of those are nothing new. The Grille 15 thing has been "leaked" a few times already (first the full model, then in-game render on the popup when you buy a vehicle during the test server of the reworked shop), it's probably a tested replacement for the Grille 15, but it's fate is unknown. The Object 279 (the real one) is there as well, but it was already stated that the model was made for...reasons. I'm pretty sure the Sherman in US tree is just Loza Sherman but in US tree...probably as a placeholder for testing purposes. Whatever it is, it's just a Sherman so it's nothing noteworthy. And finally, almost anything not mentioned is already found from in-game files.

 

 However, there are a few tanks that are very interesting:

 

USSR

The tank on the left is the IS-4, but it has no machine gun on the top and the model itself is different. This particular IS-4 was already "leaked" in the same test server as was the weird Grille 15, similarly through "vehicle bought" popup. However, the tank on the right is never seen before. This tank seems to be the Object 701, an IS-4 prototype with different turret (stock turret of the ST-I) and a 100mm gun. Looking closely, the turret and gun model matches, so this is definitely the Object 701. This makes me think that there's possibly more complex plans for rebalancing the IS-4 line than just "ST-I and IS-4 swap". My guess is that the Object 701 was meant to be the tier 8, IS-4 tier 9 and ST-I / ST-II tier 10. No idea what would happen to KV-4, either removed entirely, removed from tech tree but made into reward tank, or maybe there was going to be even another line with KV-4s all up to tier 10. Who knows. WG said that IS-4 is planned to be reworked so we are most likely gonna know more about this soonTM.

 

USA

 

Tank on the left is the T23 AT, a proposed anti-tank vehicle. It has the chassis of the T23 medium tank with 90mm AT gun. Funnily enough, T25 AT is based on this model. T23 AT is never seen before in any form or even hinted by WG in a long while. There are a few options what this could be. First one is obviously a replacement/remodel for the T25 AT. Second one is it being a premium, and finally, maybe they planned a more complex line rework for the T110E3 line. This being a tier 6 before the T25 AT would make sense, while Jackson would probably have been an alternative to the Hellcat with it connecting to the T25/2. Like said, it's very hard to tell what the T23 AT was actually meant to be. I think it was most likely meant to be a T25 AT replacement, but it was probably thought to be low-priority so that idea was scrapped.

 

The tank on the right seems to be T25 Pilot 1 with similar skin as the T26E5 Patriot. Not much else to say, really. They probably intended to use the Patriot skin on the Pilot, but probably decided to save that for the T26E5 that was likely being planned when the Pilot 1 was released (Pilot 1 marathon was in first half of 2016, Patriot was released later that year).

 

France

  

This is where things start to get really interesting.

 

The two tanks on the left are the FCM 2C and FCM F1. They may seem familiar and for a good reason - they were featured in Halloween gamemode in 2017, as Stein (FCM 2C) and Franken (FCM F1). These tanks also have been teased multiple times back in 2011-2012, first as tech tree tanks and then as premiums. I don't think non-skinned HD models have been seen before, though. However, it's not too surprising they modeled the actual tanks first before modelling the Halloween skins for them. With that and as we have seen them before multiple times anyway, they are not that special.

 

However, the two tanks on the right are something else. The tank on the left is FCM 1A, a predecessor of the FCM 2C, and the tank on the right is AMX Tracteur C (1939), a competing design of a super-heavy tank that eventually lost to the FCM F1. A good thing to note that just like with the T23 AT, neither of these models have been never ever seen before in any form. However, what makes them even more interesting is that back in 2016, when the 2nd French heavy line was planned (which is what we have had for some time now), there was actually some talk that this line was originally meant to be a full line from tier 2 to tier 10, not just minibranch like what we have now. The tier 2-7 would have been super-heavy tanks like these 4 tanks shown above. However, as the super-heavies ended up being problematic (basically, they were tested around when the O-I Exp and O-I were really problematic, and these tanks are pretty much like if Japanese heavies and TOG were fused together, so you can imagine how hard they would be to balance correctly), so they were scrapped and that's how we ended up having a minibranch just at higher tiers like we have now. With FCM 1A and Tracteur C having renders makes me think that FCM 2C and FCM F1 models were actually originally meant for the line, not for the Halloween mode. However, as WG scrapped the super-heavies, they probably ended up using the unused models in the Halloween mode.

 

I have no idea what's the fate of any of these 4 tanks. I would love to see them in the game, but who knows. Would not surprise me if they were scrapped altogether, or maybe they introduce a full line of them whenever they introduce the multiturret mechanism.

Edited by leggasiini, 26 December 2018 - 01:26 PM.

[Balc0ra]

Strappster, on 26 December 2018 - 11:37 AM, said:

Regarding the US unknowns, wasn't there going to be a version of the T95/Chieftain for the US tree using the T95's gun or something? The image bottom right looks like the Chieftain/T95 image in the wiki (below), except for the gun mantlet and storage basket on the rear of the turret.

 

 

And there are further similarities with the T95E2 and T95E6 (left to right below, respectively).

 

     

 

I thought T95 too, but I could not find any info on any new T95 US variant tested on any sites to name it or even know what it is.  

[grizly1973]

leggasiini, on 26 December 2018 - 02:18 PM, said:

OP, where did you find these, could you link the source?

 

Here it is: https://www.artstati...m/artwork/RmD9m

Found them on WG's 2D graphic designer's ArtStation profile. There's also some interesting medals I've never seen before in there, but given how many there are, I got lost and decided not to show them here. I hope the guy doesen't get fired now. 

[XxKuzkina_MatxX]

PervyPastryPuffer, on 26 December 2018 - 12:04 PM, said:

 

Am I the only one who liked that map? I liked Swamp for some reason too... I miss them.

 

Sacred valley was always a crapshow. Climbs, people rushing base at the start and trying to cap, even heavies in their little corridor were constantly bombarded by arty, small map with useless middle and no camo or view range value, etc.

 

Swamp IMO just needed some balance not removal as it was heavily biased towards the northern team with 55% global wins!

[Dava_117]

leggasiini, on 26 December 2018 - 01:18 PM, said:

OP, where did you find these, could you link the source?

 

Anyway, at first glance, there's nothing too interesting, as most of those are nothing new. The Grille 15 thing has been "leaked" a few times already (first the full model, then in-game render on the popup when you buy a vehicle during the test server of the reworked shop), it's probably a tested replacement for the Grille 15, but it's fate is unknown. The Object 279 (the real one) is there as well, but it was already stated that the model was made for...reasons. I'm pretty sure the Sherman in US tree is just Loza Sherman but in US tree...probably as a placeholder for testing purposes. Whatever it is, it's just a Sherman so it's nothing noteworthy. And finally, almost anything not mentioned is already found from in-game files.

 

 However, there are a few tanks that are very interesting:

 

USSR

The tank on the left is the IS-4, but it has no machine gun on the top and the model itself is different. This particular IS-4 was already "leaked" in the same test server as was the weird Grille 15, similarly through "vehicle bought" popup. However, the tank on the right is never seen before. This tank seems to be the Object 701, an IS-4 prototype with different turret (stock turret of the ST-I) and a 100mm gun. Looking closely, the turret and gun model matches, so this is definitely the Object 701. This makes me think that there's possibly more complex plans for rebalancing the IS-4 line than just "ST-I and IS-4 swap". My guess is that the Object 701 was meant to be the tier 8, IS-4 tier 9 and ST-I / ST-II tier 10. No idea what would happen to KV-4, either removed entirely, removed from tech tree but made into reward tank, or maybe there was going to be even another line with KV-4s all up to tier 10. Who knows. WG said that IS-4 is planned to be reworked so we are most likely gonna know more about this soonTM.

 

USA

 

Tank on the left is the T23 AT, a proposed anti-tank vehicle. It has the chassis of the T23 medium tank with 90mm AT gun. Funnily enough, T25 AT is based on this model. T23 AT is never seen before in any form or even hinted by WG in a long while. There are a few options what this could be. First one is obviously a replacement/remodel for the T25 AT. Second one is it being a premium, and finally, maybe they planned a more complex line rework for the T110E3 line. This being a tier 6 before the T25 AT would make sense, while Jackson would probably have been an alternative to the Hellcat with it connecting to the T25/2. Like said, it's very hard to tell what the T23 AT was actually meant to be. I think it was most likely meant to be a T25 AT replacement, but it was probably thought to be low-priority so that idea was scrapped.

 

The tank on the right seems to be T25 Pilot 1 with similar skin as the T26E5 Patriot. Not much else to say, really. They probably intended to use the Patriot skin on the Pilot, but probably decided to save that for the T26E5 that was likely being planned when the Pilot 1 was released (Pilot 1 marathon was in first half of 2016, Patriot was released later that year).

 

France

  

This is where things start to get really interesting.

 

The two tanks on the left are the FCM 2C and FCM F1. They may seem familiar and for a good reason - they were featured in Halloween gamemode in 2017, as Stein (FCM 2C) and Franken (FCM F1). These tanks also have been teased multiple times back in 2011-2012, first as tech tree tanks and then as premiums. I don't think non-skinned HD models have been seen before, though. However, it's not too surprising they modeled the actual tanks first before modelling the Halloween skins for them. With that and as we have seen them before multiple times anyway, they are not that special.

 

However, the two tanks on the right are something else. The tank on the left is FCM 1A, a predecessor of the FCM 2C, and the tank on the right is AMX Tracteur C (1939), a competing design of a super-heavy tank that eventually lost to the FCM F1. A good thing to note that just like with the T23 AT, neither of these models have been never ever seen before in any form. However, what makes them even more interesting is that back in 2016, when the 2nd French heavy line was planned (which is what we have had for some time now), there was actually some talk that this line was originally meant to be a full line from tier 2 to tier 10, not just minibranch like what we have now. The tier 2-7 would have been super-heavy tanks like these 4 tanks shown above. However, as the super-heavies ended up being problematic (basically, they were tested around when the O-I Exp and O-I were really problematic, and these tanks are pretty much like if Japanese heavies and TOG were fused together, so you can imagine how hard they would be to balance correctly), so they were scrapped and that's how we ended up having a minibranch just at higher tiers like we have now. With FCM 1A and Tracteur C having renders makes me think that FCM 2C and FCM F1 models were actually originally meant for the line, not for the Halloween mode. However, as WG scrapped the super-heavies, they probably ended up using the unused models in the Halloween mode.

 

I have no idea what's the fate of any of these 4 tanks. I would love to see them in the game, but who knows. Would not surprise me if they were scrapped altogether, or maybe they introduce a full line of them whenever they introduce the multiturret mechanism.

 

They better not touch the KV-4 or I will ask to Dingers for a general mobilization! 

 

I would prefere Obj 701 and ST-I as tier 9 followed by IS-4 and ST-2

[SuedKAT]

PervyPastryPuffer, on 26 December 2018 - 11:04 AM, said:

 

Am I the only one who liked that map? I liked Swamp for some reason too... I miss them.

 

Nope, I liked both as well

 

Strappster, on 26 December 2018 - 11:37 AM, said:

Regarding the US unknowns, wasn't there going to be a version of the T95/Chieftain for the US tree using the T95's gun or something? The image bottom right looks like the Chieftain/T95 image in the wiki (below), except for the gun mantlet and storage basket on the rear of the turret.

 

 

And there are further similarities with the T95E2 and T95E6 (left to right below, respectively).

 

     

 

https://tanks.gg/tank/t95e6

https://tanks.gg/tank/m48t54e2

 

But the guns ain't similar and neither have the basket on the back of the turret however the hull in the picture looks quite similar to the E5 hull I'd say.

[Jigabachi]

We had one thread listing every tank in the gamefiles, including detailed pictures. Just use the search-function.
Maybe we should even ask to get it pinned somewhere, we get these kinds of threads quite often.

[leggasiini]

Jigabachi, on 26 December 2018 - 04:49 PM, said:

We had one thread listing every tank in the gamefiles, including detailed pictures. Just use the search-function.
Maybe we should even ask to get it pinned somewhere, we get these kinds of threads quite often.

 

Some of the tanks listed here aren't even found from in-game files, though

[ValkyrionX_TV]

http://forum.worldof...enshots-inside/

[Balc0ra]

Balc0ra, on 26 December 2018 - 12:46 AM, said:

The one at the top on the Russian page is the T-103. Was tested ages ago as a tier 8 TD, then suddenly went silent

 

Well, speak of the devil... He just appeared on test again. And seems to be planned for a 2019 release. No eta. Vs the old stats the dpm and pen has gone down, but shell speed went up.