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Gixxer66 #21 Posted 31 December 2018 - 11:32 AM

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If having XVM gives you any more information / tools than are available in the vanilla client then it's an unfair advantage, never mind the toxic behavior it promotes based on stats in a pixel game....

 

I have no issues what so ever with XVM outside of the client, but in game that's a different thing altogether



Jumping_Turtle #22 Posted 31 December 2018 - 11:50 AM

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View PostGixxer66, on 31 December 2018 - 11:32 AM, said:

never mind the toxic behavior it promotes based on stats in a pixel game....

 

How many times do I have to explain that it is not xvm's fault but the players who can not cope with the information they get. Not all xvm users are toxic muppets,



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View PostJumping_Turtle, on 31 December 2018 - 10:50 AM, said:

 

How many times do I have to explain that it is not xvm's fault but the players who can not cope with the information they get. Not all xvm users are toxic muppets,

 

That's not really a thing to promote XVM though... so what some people aren't muppets with XVM, it's information you shouldn't have in game regardless if you;re a muppet or not.

SlyMeerkat #24 Posted 31 December 2018 - 12:07 PM

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XVM is a cheat and should be banned..... How they consider that thing "fair play" is beyond me and something that needs to go!

Edited by SlyMeerkat, 31 December 2018 - 12:08 PM.


Gixxer66 #25 Posted 31 December 2018 - 12:28 PM

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View PostJumping_Turtle, on 31 December 2018 - 10:50 AM, said:

 

How many times do I have to explain that it is not xvm's fault but the players who can not cope with the information they get. Not all xvm users are toxic muppets,

 

So why give toxic people an excuse to be toxic ?

m1x_angelico #26 Posted 31 December 2018 - 01:02 PM

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View PostGixxer66, on 31 December 2018 - 11:32 AM, said:

If having XVM gives you any more information / tools than are available in the vanilla client then it's an unfair advantage, never mind the toxic behavior it promotes based on stats in a pixel game....

 

I have no issues what so ever with XVM outside of the client, but in game that's a different thing altogether

 

Well TBH not all players share your opinion, including the WG...

 

Also saying XVM is toxic and should be banned, is like saying other tools like knives, cars, pistols, etc. are toxic and should be banned.


Edited by m1x_angelico, 31 December 2018 - 01:03 PM.


Jumping_Turtle #27 Posted 31 December 2018 - 01:08 PM

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View PostGixxer66, on 31 December 2018 - 12:28 PM, said:

 

So why give toxic people an excuse to be toxic ?

 

Toxic people do not need an excuse. They will be toxic with or without xvm.
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View Postsignal11th, on 31 December 2018 - 11:53 AM, said:

 

it's information you shouldn't have in game

 

That is a different discussion.

SlyMeerkat #28 Posted 31 December 2018 - 01:23 PM

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View Postm1x_angelico, on 31 December 2018 - 12:02 PM, said:

 

Well TBH not all players share your opinion, including the WG...

 

Also saying XVM is toxic and should be banned, is like saying other tools like knives, cars, pistols, etc. are toxic and should be banned.

 

Difference being one is a game and the other is real life..... This is a game and meant for fun but with a cheat such as XVM in it ruins that fun as there is no need for it

Edited by SlyMeerkat, 31 December 2018 - 01:25 PM.


Gixxer66 #29 Posted 31 December 2018 - 01:37 PM

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View Postm1x_angelico, on 31 December 2018 - 12:02 PM, said:

 

Well TBH not all players share your opinion, including the WG...

 

Also saying XVM is toxic and should be banned, is like saying other tools like knives, cars, pistols, etc. are toxic and should be banned.

 

XVM isn't toxic it's how people use, Arty focus, insults, suciding as soon as the battle starts based on some colours in your interface, giving up before the battle has started to name a few. Sitting on the redline selfishly farming damage rather than fighting over tactically important objectives because XVM said less than 50% Win chance.

 

None of that is good for game play. hopefully names and stats will be removed from the interface in 2019 as WG have suggested.

 

Having a knife, car, pistol is fine on it's own but use any of them as a weapon and you will find yourself on the wrong side of society and the law.



m1x_angelico #30 Posted 31 December 2018 - 01:56 PM

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View PostGixxer66, on 31 December 2018 - 01:37 PM, said:

 

XVM isn't toxic it's how people use, Arty focus, insults, suciding as soon as the battle starts based on some colours in your interface, giving up before the battle has started to name a few. Sitting on the redline selfishly farming damage rather than fighting over tactically important objectives because XVM said less than 50% Win chance.

Yes, I dont get that as well, but it is not XVM's fault ppl dont understand how XVM probability works and what goes into it. There is a correlation between XVM's very low win probability and chance to lose the game. But killing yourself right away because there is 34% win chance is close to imbecilic. Still, for some ppl who only care about wins, I get this is more important then trying their best.

 

None of that is good for game play. hopefully names and stats will be removed from the interface in 2019 as WG have suggested.

Holly crap, why names?

 

Having a knife, car, pistol is fine on it's own but use any of them as a weapon and you will find yourself on the wrong side of society and the law.

Well not to nitpick, but using them in defense is allowed. Still, we agree that's the bottom line. Ppl deciding to misuse XVM is not XVM's fault.

 


Edited by m1x_angelico, 31 December 2018 - 01:57 PM.


Jumping_Turtle #31 Posted 31 December 2018 - 02:49 PM

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View PostGixxer66, on 31 December 2018 - 01:37 PM, said:

 

because XVM said less than 50% Win chance.

 

XVM doesnt show winchances for about 18 months now.



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View PostJumping_Turtle, on 31 December 2018 - 01:49 PM, said:

 

XVM doesnt show winchances for about 18 months now.

 

Well, what you going to do when they finally stop stats shaming/colours/focusing in randoms?

 

Quit ?

 

 



Jumping_Turtle #33 Posted 31 December 2018 - 03:06 PM

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View PostCeeb, on 31 December 2018 - 02:57 PM, said:

 

Well, what you going to do when they finally stop stats shaming/colours/focusing in randoms?

 

Quit ?

 

 

 

Why should I quit ? I use xvm becasue I find it nice to see what other players I am facing.

I never suicide when seeing a bad team.

I never say at the start 'we lose'

I never judge or call another player on his stats.

I never get toxic because of XVM

I never yolo in because someone has purple stats

 

When all others stop being toxiv the game would be much more playable, but there are so many other things that could make that happen.

I just dont get tilted or upset when using xvm. its just how you deal with the info you get.



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View PostFenrirTheGray, on 30 December 2018 - 10:32 PM, said:

First time I've installed this mod, and spent ~30 minutes on setting it up...

My game looks like a Chinese market street.

What have I done...

I will have to carefully reinstall everything... This is too much  :(

All that is needed to complete your space ship gaming experience is a "cool" reticle like this! :trollface:



Jumping_Turtle #35 Posted 31 December 2018 - 03:07 PM

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My god, how can you play like this

Ceeb #36 Posted 31 December 2018 - 03:08 PM

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View PostJumping_Turtle, on 31 December 2018 - 02:06 PM, said:

 

Why should I quit ? I use xvm becasue I find it nice to see what other players I am facing.

I never suicide when seeing a bad team.

I never say at the start 'we lose'

I never judge or call another player on his stats.

I never get toxic because of XVM

I never yolo in because someone has purple stats

 

When all others stop being toxiv the game would be much more playable, but there are so many other things that could make that happen.

I just dont get tilted or upset when using xvm. its just how you deal with the info you get.

 

Well, they will block it so all this will be a cows opinion.

 

you also didnt answer my question,   Why isnt XVM used in CWs and Grand Battles?

 

 



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You put the files here:



m1x_angelico #38 Posted 31 December 2018 - 04:03 PM

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View PostJumping_Turtle, on 31 December 2018 - 02:49 PM, said:

 

XVM doesnt show winchances for about 18 months now.

 

Then what exactly is this in the top left corner?

 

Spoiler

 



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View Postm1x_angelico, on 31 December 2018 - 03:03 PM, said:

 

Then what exactly is this in the top left corner?

 

Spoiler

 

 

Wtf is the mod on the tanks? is that modules locations?  

 

 



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View PostCeeb, on 31 December 2018 - 04:05 PM, said:

 

Wtf is the mod on the tanks? is that modules locations?  

 

 

 

Yes... sub 50%ers need all the help they can get





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