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IIAtomicToastII #1 Posted 31 December 2018 - 03:42 PM

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I got my 60TP recently and the more I played with it the more I realised something wasn't right. Every time I went hull down I got penned, I had no clue how this happened because the holes were waaay under the turret. In my reticle the gun was just barely poking out of the rubble. After doing more digging I found this video that confirmed my problems and showed that the reticle camera was WAY below the actual gun. Watch this video and judge for yourself.

 

I have no clue how it hasn't been fixed/addressed already, let alone how it wasn't noticed during testing.

 

https://www.youtube....h?v=xdsu8WpJ8F8

 

Edit: As you'll see when you go further into the thread, it is not only the 60TP that's affected, turns out it's way more.


Edited by IIAtomicToastII, 01 January 2019 - 08:06 PM.


mondi20 #2 Posted 31 December 2018 - 03:48 PM

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Holy mother, that is such a huge bug.

OofBerry #3 Posted 31 December 2018 - 03:51 PM

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This is around on multiple tanks such as the maus. This needs to be fixed immediately in a micro-patch.

IIAtomicToastII #4 Posted 31 December 2018 - 03:54 PM

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View PostDatGuy135, on 31 December 2018 - 02:51 PM, said:

This is around on multiple tanks such as the maus. This needs to be fixed immediately in a micro-patch.

 

I used to play the Maus a lot last year, is it a new issue? Because I never noticed it

 

Edit: Took it for a spin... It's just as bad


Edited by IIAtomicToastII, 31 December 2018 - 03:59 PM.


ValkyrionX #5 Posted 31 December 2018 - 03:56 PM

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the 60tp is nothing exceptional

bad side armor, mediocre front armor with two huge weakspots
bad armor at the base of the turret that does not allow sidescraping
slow and moreover with a long reload time but a high dmg x shot and a decent gun depression

 

it's quite balanced in my opinion, it does not deserve a buff or a nerf

 

 

rather the whole Polish line should be improved
tanks designed exclusively to force players to convert free exp to get to higher levels and avoid playing ridiculous floats with ridiculous statistics that they introduced into this branch



IIAtomicToastII #6 Posted 31 December 2018 - 04:00 PM

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View PostValkyrionX, on 31 December 2018 - 02:56 PM, said:

the 60tp is nothing exceptional

bad side armor, mediocre front armor with two huge weakspots
bad armor at the base of the turret that does not allow sidescraping
slow and moreover with a long reload time but a high dmg x shot and a decent gun depression

 

it's quite balanced in my opinion, it does not deserve a buff or a nerf

 

 

rather the whole Polish line should be improved
tanks designed exclusively to force players to convert free exp to get to higher levels and avoid playing ridiculous floats with ridiculous statistics that they introduced into this branch

 

This post isn't about whether the tank is good or not... Read my post.

UrQuan #7 Posted 31 December 2018 - 04:00 PM

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View PostIIAtomicToastII, on 31 December 2018 - 03:54 PM, said:

 

I used to play the Maus a lot last year, is it a new issue? Because I never noticed it

 

It's an old issue with the Maus. The camera position is below the gun barrel & a bit too far back from the turretface. Mainly noticeable when trying to shoot hulldown tanks, switch between sniper view & third person & you'll notice that sometimes the hulldown tank can be shot in third person, but not in sniperview due to the snipercam being in a different position then the gun barrel location.

mondi20 #8 Posted 31 December 2018 - 04:02 PM

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View PostValkyrionX, on 31 December 2018 - 02:56 PM, said:

the 60tp is nothing exceptional

bad side armor, mediocre front armor with two huge weakspots
bad armor at the base of the turret that does not allow sidescraping
slow and moreover with a long reload time but a high dmg x shot and a decent gun depression

 

it's quite balanced in my opinion, it does not deserve a buff or a nerf

 

 

rather the whole Polish line should be improved
tanks designed exclusively to force players to convert free exp to get to higher levels and avoid playing ridiculous floats with ridiculous statistics that they introduced into this branch

 

What the hell are you on about. Just read the first post before starting to type. This is an actual game breaking bug.

IIAtomicToastII #9 Posted 31 December 2018 - 04:03 PM

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View PostUrQuan, on 31 December 2018 - 03:00 PM, said:

 

It's an old issue with the Maus. The camera position is below the gun barrel & a bit too far back from the turretface. Mainly noticeable when trying to shoot hulldown tanks, switch between sniper view & third person & you'll notice that sometimes the hulldown tank can be shot in third person, but not in sniperview due to the snipercam being in a different position then the gun barrel location.

 

Yeah... I just noticed, you saying it's an old issue is even more scary, how can they keep this unaddressed for so long???
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I have posted this in the bug reports section on the forum too, I'll leave a link in case anyone wants to do the same.

 

http://forum.worldof...0#entry16507909



Darth_Yoda #10 Posted 31 December 2018 - 04:14 PM

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View PostIIAtomicToastII, on 31 December 2018 - 02:42 PM, said:

I got my 60TP recently and the more I played with it the more I realised something wasn't right. Every time I went hull down I got penned, I had no clue how this happened because the holes were waaay under the turret. In my reticle the gun was just barely poking out of the rubble. After doing more digging I found this video that confirmed my problems and showed that the reticle camera was WAY below the actual gun. Watch this video and judge for yourself.

 

I have no clue how it hasn't been fixed/addressed already, let alone how it wasn't noticed during testing.

 

https://www.youtube....h?v=xdsu8WpJ8F8

 

Change name of thread to "Camera in sniper mode is broken", because this bug affect much more vehicles. Yesterday SirFoch show this bug with Pz.Kpfw. VII on stream. And its in game for months.

Edited by Darth_Yoda, 31 December 2018 - 04:16 PM.


IIAtomicToastII #11 Posted 31 December 2018 - 04:18 PM

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View PostDarth_Yoda, on 31 December 2018 - 03:14 PM, said:

 

Change name of thread to "Camera in sniper mode is broken", because this bug affect much more vehicles. Yesterday SirFoch show this bug with Pz.Kpfw. VII on stream. And its in game for months.

 

I would but I'm not sure if I can?

8126Jakobsson #12 Posted 31 December 2018 - 04:25 PM

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Didn't know this was an actual thing. Have several times been confused about getting penned in the hull while I was "clearly" hulldown (can't recall the specific tanks though). 

Fedeita89 #13 Posted 31 December 2018 - 04:49 PM

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i'm having same problem with ferdinand and t29, is it possible?

Qarina #14 Posted 31 December 2018 - 05:00 PM

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Yes, I have had the same problem. I wondered why, but apparently it is a bug

Darth_Yoda #15 Posted 31 December 2018 - 05:08 PM

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View PostFedeita89, on 31 December 2018 - 03:49 PM, said:

i'm having same problem with ferdinand and t29, is it possible?

 

Probably, imo this bug affect alll vehicles but its most visible on vehicles with turret in back.

evilchaosmonkey #16 Posted 31 December 2018 - 05:09 PM

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Ahhh this explains so much.  I have often wondered over the last few months what on earth has allowed me to be shot when I can barely see the enemy over a ridge line whilst playing an uber strong turreted tank.

Far more than the looping shots in the 3rd person.

 

Thank you OP. 



Sfinski #17 Posted 31 December 2018 - 05:10 PM

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Ok not playing this tank until this is fixed. This could be posted to Polish section too to get more outcry on the matter.

IIAtomicToastII #18 Posted 31 December 2018 - 05:11 PM

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View Postevilchaosmonkey, on 31 December 2018 - 04:09 PM, said:

Ahhh this explains so much.  I have often wondered over the last few months what on earth has allowed me to be shot when I can barely see the enemy over a ridge line whilst playing an uber strong turreted tank.

Far more than the looping shots in the 3rd person.

 

Thank you OP. 

 

I'm glad I realised it earlier. It was driving me insane.

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View PostSfinski, on 31 December 2018 - 04:10 PM, said:

Ok not playing this tank until this is fixed. This could be posted to Polish section too to get more outcry on the matter.

 

Will do, would also help if we got more people posting about it.

Dr_Oolen #19 Posted 31 December 2018 - 05:19 PM

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Oh, this would explain some surprising moments in plethora of different tanks... getting penned in lfp when you would swear at best half of your ufp can be visible...

 

So i guess this bug exists for many tanks, or for all tanks...



Scabolcz #20 Posted 31 December 2018 - 05:20 PM

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I just wonder on how many tanks this is a thing... Like, aren't things double checked before being put into game?

Did you create a ticket? I don't think posting it on the forums will receive any attention though

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